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Jaded Burnout posted:Pretty quickly realised that the cable for this one doesn't go upwards, but sideways.
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Is it standard for lights not to be installed in in-wall boxes in the uk?
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Slugworth posted:Is it standard for lights not to be installed in in-wall boxes in the uk? To my knowledge, yep. In-ceiling spotlights get a fire-protection thinger but all wall lights I've seen are hooked in direct with the cable hanging out. Also goodness me, 20 pages of this thread. Jaded Burnout fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Jan 21, 2019 |
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To be fair, they're mounting them in plaster over brick (largely fire resistant), as opposed to drywall over kindling, as is standard in the US.
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Quick one today since I had to take a quick evening shift at work. Put the skim filler on the two channels. Theoretically you're not supposed to overfill with this stuff but a) my knives weren't clean enough b) the wall wasn't smooth enough, and c) I bought this stuff over a year ago and it was half clogged inside. I'll go back over with a sharp chisel to remove the excess later.   Darchangel posted:To be fair, they're mounting them in plaster over brick (largely fire resistant), as opposed to drywall over kindling, as is standard in the US. It's certainly true in this case, though it is still plasterboard over brick on that wall. We do sometimes have stud walls, and I'm not sure whether boxes get used there.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Quick one today since I had to take a quick evening shift at work. You've made yourself extra work by using poo poo filler. Next time just chuck it out and go buy some fresh stuff from screwfix. You should have been able to fill that with hardly any finishing required.
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Tomarse posted:You've made yourself extra work by using poo poo filler. Next time just chuck it out and go buy some fresh stuff from screwfix. You should have been able to fill that with hardly any finishing required.  It's extra work but while I'm getting my putty legs back it's work I can control the finish of more accurately. I already planned to do it this way before I found out the filler was going off, which itself wasn't apparent until half way through. I've already ordered a new tube so we'll see how the next ones go.
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Jan 23, 2019 00:32
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Got my chisel nice and sharp and skimmed off the excess on the wall. The OAP filler protested a little so there's some pitting for me to go over when the fresh tube arrives.
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I'm going to have to accept that I'm just not good at filling in, even with fresh filler.
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Jaded Burnout posted:I'm going to have to accept that I'm just not good at filling in, even with fresh filler. what do your knives look like?
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schmug posted:what do your knives look like? One each of these, give or take https://www.diy.com/departments/diall-35mm-putty-knife/174725_BQ.prd https://www.diy.com/departments/diall-2-5-filling-knife/258876_BQ.prd
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Jaded Burnout posted:One each of these, give or take No, I meant currently. I can't stress enough how much a clean blade helps. You mentioned "my knives weren't clean enough" earlier is why I was asking.
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schmug posted:No, I meant currently. I can't stress enough how much a clean blade helps. You mentioned "my knives weren't clean enough" earlier is why I was asking. Oh right yah. I thoroughly cleaned them before and after today's session. Maybe I need to smooth them off a little? The main issue I get is that pulling them across the material starts to leave tracks if I don't push down hard, and eventually it gets overworked and starts setting, and pulling away from the wall. Jaded Burnout fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 24, 2019 |
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You need more practice is all. Kick a few more holes in your walls so you can get some more. You'll thank yourself in the long run.
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You need a little more practice to know better than to do any sort of mudding or plaster work on your own again. God I hate it so much.
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I've done all my own plastering, just the joints and screw heads or whatever you call it and it looks, I dunno, whatever passable. But I've also fitted wall up/down lighters and as soon as you turn them on it looks like time team's called in geo vis to a field in Kent that unexpectedly used to be an atlantean temple burial ground.
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The Dave posted:You need a little more practice to know better than to do any sort of mudding or plaster work on your own again. God I hate it so much. The Dave is a Wise Dave. gently caress plastering, by the time I'd get it acceptable it would be more than worth my time to pay a professional and buy a six pack of something to relax with.
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I’m not doing the plastering, I know better than that, this is just filling in, a “decorator’s job”. It’s exactly the sort of fiddly work that jacks quotes up sky high.
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Jaded Burnout posted:Oh right yah. I thoroughly cleaned them before and after today's session. Maybe I need to smooth them off a little? The main issue I get is that pulling them across the material starts to leave tracks if I don't push down hard, and eventually it gets overworked and starts setting, and pulling away from the wall. Sounds like you have it figured out. a.) Don't over work it. b.) Always go light and add another coat if needed because gently caress sanding. c.) The crap(plaster chunks) from the the spot your're plastering can get on your knife and cause those "tracks"; see: a.) d.) whenever possible: The Dave posted:You need a little more practice to know better than to do any sort of mudding or plaster work on your own again. God I hate it so much. Liquid Communism posted:The Dave is a Wise Dave. gently caress plastering, by the time I'd get it acceptable it would be more than worth my time to pay a professional and buy a six pack of something to relax with. All that said, place is really coming along. Just a
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Personally I just use sandpaper to smooth off bits I've filled in that end up a bit rough.
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Ebola Dog posted:Personally I just use sandpaper to smooth off bits I've filled in that end up a bit rough. lmao. look at this n00b
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The whole wall (and every wall) will be getting a once-over with a random orbital sander prior to painting, but yah I guess I just need more practice (and I'm gonna get it, I've got a whole house to do) and maybe keep a cloth on hand to wipe off the knife. Do you use water?
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Jaded Burnout posted:The whole wall (and every wall) will be getting a once-over with a random orbital sander prior to painting, but yah I guess I just need more practice (and I'm gonna get it, I've got a whole house to do) and maybe keep a cloth on hand to wipe off the knife. Do you use water? Most definitely use water and a rag to keep the knife clean as needed. Don't need to get carried away, just keep a bucket with some water nearby for when your knife starts getting gritty. I'd also look into wet sanding with a sponge instead of an orbital unless you have great dust collection. gently caress sanding.
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Cover that poo poo w wallpaper imo
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peanut posted:Cover that poo poo w wallpaper imo That is a very British option, and I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but regardless, you are dead to me.
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schmug posted:I'd also look into wet sanding with a sponge instead of an orbital unless you have great dust collection. gently caress sanding. I have a workshop dust collector for exactly this.
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As previously mentioned, the walls in my 50's house are hosed and I have done a LOT of fillering in my time here! Are you using the ready mixed plaster filler stuff here? If you want to make it much easier and leave a perfect finish then use that to fill the bulk of the hole, then use the nice easy DIY fine surface filler to go over the top of it. eg - https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-fine-surface-filler-white-600g/71551 If you have a big hole fill it with the plaster/skim filler first and leave that with any surface you like as long as its a couple of mm below the final surface height. Let it dry and then hit it with fine surface filler. Use your big flat ended scraper for the fine filler. Don't worry about getting it perfect and end up over working it - you can always sand it down or add a small second helping to fill and scratches. Go buy some rolls of the cheap aluminium oxide sandpaper - https://www.screwfix.com/p/aluminium-oxide-sanding-roll-unpunched-115mm-x-5m-120-grit/38512 I think I have 80, 120 and 240. Hit the fine surface filler with that wrapped round a block. Do a second helping if required. If you are having trouble with your filler pulling away from the edges of your hole then hit the hole it with a little bit of watered down PVA first Ebola Dog posted:Personally I just use sandpaper to smooth off bits I've filled in that end up a bit rough. Doesn't every non-professional doing any work trying to get a fall flat use sandpaper?
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schmug posted:That is a very British option, and I'm not sure if you're joking or not, but regardless, you are dead to me. Wallpaper (can be) cool and good 〜〜〜 some texture would cover those filly lumps easily. But don't diy wallpaper. It looks so frustrating.
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Tomarse posted:As previously mentioned, the walls in my 50's house are hosed and I have done a LOT of fillering in my time here! I'm using polyfilla 2mm fine filler
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peanut posted:Wallpaper (can be) cool and good 〜〜〜 some texture would cover those filly lumps easily. I've done DIY wallpaper, it's not hard, that included pattern matching and lumpy walls. I'm not voluntarily putting it on the nice flat walls in my new house though.
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There's a couple of rooms I might put wallpaper in; it's p much the best option if you want anything other than block colours and clean lines.
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or glow-in-the dark dinosaurs.
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Jaded Burnout posted:I’m not doing the plastering, I know better than that, this is just filling in, a “decorator’s job”. It’s exactly the sort of fiddly work that jacks quotes up sky high. Haha yep, decorating costs are directly proportional to how much of a ballache the job is. Woodwork, filling in etc. adds massively because it's such a poo poo job. Source: me getting done for a chunk of money largely based on how much of a pain in the rear end the work was rather than any technical difficulty (except for rebuilding some alcove shelves and cupboard because carpenters are expensive).
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peanut posted:or glow-in-the dark dinosaurs. Can I introduce you to the delayed delights of shopping on AliExpress?
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cakesmith handyman posted:Can I introduce you to the delayed delights of shopping on AliExpress? Might actually be quicker to japan
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You moved the house to Japan? Come on, we talked about scope creep...
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cakesmith handyman posted:You moved the house to Japan? Come on, we talked about scope creep... peanut is in japan the only thing japanese about my house is a kitchen with more knives than food heating devices
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Yes packages from China arrive quick here because it's close and post/customs is efficient.
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My house flipper neighbour has built up the fence that fell down under the previous owner's reign, which makes me happy. I have the "bad side" of the fence which is fine by me on account of: free fence. He's also built it slightly on his side of the existing fence line which was already just on his property, so now I have some concrete posts to remove and dispose of but in exchange he's effectively gifted me a small slice of land. Nice.
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More land to pile old clothes!!!
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