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Chairman Mao
Apr 24, 2004

The Chinese Communist Party is the core of leadership of the whole Chinese people. Without this core, the cause of socialism cannot be victorious.

JUST MAKING CHILI posted:

Been weather boosted in the evenings here the last couple days, so lots of Groudon raids after work. Finally caught a shiny today... on my alt.

That's not as bad as it used to be, just grind out that 80k stardust and a month of friendship.

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BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

endlessmonotony posted:

I don't think you understand statistics. At all.

No, that sample size is well below where you'd expect to stop getting human experiences of unusual luck, especially given the player counts in Pokemon Go.

The spawn reshuffle also hosed up my local spawns badly enough where 250+ event mons during a community day isn't happening.

Also are you really willing to assume Niantic hasn't wildly hosed something up regarding shiny rates?

250 plus is enough of a sample size in something that occurs 1 in 20ish that your results will start to normalize. I understand that someone might, even with an excessive number of encounters, experience an abysmal streak of luck once in a while, but it just isn't something that occurs multiple times in a row. If you play the par of the course and still get only 1 or even no shinies several months in a row, you are doing something wrong, as much as it might not feel like it. There is a reason the "same people" always post about getting a bunch of shinies, and the same people post about not getting very many, and I have converted several people I know from group B to group A firsthand.

If it is as you say it is regarding spawns being lower, you should try to find a better place to play if possible. Figure out where the other players are going and follow them.

endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse

BabyRyoga posted:

250 plus is enough of a sample size in something that occurs 1 in 20ish that your results will start to normalize. I understand that someone might, even with an excessive number of encounters, experience an abysmal streak of luck once in a while, but it just isn't something that occurs multiple times in a row. If you play the par of the course and still get only 1 or even no shinies several months in a row, you are doing something wrong, as much as it might not feel like it. There is a reason the "same people" always post about getting a bunch of shinies, and the same people post about not getting very many, and I have converted several people I know from group B to group A firsthand.

If it is as you say it is regarding spawns being lower, you should try to find a better place to play if possible. Figure out where the other players are going and follow them.

Nah, complaining about on the internet is probably a pretty good indicator you're on the shittier side of random chance, and "just isn't something that occurs multiple times in a row" is trivially proven as false, you can even calculate the odds.

One in a million odds happen once every million instances on average and all.

That being said, the odds are bigger Niantic just has hosed something up. We know these things are both regional and time-based, and everyone in a region having lovely shiny luck just based on a coding fuckup wouldn't even make me wonder how Niantic hosed up, because they do, incessantly.

Also yeah the spawns being lovely is true for the nearest 100 miles in all directions. The more committed local players point out you can take a train for ~120 miles and find the nearest spot with spawns that let you grab 100+ event mon per community day... but I ain't paying for a train ticket for shiny pokemon.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




BabyRyoga posted:

If you play the par of the course and still get only 1 or even no shinies several months in a row, you are doing something wrong, as much as it might not feel like it.

Repeating the same demonstrably incorrect thing over and over again doesn't make you right.

I go where the event pokemon spawn in great numbers, some community days there are shinies, others there are none, and I'm not the only person in this thread who has posted about the same experience, let alone elsewhere. That's not me doing something wrong, that's something wrong with the game.

omnibobb
Dec 3, 2005
Title text'd
BiggaFigga! We are best friends tomorrow. You wanna arrange this?

Woodchip
Mar 28, 2010

omnibobb posted:

BiggaFigga! We are best friends tomorrow. You wanna arrange this?

I'm at 40, so whenever you want to go for it

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





I don't have the shiny feebas, but I do have a 93 iv regular that will be a cool evolved Pokemon. I think I'm actually off work for pig community day so that'll be cool.

Pez
Feb 28, 2002

Thanks to CoX, my stairs will be protected forever!

BabyRyoga posted:

250 plus is enough of a sample size in something that occurs 1 in 20ish that your results will start to normalize. I understand that someone might, even with an excessive number of encounters, experience an abysmal streak of luck once in a while, but it just isn't something that occurs multiple times in a row. If you play the par of the course and still get only 1 or even no shinies several months in a row, you are doing something wrong, as much as it might not feel like it. There is a reason the "same people" always post about getting a bunch of shinies, and the same people post about not getting very many, and I have converted several people I know from group B to group A firsthand.

If it is as you say it is regarding spawns being lower, you should try to find a better place to play if possible. Figure out where the other players are going and follow them.

that would be all well and good if it wasn't happening with the people that I am literally walking down the street with every community day. Some people consistently get 15 to 20 while others are lucky to get one in that three-hour window. We're in a small town so there's really only one good spot down our main street where there are about 5 pokestops and three gyms, so I could understand if everyone was getting low amounts compared to players in large towns but this is all happening locally

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!
DizzyBum, we're a day away from best friends. You can pop it whenever, just post in this thread when you do

SuperKlaus
Oct 20, 2005


Fun Shoe
Sorry that I'm probably repeating myself but this game really needs a "Raid Interest Alert" system where you can like shoot up a flare or ping the map to let people know you're at / intend to go to a gym with a raid. I've been doing some essentially random raids for Kyogres and it's kind of frustrating when I wait ten minutes hoping for other randoms, and then leave, and sometimes come back ten minutes later and stumble on 11 participants.

Yes I know there are Discord and FB groups coordinating actions but something in-game would be nice.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
Honestly my discord group seems to be good enough that whatever in game raid coordination system niantic half develops would just detract from the experience or significantly slow the game down. I certainly understand the need for an in game communication system but I really don’t trust niantic to do it without loving up raids via disconnections or lag for like 3 months. Why they still have in game notifications that you can’t turn off is still a mystery to me.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007




Hell yeah, finally hatched one. Still need Munchlax and Chingling, but I don't expect to ever hatch that baby bell.

Centzon Totochtin posted:

DizzyBum, we're a day away from best friends. You can pop it whenever, just post in this thread when you do

Are you PizzaLad69? I'm going to hold off a couple days since I've got another friend that's 3 days away from besties. I will definitely let you know, though. Thanks!

DizzyBum fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 25, 2019

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 12 days!
Yes and that's fine

LumpyGumby
Feb 22, 2012

"Here's the world famous hockey player sitting in the penalty box for slashing..."
-Snoopy Brown
42g - 65a - 107pts
106gp - 317PIMS
I've hatched give Munchlax, I would happily trade some for a chingling, mantyke, or shiny Eevee.

Robokomodo
Nov 11, 2009
What it needs is a “start raid now” button. I don’t need a 9 person squad to take down a 1-2 bowser monster. gently caress you Niantic.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
I caught 4 Kyogres and 2 Groudon today with zero flees. I should buy a lotto ticket!

Fritzler
Sep 5, 2007


DizzyBum posted:



Hell yeah, finally hatched one. Still need Munchlax and Chingling, but I don't expect to ever hatch that baby bell.


Are you PizzaLad69? I'm going to hold off a couple days since I've got another friend that's 3 days away from besties. I will definitely let you know, though. Thanks!
I hatched a munchlax/mantyke/chingling but Riolu still eludes me. I kept getting shinx from adventure week eggs when those were guaranteed shinx or riolu.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
I am at like 7 munchlaxs, 2 riolus, 1 ching, but 0 mantykes. The muchlaxes seem way more common than the others, possibly in part to people complaining about how they were specifically mentioned in the event description last month whereas the others were not mentioned by name.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


Robokomodo posted:

What it needs is a “start raid now” button. I don’t need a 9 person squad to take down a 1-2 bowser monster. gently caress you Niantic.

IMO there should be an option to start a raid immediately when creating a private group. Keep the public lobby as-is.

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

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DizzyBum posted:

IMO there should be an option to start a raid immediately when creating a private group. Keep the public lobby as-is.

That seems like a good compromise solution. Being able to start solo raids immediately would be very nice, and it'd curb some of the toxic behavior from the tryhards.

The last few times I was out doing Kyogre/Groudon raids there was a group standing off to the side whining that there were some low levels in the 20 person raid. It took 30 seconds to demolish the boss instead of 20, oh no.

Giving those sorts of people a "start raid now" button would get nasty real fast.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Some people.

So a new guy joined our discord and lamented he was lvl 21 and had no good mon to raid with. We have a raid train set on Sunday, so I told him hey, friend me, we can do three special trades today, tomorrow, and Sunday. I will give you two machamps, two venusaurs, and at least 1, maybe 2 Tyranitar. That'll get you started good for raids.

I ask where he lives, I live about two miles away, so I suggest we meet in the middle. Then he whines he doesn't have a car and has been walking everywhere. Keep in mind this is Phoenix, AZ, and the high is like 68? I offer a place closer to his house and he starts whining about not having his license yet. Okay, how the gently caress did he plan on going on the train without a loving car and no carpool?

Bitch I am offering you three decent mon, fully evolved, and you can't meet me loving a half mile from your house?

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Cowslips Warren posted:

Some people.

So a new guy joined our discord and lamented he was lvl 21 and had no good mon to raid with. We have a raid train set on Sunday, so I told him hey, friend me, we can do three special trades today, tomorrow, and Sunday. I will give you two machamps, two venusaurs, and at least 1, maybe 2 Tyranitar. That'll get you started good for raids.

I ask where he lives, I live about two miles away, so I suggest we meet in the middle. Then he whines he doesn't have a car and has been walking everywhere. Keep in mind this is Phoenix, AZ, and the high is like 68? I offer a place closer to his house and he starts whining about not having his license yet. Okay, how the gently caress did he plan on going on the train without a loving car and no carpool?

Bitch I am offering you three decent mon, fully evolved, and you can't meet me loving a half mile from your house?

that's really nice weather and i'd happily walk 2 miles for those mons. especially if it was back when i was level 21.

Beastyfella
Mar 5, 2008

I have lost all powers of reading comprehension and counting ability hours ago
What the gently caress? It's gorgeous right now in Arizona. Maybe he's one of those 500 lb people that can't walk? You tried to be nice, but that choosing beggar still isn't ok with a few minutes of walking.

It's stupid easy to level up. Make friends, join a raid train, wild catch stuff when you're level 25-30 and be able to contribute to get more balls.

Elysiume
Aug 13, 2009

Alone, she fights.
e: nm

Elysiume fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 26, 2019

Dragonstoned
Jan 15, 2006

MR. DOG WITH BEES IN HIS MOUTH AND WHEN HE BARKS HE SHOOTS BEES AT YOU
by Roger Hargreaves

Today I got my first ever 0%er (Seedot) as well as 2 shiny Psyducks and a shiny Kyogre :aaa:

The first Psyduck was snagged by the Gotcha and I lost my poo poo when I was checking what mons I had hoovered up. I had no idea it was live and thought it wouldn't be out till AFTER the Brazil safari zone ended.

The first one is low level with the usual bad stats (1/1/8) but that suits Psyduck well so whatever but the second is level 29 and is about 75iv which is pretty good for a wild shiny.

All in all it was good day :D

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

BGrifter posted:

That seems like a good compromise solution. Being able to start solo raids immediately would be very nice, and it'd curb some of the toxic behavior from the tryhards.

The last few times I was out doing Kyogre/Groudon raids there was a group standing off to the side whining that there were some low levels in the 20 person raid. It took 30 seconds to demolish the boss instead of 20, oh no.

Giving those sorts of people a "start raid now" button would get nasty real fast.

Ughhh. I have been telling people that they can't "spoil" a raid. As long as there are 2 other tryhards (or at least high-level-mon-havers), they can use pidgeys for all I care.

On pretty much every tier 5 raid 1 person makes all the difference, whatever the cutoff point between "hard but doable" and "piss easy" is.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
I got a Ghost Psyduck too, I love him :syoon: I saw a tonne more Psyducks on my way to work but #1 was the only shiny. Not complaining as I got three shiny Pinsir in a row on Shiny Pinsir Day (and two with 80%+ stats even).

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





I got a 0% shiny Totodile. I think that's how you beat the game.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
Finally got Articuno from the weekly research to complete the Gen 1 Pokedex on my kids' account! It's about time I got the one I wanted.

FreudianSlippers
Apr 12, 2010

Shooting and Fucking
are the same thing!

One of these things is not like the others

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
I love it when I have login issues with this game. Seems to happen once every month. I just changed my password, so it's not like I've been hacked again or anything this time.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




FreudianSlippers posted:

One of these things is not like the others


:psyduck:

Silver Falcon
Dec 5, 2005

Two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight and barbecue your own drumsticks!

Duckman2008 posted:

Based off my experience when Niantic , when they canceled my Ex raid they gave me 2 premium raid passes, so if that’s what I got, that’s what you get.


....so what did you name your Zapdos?

My Zapdos are High Voltage and Thunderstruk.

What? Don't look at me like that!


SuperKlaus posted:

Sorry that I'm probably repeating myself but this game really needs a "Raid Interest Alert" system where you can like shoot up a flare or ping the map to let people know you're at / intend to go to a gym with a raid. I've been doing some essentially random raids for Kyogres and it's kind of frustrating when I wait ten minutes hoping for other randoms, and then leave, and sometimes come back ten minutes later and stumble on 11 participants.

Yes I know there are Discord and FB groups coordinating actions but something in-game would be nice.

I would personally love this. I often forget, or am too lazy, to check the local Discord, and anyway I'm already out walking around. I don't want to have to type poo poo on my phone or whatever. I would rather just hit a button to say "Yo! I'm here! Come kill this thing with me!"

BGrifter
Mar 16, 2007

Winner of Something Awful PS5 thread's Posting Excellence Award June 2022

Congratulations!

Wheany posted:

Ughhh. I have been telling people that they can't "spoil" a raid. As long as there are 2 other tryhards (or at least high-level-mon-havers), they can use pidgeys for all I care.

On pretty much every tier 5 raid 1 person makes all the difference, whatever the cutoff point between "hard but doable" and "piss easy" is.

Yup! It’s beyond stupid when there’s a 20 person raid ready to annihilate the boss complaining that a couple low levels are participating. I wasn’t exaggerating saying it meant a 30 second raid instead of 20.

The tryhards around here seem particularly broke brained and antisocial. A few of them have a competition trying to gold badge every gym in the area and look down on anyone with less than 50+. They talk about driving an hour up into the mountains every day to fight over a particularly remote gym. They scream and get angry when they get a 5km egg at a Pokestop cause “2k and 10k have the only good shinies”.

Fortunately probably the best player in the region is this super chill old Japanese dude who plays with a clipboard covered in phones. He’s funny, nice and an all around good dude. Goes out of his way to make sure everyone in town has a chance to get their EX raids completed even though he can “solo” them.

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
PSA the game is broken. Monsters spawn at any speed now. Get in your vehicles, it is safari time.

FistEnergy
Nov 3, 2000

DAY CREW: WORKING HARD

Fun Shoe
:wow:

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




If only I could talk someone into driving me around to do that, because it's not worth the $394 fine for operating a phone while driving otherwise

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Have seen 2 nonshiny Psyduck so far. They spawning all weekend?

Also gently caress idiots who can't be bothered to open a gift! Not all, I know there is a limit, but a dude and I have been daily building to get to lvl 3 so I can get his shiny Murkow for a shiny Geodude, and then a few days ago he stopped opening gifts. Still playing, but we're to meet on the raid train tomorrow and won't be able to trade for another week because we only can meet on weekends and rear end in a top hat, despite saying he's playing in Discord, can't open a loving gift to move us along!

BabyRyoga
May 21, 2001

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

NTRabbit posted:

If only I could talk someone into driving me around to do that, because it's not worth the $394 fine for operating a phone while driving otherwise

It's like 2 bucks to get on a bus and sit around catching blue ducks for an hour while listening to your favorite conspiracy theory podcast in one ear and tribal throat metal in the other. Let the good times roll, mate.

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NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




BabyRyoga posted:

It's like 2 bucks to get on a bus and sit around catching blue ducks for an hour while listening to your favorite conspiracy theory podcast in one ear and tribal throat metal in the other. Let the good times roll, mate.

Tomorrow I'm going to be sitting in a hammock all day listening to the Triple J Hottest 100 countdown, and Monday public holiday I'm going to be at a mates place surrounded by small kids wishing I was back in my hammock, so I'll have to hope they haven't fixed it on Tuesday.

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