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Ugly In The Morning posted:Don’t use the extra damage air to air missiles on helicopters, they die in one shot with the regular missiles anyway and never evade any shot that has any chance of hitting them. Yeah but those missiles also can’t target ground targets so in a mission where you need your regular missiles for other things using the big missile on a helicopter is less of a waste.
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lordfrikk posted:The whole genre is literally lifted wholesale from a Japanese movie made in 2000 called... Battle Royale. I don’t see how any of these companies have a leg to stand on here. That's a pretty liberal use of the term "lifted wholesale". Yeah it was inspired by Battle Royale (the film) but in the end it only shares some broad thematic similarities. That's like saying Halo was lifted wholesale from Aliens. This part isn't directly in response to your post, but I think what really bugs me about Fortnite and Blackout (and I admit I enjoy Blackout), is that they didn't even really put their own spin on it (some would argue Fortnite's building, but it doesn't change that conceptually it's a total ripoff) . Warts and all, PUBG was pretty original if you take into account that the same guy was responsible for the original mod and H1Z1 BR, with PUBG being the final version of it. And I can respect that, even if the game is jank as hell. Although you can probably credit DAYZ with most of the philosophy behind BR in general. PUBG was sort of like a lighter, more palatable version of DAYZ with a few more rules. PUBG definitely owes a lot to a handful of things. With Fortnite and COD they just looked and said "hey thing is popular. Let's copy that". Like, everything about the rules in both games is stolen straight from PUBG. Flying over the map, parachuting in, the way the circle shrinks, airdrops full of loot, the approach to map design, the way looting works and gear works... The list goes on. What about any of those things is fundamental to Battle Royale as a concept? Nothing. The whole appeal of BR is pulling the reins off of multiplayer games and throwing a large amount of players on a big map, with all of the emergent gameplay possibilities that come with it. Beyond that core concept, the genre has endless opportunity for different creative approaches. But nope Epic and Treyarch just looked at a thing and went "that thing someone else made is making money. We have more resources than they do and I bet we could take that money for ourselves" and proceeded to make a photocopy of PUBG. It's the laziest, shittiest thing they could have possibly done. It's kind of like how I love the Souls games and genuinely like to see other games inspired by them, but games like Ashen and Salt and Sanctuary totally rub me the wrong way. Because instead of saying "I like Souls, let's draw inspiration from it". They just ripped off everything about it and the results feel like a knockoff brand. Although these games are the reverse, where it's big companies doing it to the little guy. Sorry for all the   I just wanted to explain why these games don't sit well with me. It's like a whole new level of artistic bankruptcy and Treyarch/Epic have received nothing but commercial and critical success from it and it's gross.
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Jan 25, 2019 01:39
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Fortnite’s building mechanic is absolutely a game defining characteristic and the main reason fortnite took off and PUBG didn’t. You really cannot overstate the importance or impact of the building mechanic on fortnite’s streamability and by extension success.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:28
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Isn't the title itself a reference to building forts? Maybe at night? I decided to give it a try last night while I was waiting for KH3 to become available. It froze up while trying to create an account. I read that that's apparently a common and un-addressed problem. So much for that.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:34
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I am extremely skeptical of the idea that Fortnite took off over others largely because of the building, instead of it being because of the aesthetic and dances and such.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:37
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Kibayasu posted:Yeah but those missiles also can’t target ground targets so in a mission where you need your regular missiles for other things using the big missile on a helicopter is less of a waste. You’d be better off with something like 4AAMs for that though, wouldn’t you? Can kill helicopters, clear the drone spam, and way more ammo.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:37
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Bust Rodd posted:Fortnite’s building mechanic is absolutely a game defining characteristic and the main reason fortnite took off and PUBG didn’t. Lol, how did PUBG not take off? it was the biggest game in the world for a year. I know what you are trying to say though, and I'm not claiming that The building stuff isn't integral to it's success. The building is a byproduct of the game that Fortnite originally was. The actual implementation of BR was a straight rip of PUBG. The building being transformative is circumstantial. Epic could have done anything with a Fortnight Battle Royale mode, but they chose to stick Fortnite into PUBG because they are completely uncreative.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:38
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veni veni veni posted:Lol, how did PUBG not take off? it was the biggest game in the world for a year. It cost money, had an older pc gamer following, had no style, botched its console launch, and sucked at developing a content pipeline
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Jan 25, 2019 02:41
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Bust Rodd posted:Fortnite’s building mechanic is absolutely a game defining characteristic and the main reason fortnite took off and PUBG didn’t. Anecdotal, but talking to kids I know of Fortnite age, none of their group engages much in the building. At least until creative mode came out.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:43
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Not an economist, but Fortnite being free might have something to do with its popularity over other games. Just spitballing
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Jan 25, 2019 02:44
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acksplode posted:Not an economist, but Fortnite being free might have something to do with its popularity over other games. Just spitballing
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Jan 25, 2019 02:48
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Fortnite is free, runs well (and runs on pretty much everything) and doesn't look like poo poo. PUBG is still huge and maybe now they're over their tantrum about being the second biggest Battle Royale and can enjoy the giant pile of money they have.
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homeless snail posted:Yeah sure but I don't think that's enough to account for how massive it is. There are lots of f2p games that are not Fortnite, like the phone version of PUBG Of course it being free isn't the sole reason it's popular, but it's exactly why it's massive. It is the accelerant without which there would be no great fire. Fortnite uses the same model as a lot of other non-gaming mass-market social software: give it away now, drive growth by making it available on every platform and getting people to socialize over it, and then monetize it afterward. Battle royale makes for great streaming, and Fortnite is the only battle royale game that you can watch your favorite streamer play and then immediately download it to whatever device you're using to watch streams for zero dollars. This especially explains why it's so popular with kids, who don't have a bunch of money to spend.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:52
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Hey y’all REmake2 is out in 3 hours. I won’t be buying it right away but I can’t wait to hear about it.
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Jan 25, 2019 02:55
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Real hurthling! posted:It cost money, had an older pc gamer following, had no style, botched its console launch, and sucked at developing a content pipeline I meant that it did take off. It was goddamn huge for all of 2017. But yeah they got beat in the end. probably mostly due to incompetence. The console ports are inexcusably bad.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:04
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Fortnite is free, runs well (and runs on pretty much everything) and doesn't look like poo poo. PUBG is still huge and maybe now they're over their tantrum about being the second biggest Battle Royale and can enjoy the giant pile of money they have. Yeah, Fortnite being able to get a stable framerate and cut down on hackers also helped.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:07
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The defining factor is that Fortnite has a real name
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Jan 25, 2019 03:08
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They just need to start calling it Poo Bug. Problem solved.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:11
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Whooooooooooo Somehow had like 90 seconds and 5 missiles left this time. Got a little more work done with the guns but still not much, just made sure to save 20+ missiles for the drones and head west earlier so I could hit that base before/after dealing with them, guess that was the difference.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:20
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I misread the thread title and thought Kingdom Hearts 3 had a sex scene.
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I said come in! posted:I misread the thread title and thought Kingdom Hearts 3 had a sex scene.
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Fortnite is free, runs well (and runs on pretty much everything) and doesn't look like poo poo. it looks like poo poo 
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Whooooooooooo The smoke will mark their graves! Thats poetic, mad dog!
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Jan 25, 2019 03:46
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Anyone else get an email from Playstation with a bunch of your gaming stats for 2018 in? Apparently overall I played 42 games for 937 hours, of which Bloodborne was 88 of them. Only a maximum of 4 hours in one sitting though. It even has a breakdown of hours played and trophies earned for each month. Pretty neat info. I wish we could see this kind of stuff on demand though.
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Jan 25, 2019 03:53
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:it looks like poo poo Please go into detail?
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Jan 25, 2019 03:54
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I’ll go for generic cartoony over generic military sim any day personally
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Jan 25, 2019 03:57
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I see the appeal but I don't care for the monkey cheese aesthetic.
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Kilometers Davis posted:Hey y’all REmake2 is out in 3 hours. I won’t be buying it right away but I can’t wait to hear about it. Same. I'm going to finish RE4 first
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Please go into detail? *endless parade of smirking dreamworks rejects in steampunk gear or whatever the gently caress* Fortnite does have the advantage over PUBG of having an identifiable visual style, but that style is butt.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:00
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I have no interest in Fortnite but the whole idea of disliking a game because it copies another game is extremely weird since its been happening since the beginning of game design. Not being able to copyright game mechanics is a good thing.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:00
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:Please go into detail? It looks like it was masticated, digested, and subsequently defecated into an available latrine.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:02
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I don't hate that it's cartoony but I hate the style they used. It's like, semi realistic characters and usual video game gun violence, then everything else looks like wacky rear end looney tunes poo poo. It's so hideous.Rad Valtar posted:I have no interest in Fortnite but the whole idea of disliking a game because it copies another game is extremely weird since its been happening since the beginning of game design. Not being able to copyright game mechanics is a good thing. I don't think you are wrong on the second 2 parts, and I'm not arguing that it should be legally protected or anything. But there is a certain level of plagiarism for profit that is just gross to me. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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Jan 25, 2019 04:02
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I love the aesthetic of Fortnite and wanted to get into it because of that but I don’t like the gameplay. It’s such a clean bright game when you’re playing it.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:03
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It's fun but my husband played a lot more than me. It kept me entertained for a good 2 weeks or so
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Jan 25, 2019 04:06
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:It looks like it was masticated, digested, and subsequently defecated into an available latrine. So no answer then.
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Spalec posted:Anyone else get an email from Playstation with a bunch of your gaming stats for 2018 in? I think I did back in December and it basically just told me I played a shitload of FF14 haha
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Rad Valtar posted:I have no interest in Fortnite but the whole idea of disliking a game because it copies another game is extremely weird since its been happening since the beginning of game design. Not being able to copyright game mechanics is a good thing. Remember when everyone called FPS’s Doom Clones?
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:So no answer then. This game is diarrhea coming out of my dick! This game is as appealing as a loving ooze-infested dirty loving sewer rat poo poo! I've had more fun playing with dog turds! It sucking fucks, it loving sucks, IT loving BLOWS, IT'S A PIECE OF poo poo... and I don't like it. I mean, what else could possibly need to be said beyond that? It covers every avenue of criticizing an aesthetic that you'd need.
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Jan 25, 2019 04:20
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I think it's fair to say Battlegrounds didn't get the glory stolen from them. They had success, recognition, streamer views even though the average round is fifteen minutes of nothing and then someone shoots you in the back... They had their shot. They botched their console launch, which ran so badly Bethesda would have been ashamed. They got outdone by Fortnite's lighter aesthetic and added elements to the game like building and more importantly dancing. Then they got outdone in their dry military shootmans image by Call Of Duty, who are already pretty much top of that particular kind of game. If they'd continued to do things to make the game interesting they might have kept it up, but they just let everyone else beat them with their own ideas. Which reminds me, there was a dumb parody Steam game I saw clips of called something like Totally Accurate Battle Simulator which was basically a dumb half-arsed silly PUBG, hell maybe even quarter-arsed, but their version of the shrinking ring was an actual physical wall that would slowly build itself over thirty seconds or so. If you were about to be shut out you'd have to find a shrinking gap in the wall before it closed. It was a neat twist, in a game that refused to consider taking itself seriously, and of course as we all know innovation only happens when people don't give a poo poo and just do something because it seems funny.
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Most people who say they don't like Fortnite have never actually played it and hate popular things.
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