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Terror Sweat posted:So basically the mere threat of inconveniencing them caused them to cave, sounds like a win for labor They've been stewing before this about how they were getting politically ruined over this poo poo. Not like they were going to have a good explanation for why they were holding back the Democrat's bill when it was more popular than their's. The potential economic damage to themselves and their donors was just the straw that broke the camel's back. But this is absolutely why they hate unions.
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PT6A posted:I bet he wears a diaper for when he pisses and shits himself in the night. Oh, for sure. Also probably hugs a suspiciously stiff plushie of himself while he sobs
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Bugsy posted:Not as many as the roast of stone, but Molly is getting there. Ann Coulter is what happens when you spill a bottle of slimfast on a mogwai.
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Despera posted:So the truth is a reason to hate her? lol Capitalists are scum, yes
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Do we know when the CR's getting voted on? I was under the impression that it was literally just status-quo funding for 3 weeks, that shouldn't require much debate, no reason they can't just pass the thing today.
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I swear to loving god if a few people who share Trump's pathological inability to let anyone else take the spotlight drag this thread into yet another "Dems bad" "I hate centerists more than you" circlejerk on the day when Trump got completely clowned by a united Democratic congressional delegation...
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Terror Sweat posted:So basically the mere threat of inconveniencing them caused them to cave, sounds like a win for labor The airports shutting down would completely destroy the economy, and a month of it would make America unrecognizably wrecked
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In the context of US politics you have a long way to go before actual socialism is a winnable position rather than social democracy.
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Crow Jane posted:Oh, for sure. Also probably hugs a suspiciously stiff plushie of himself while he sobs Someone check the Disney Hall of Presidents.
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cant cook creole bream posted:I guess there's a lot of negative propaganda about her. Many people know pretty much nothing about the pre-Obama years. The main critiques of Pelosi were never that she was bad at her job. It's the opposite. When she wants to she can really push the ball forward on stuff, and the problem is that "when she wants to" is usually about some middling or bad thing instead of a really good thing that is also possible but she views as not centrist enough. As leftists, we are disappointed in her because her talent could be used for so much more, but she squanders it at the altars of centrism and neoliberalism.
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Retro42 posted:Is it bad I’m enjoying the mental image of Trump crying himself to sleep tonight, staining his pillow with orange spraytan-tinted tears. https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/760506740853051392?s=20
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Republicans posted:God drat it I can't believe I slept through Trump caving like a dog. You didn’t miss too much. A lot of waiting for the statements to happen with Stone drama in the background. Heard the beginning of his first statement on the radio and it was base pablum spun up as a dem capitulation.
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Crabtree posted:Right now we're at schrodinger's brain worm, he is both caving and stalling for a miracle until the day is over. USPOL Winter: Schrodinger's brain worm
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ErIog posted:The main critiques of Pelosi were never that she was bad at her job. It's the opposite. When she wants to she can really push the ball forward on stuff, and the problem is that "when she wants to" is usually about some middling or bad thing instead of a really good thing that is also possible but she views as not centrist enough. Pelosi is not a centrist. She's not a leftist, either
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ErIog posted:The main critiques of Pelosi were never that she was bad at her job. It's the opposite. When she wants to she can really push the ball forward on stuff, and the problem is that "when she wants to" is usually about some middling or bad thing instead of a really good thing that is also possible but she views as not centrist enough. Not her fault that Democratic voters are that way. Leadership is created by movements, not the other way around. You want to blame someone? Blame your fellow voting citizens.
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theflyingorc posted:Pelosi is not a centrist. The hero we deserve.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Do we know when the CR's getting voted on? I was under the impression that it was literally just status-quo funding for 3 weeks, that shouldn't require much debate, no reason they can't just pass the thing today. https://twitter.com/AliABCNews/status/1088881140805586944
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Payndz posted:Jesus, I'm away for a few hours and I come back to over 1800 new posts. I thought I was going to read that Mueller had kicked down the door and dragged Donnie Dipshit out of the Oval Office on live TV. He dragged himself out of the Oval Office on live TV and said "Hey? Remember what you thought the floor was on my approval ratings?" and stomped right through that floor, like Rumpelstiltskin.
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theflyingorc posted:The airports shutting down would completely destroy the economy, and a month of it would make America unrecognizably wrecked Yeah, imagine how much better the country would be if they used that power more often
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I SAID stop it, I'm trying to ease into feeling alive again world!
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Payndz posted:Jesus, I'm away for a few hours and I come back to over 1800 new posts. I thought I was going to read that Mueller had kicked down the door and dragged Donnie Dipshit out of the Oval Office on live TV. My man, it could have been 1800 posts about plastic straws or craft beers.
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Crow Jane posted:Oh, for sure. Also probably hugs a suspiciously stiff plushie of himself while he sobs no he hugs himself. And Ivananana
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So that’s de-facto veto proof right?
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Payndz posted:Jesus, I'm away for a few hours and I come back to over 1800 new posts. I thought I was going to read that Mueller had kicked down the door and dragged Donnie Dipshit out of the Oval Office on live TV. He waddled to a podium and whimpered about how that month of suffering meant nothing. Then, he came back, tears in his chubby cheeks and a fresh bruise on his lips, muttering about maybe there will be a state of emergency while Nancy audibly laughed in the background. That was Janurary 25th, 2019. Either he fucks the CR deal or doesn't.
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Gorelab posted:In the context of US politics you have a long way to go before actual socialism is a winnable position rather than social democracy. Have you seen any polls on the subject? MFA is wildly popular for one.
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I was still a bit confused, but she clarified: https://twitter.com/AliABCNews/status/1088882249511116800 So yes. They don't need a vote in order to pass it today.
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Followed the gently caress out of that dude. I think my biggest enjoyment in all this is that Pelosi has actually turned into the fire breathing demon that FOX has been painting her as for all these years.
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VideoGameVet posted:Have you seen any polls on the subject? MFA is wildly popular for one. Depends on how you frame it, but also MFA is a democratic socialist policy, not a socialist one
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Jealous Cow posted:So that’s de-facto veto proof right? Kinda sorta. They are unanimous with the implicit assumption that it will not be vetoed. Should Trump change his mind and bounce the bill back to them, there would be another vote to break the veto, and I would imagine that a few senators would change their mind.
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I was so busy today that I missed everything; not a bad feeling. Seems like nothing but good news right now. The government will be opened no strings/walls attached, for three weeks? Does this mean the Democrats won?
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haveblue posted:It's been Ok this is great Jealous Cow posted:So that’s de-facto veto proof right? Not really, just that nobody is motivated enough to stop it. If any one senator decides they could scuttle the process for a traditional vote, but that means there'd be a record of how they voted Crows Turn Off posted:I was so busy today that I missed everything; not a bad feeling. Well, Donny peepants definitely didn't win...
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I love how hard the right wing pundits are going with the "WEAK" and "CAVED" talk because they know it worked on him last time.
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nerox posted:I hope Trump pivots on the wall and wants a moat now. All this talk about caves got him thinkin' about holes
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Themagicalgoat posted:Not her fault that Democratic voters are that way. Leadership is created by movements, not the other way around. You want to blame someone? Blame your fellow voting citizens. This is a bad take because polling on a ton of basic left issues far outpaces Pelosi's willingness to do anything. She's an obstructionist and she has power because she's the best at wrangling campaign funding in our laughable campaign finance system where you can literally just bribe politicians.
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Crows Turn Off posted:I was so busy today that I missed everything; not a bad feeling. Unequivocally. Trump folded like a cheap suit. The only wrinkle is that its only 3 weeks but Trump has zero leverage now and it seems highly unlikely that Pelosi would hold firm on "no wall money" for a monthlong shutdown and then give up after this victory. They'll refuse to give him a wall, he'll cry about it, and the GOP will move past it because they can't do this again.
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