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Dpulex posted:How long is this game? I've heard it might take a few hours to get through. Do you mean Nexus? Over 100 hours if you do everything at a normal pace.
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RegalStar posted:Hero is one of the worst classes for doing disables with their really poor luck and lackluster strength. If you already have disables elsewhere they can piggyback off them fine with vampire and mind drain, but I wouldn't get them to actually do disables. Guard Slash is fine though. It's why I was considering War Magus with the high base rates on the bind slashes, then there'd still be a decent chance, and I'm fine with that. Clarste posted:I think it's also worth noting that Subclassing unlocks really late in Nexus, and it's a long game to begin with. Basically it takes more time to unlock subclassing than it normally takes to to beat an entire EO game. Rather than a midgame boost like it was in previous games with the system, it's more like a way to stretch the game out after you've already run out of things to put points in for your main class. Ah, that's too bad to hear, guess I've got to deal with overall lack of binds with this party, since I really like it. Well, maybe lack of leg binds, since Medic has Head Drop and Ronin has Arm Strike.
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man the blizzard king sucksssss I always try to bait out the mirror before committing to a big attack so I know it won't be coming out but he just seems to magically know when I finally decide to attack and busts it out on that turn also who thought the whole core thing was a good idea e: the whole minion-summoning theme for bosses in general really sucks, especially since the EOU2 story party is just about the worst party possible for dealing with that gimmick e2: looked up the pattern and it turns out the blizzard king only uses mirror after summoning a core(if it's not mid wail+breath combo, if it is it'll finish that instead then use it) and never at any other time, I was overthinking it oops Yinlock fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jan 25, 2019 |
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I'm maybe 10 hours into EOIV and never bought V. I'm a few minutes into Untold 1. Will Nexus be enough of a "definitive" game that I won't feel the need to spread out my playthrough across multiple games to get a large tasted of the series. I'm thinking of just getting that and focusing on it, and then go back to the older titles if I really need more shwampy pampys.
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Violently Car posted:Do you mean Nexus? Over 100 hours if you do everything at a normal pace. Jeez.
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chaosapiant posted:I'm maybe 10 hours into EOIV and never bought V. I'm a few minutes into Untold 1. Will Nexus be enough of a "definitive" game that I won't feel the need to spread out my playthrough across multiple games to get a large tasted of the series. I'm thinking of just getting that and focusing on it, and then go back to the older titles if I really need more shwampy pampys. I don't think Nexus is a "definitive" game in any sense, it's mostly just fanservice for people who literally can't have enough Etrian Odyssey and need it injected directly into their veins. Honestly not sure how it would feel to someone who isn't already a fan of the series.
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chaosapiant posted:I'm maybe 10 hours into EOIV and never bought V. I'm a few minutes into Untold 1. Will Nexus be enough of a "definitive" game that I won't feel the need to spread out my playthrough across multiple games to get a large tasted of the series. I'm thinking of just getting that and focusing on it, and then go back to the older titles if I really need more shwampy pampys. I doubt it. You should probably just try and stick with one of the games you already have or maybe you just don't like the series if you've given it two tries and not gotten into it.
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Do the classes in EON have anything like the Proficiency/Expertise/Enlightenment skills in EOIV? I was thinking of using a Nightseeker in EON until I realized I wasn't sure if they get their passive damage boost against enemies with ailments. Is that still in?
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TheOneAndOnlyT posted:Do the classes in EON have anything like the Proficiency/Expertise/Enlightenment skills in EOIV? I was thinking of using a Nightseeker in EON until I realized I wasn't sure if they get their passive damage boost against enemies with ailments. Is that still in? I believe the existing ones in EO4 got converted into multi-level regular skills. (And subsequently nerfed since you can get them before level 40.) They did change how Force skill scaling works. Instead of being a steady linear increase in power that scales off of your level, they have 3 tiers of power and get even more powerful at levels 20 and 40.
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dear developers who decided to tie amrtia IIs to a curse conditional why
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Is there a place that contains info about conditional drops, like from bosses in Nexus? Not willing to play a guessing game in conditional drops with my limited knowledge in JP.
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Someone here made like a spreadsheet that I had open when I played.
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Grashbar posted:Is there a place that contains info about conditional drops, like from bosses in Nexus? Not willing to play a guessing game in conditional drops with my limited knowledge in JP. Bar patrons tell you all about normal monster and FOE conditional drops, as usual. Someone will probably compile a list of boss conditionals soon after the game comes out anyways.
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Yinlock posted:dear developers who decided to tie amrtia IIs to a curse conditional Devs have to be evil to you some how. Need to spread more despair.
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I remembered and realized that Ninja has a leg bind move based on STR that goes well with my Ronin, so now I'm having them wield a VIT dagger offhand to access the leg bind move. And with that, I think most of my bases are covered. Hero subbed War Magus for +TP with swords, Vampire Ronin subbed Ninja for leg bind and cheaper moves, as well as higher evasion Harbinger subbed Farmer because I literally couldn't think of anything for Harbinger Medic subbed Princess to provide buffs Zodiac subbed Imperial for more elemental damage and TP recovery when hitting weaknesses I think this sounds like a... steady plan for when Nexus comes out in the west. Maybe not solid, but we'll see. Grashbar fucked around with this message at 13:15 on Jan 27, 2019 |
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Ugh, I hate gimmick bosses. Thanks to a fever and a nasty cough, I managed to gently caress up the 3rd Stratum boss fight in EO3 so bad, I only got a small pittance of experience and nearly wasted my formaldehyde on that last surviving part. The fight started so good, the boss immediately sniped two of my characters, one of them my healer.  But welp, enough logic sectors in my brain worked to get back up and defeat that thing. Now I guess I have to defeat him two more times, because every part counts as a separate being? Gimmick bosses. :spitontheground: Edit: At least this is the first Etrian Odyssey boss I managed to defeat in one go. But on the other hand, my average level was 35, so I was maybe a bit overlevelled. 
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ur-demon's floor is lame, mostly because of these foes that have no movement pattern and can see you from 100 miles away (for the record i'm probably not going to actually fight ur-demon, i'm just tooling around as i grind to 99)
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werbear posted:That entire DLC is extremely rude. i kind of admire that they charge you five bucks for the privilege of being told to go gently caress yourself
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Ur-Devil isn't thaaat much worse than Ur-Child if you know its pattern. It's mostly just much longer, and you need a party build that takes into account every single one of its attacks and gives you a way to either prevent or survive them, while also maintaining high damage output. ...well, okay, when I put it that way it sounds pretty bad
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I love how that fight has a phase that explicitly punishes you if your DPS is too high, despite all the other phases being a DPS check. And by love I mean, who thought this hellscape of a fight was a good idea!?
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If there was a shortcut to let you go to the harvesting room and skip all of the FOE bullshit, it'd be a much better DLC.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:If there was a shortcut to let you go to the harvesting room and skip all of the FOE bullshit, it'd be a much better DLC. yeah those items would actually be pretty useful if you could actually access them before you're level 95+ and can survive the hell gauntlet if I do end up doing ur-devil i'm cheesing the hell out of him because that fight is just real bad on every level Thuryl posted:Ur-Devil isn't thaaat much worse than Ur-Child if you know its pattern. It's mostly just much longer, and you need a party build that takes into account every single one of its attacks and gives you a way to either prevent or survive them, while also maintaining high damage output. yeah the main issue is that it's both much longer and just as punishing, so even if you're 40 minutes into the fight if you make a bad guess you're immediately dead e: i'm glad that helpful rare dinogator was there to make going up from 30-99 after training easy and fun also lol i could kill the dinogator at like level 60 and it could barely hurt me in return picnic is a joke now everyone has big stats and gold belts and dragonbanes, me like big numbers *gorilla noises* Yinlock fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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and there's ur-child dead  didn't even cheese this onewasn't nearly as bad as EOU's yggdrasil core, mostly because he actually spreads out his party wipe moves instead of using them every other turn also, blind food exists and is the greatest Dr. Fetus posted:I love how that fight has a phase that explicitly punishes you if your DPS is too high, despite all the other phases being a DPS check. And by love I mean, who thought this hellscape of a fight was a good idea!? tbf ur-child also has one of these Yinlock fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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I personally went for maximizing my HP and stats rather than relying on the blind food for the Ur-Devil fight, since my strategy going in was to minimize the number of random factors I had to take into account. Turns out Bertrand can (barely) tank even Howling Winds if you have him at full HP and set him up juuust right. Value of Solitude is also survivable even with a full party if you have everyone defend on the turn you know it's coming out. The blind food is definitely a viable option, though.
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Yinlock posted:and there's ur-child dead Good job. If you are going in release order EOV should be a breeze after that.
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werbear posted:Good job. If you are going in release order EOV should be a breeze after that. I just did Ur-Devil too, but I 5-turn cheesed the hell out of him with the peerless illusion chaser setup(replacing one survivalist with fafnir) I was originally playing with the idea of doing it legit but I saw drfetus' LP PSA about how horseshit that fight is and was like "lol no" I'm probably going to break from Etrian for a while since I just did U1 and U2 in a row, but i'll definitely be back to do the rest e: ty everyone for putting up with me constantly reviving this thread to vent/bounce ideas, it made the experience much more fun e2: oh yeah might as well do the writeup since i'm done with U2 now pros + Story is way better and the story party seems weird but ends up being fairly balanced and forces you to master a wide range of mechanics + Fafnir is a really fun exclusive class + Unique dungeon is way better than EOU's, mostly because Classic has access to it and Story always has to go through some unique challenge to progress through it + Changing map icons are helpful with determining where you've been and if you've used a shortcut or not, especially after dying + Joe Skilltext kicked his drinking habit and skills have stopped lying to you about what they do, though there's an error or two still there + Grimoire trading makes Grimoires in general 1000x better + The restaurant and it's ability to make blind not garbage is incredible cons - While the minion-summoning isn't a big deal during the main game, post-game bosses are largely absolute rear end because of it - A couple vital post-game tools are hidden behind dlc, and on-disc dlc is always bad no matter how hilarious the chicken fight was - promising me Fafnir Boat Adventures and being unable to deliver - endgame equipment is largely insanely expensive good game overall, way better than EOU and I enjoyed EOU Yinlock fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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I put down 5 a while back in the postgame stratum. Are there any interesting story or non-bullshit grind-free challenges in there?
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The entire stratum could be considered bullshit in a certain sense, as all 6th strata are, but you can actually see the entire story of it without even fighting the boss, so it's a grind-free experience that sheds some interesting light on where the game falls in the Etrian-verse. Although I believe the translation kind of downplayed the implications, iirc.
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Tired Moritz posted:are the portraits going to be free dlc? They were in Japan for...a week? A month? Some period of time after release.
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Farmers are one of two classes that can equip guns. That's about it. Er... they have some status ailment utility, but nothing really all that great in my experience.
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I've settled on being irresponsible and buying Nexus before I actually get around to finishing EOV, and I've shed my shame enough to ask if there are any potentially awful party combos I can manage to stumble into. I assume if I have someone solid on the front row, something capable of healing, and a decent way of inflicting Binds/Ailments, I should be alright?
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How big is EON digitally? I prefer physical shops but I dont think any of my shops have any supply coming.
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Clarste posted:a grind-free experience that sheds some interesting light on where the game falls in the Etrian-verse. Although I believe the translation kind of downplayed the implications, iirc.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:What does it say in JP? In JP it's revealed that the planet you're on is Mars, and the next destination of Arken is 'the blue planet', AKA Earth'
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Tired Moritz posted:How big is EON digitally? I prefer physical shops but I dont think any of my shops have any supply coming. Around 820 MB.
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