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Piggy Smalls posted:My diet is going to suffer this weekend. Heading to Vegas until Sunday and I have a tendency to over eat and drink too much when I’m there. Mine too would suffer in the buffet capital of the world. Godspeed.
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Shrimp is very low calorie. All you can eat shrimp and wear a trunchcoat for stuffin' so you have something to munch on at the nickel slots.
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Tip posted:I like to eat frozen mango. You can buy a huge bag of cubed frozen mango ready cheap, it won't go bad, and it doesn't get super hard, it's a satisfying chew. pickled mango bitch
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Jan 25, 2019 20:56
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https://www.foodnetwork.com/healthy/photos/foods-with-100-calories?ic1=spoutable Nice varied list to drive home that not all snacks are created equal. With lovely photography.
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Jan 25, 2019 22:57
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It is easier to eat more sensible portions when my coworkers forget to bring food and nothing is open. Sharing is caring and also weight loss.
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Jan 26, 2019 08:13
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Goons I’m in Vegas. Where can I go to eat sensibly?
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Jan 26, 2019 11:23
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Piggy Smalls posted:Goons I’m in Vegas. Where can I go to eat sensibly? dudeness posted:Shrimp is very low calorie. All you can eat shrimp and wear a trunchcoat for stuffin' so you have something to munch on at the nickel slots.
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Jan 26, 2019 11:51
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i dont understand eating windows. just count calories and eat when you get hungry. if you find youre hungry at parts of the day, spread it out
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Jan 26, 2019 12:15
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Relin posted:i dont understand eating windows. just count calories and eat when you get hungry. if you find youre hungry at parts of the day, spread it out CICO for life. http://justcico.com
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Jan 26, 2019 12:26
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It works for some people. If you tend to feel more satisfied with larger meals less often then it makes sense to fast in between to make up for it, when you are trying to stay at a calorie deficit. Edit I have never tried the alternate day thing, I'm thinking more of intermittent fasting where you basically can just skip breakfast and have a somewhat early dinner and fast in between. Dixville fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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Jan 26, 2019 12:46
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Scale says I lost a pound since Monday. I feel slightly lighter.
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Relin posted:i dont understand eating windows. just count calories and eat when you get hungry. if you find youre hungry at parts of the day, spread it out Well basically its another level to up you gains / losses. If you already cico/lowcarb why not do it within a certain timeframe? Heres a rundown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6KClPkotxM tl;dr: if you just eat whatever you eat within a shorter window you gain muscle for free! Trainers now hate you! edit: anecdotal evidence: i am down 3 kilos after 1 week of eating within a 9 hour window edit 2: coffee or tea is eating. Everything thats metabolizued counts as "eating". Yolomon Wayne fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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Jan 26, 2019 13:27
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Uh no you can have plain coffee or tea during fasting, that's fine. Don't add sugar or milk to it though.
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Jan 26, 2019 13:47
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Dixville posted:Uh no you can have plain coffee or tea during fasting, that's fine. Don't add sugar or milk to it though. She explicitly says that caffeine is a xenobiotic and tehrefor gets metabolzed and therefor breaks fasting
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Jan 26, 2019 14:06
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I don't know who that person is or what those pseudo scientific words mean but okay. Coffee and tea have negligible calories. I guess they could theoretically modulate your bodies metabolism so maybe you aren't utilizing your own fat/glycogen stores the same way you would without. Generally people who do intermittent fasting still get good results drinking diet drinks and other minimal calorie things during fasting but do what works for you!
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Jan 26, 2019 14:10
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Dixville posted:It works for some people. If you tend to feel more satisfied with larger meals less often then it makes sense to fast in between to make up for it, when you are trying to stay at a calorie deficit. I love intermittent fasting. It's really easy to stick with long term (I honestly felt lovely when I stopped doing it for a few weeks over the holidays) and feels like it makes CICO easier. I just always skip breakfast (you quickly get used to this) and eat a late lunch and a small dinner. I sometimes reverse that depending on how I feel. Pretty much always feel satisfied and going hungry in the morning makes you enjoy dinner/lunch a lot more. I add skim milk to my coffee in the morning so it isn't technically a fast.
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Dixville posted:I don't know who that person is or what those pseudo scientific words mean but okay. Coffee and tea have negligible calories. I guess they could theoretically modulate your bodies metabolism so maybe you aren't utilizing your own fat/glycogen stores the same way you would without. Generally people who do intermittent fasting still get good results drinking diet drinks and other minimal calorie things during fasting but do what works for you! so you dont understand those words but you know better than the scientist. ok.
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Jan 26, 2019 14:13
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Ok here's another scientist saying it's fine to drink plain coffee when you are intermittent fasting for weight loss. http://doctorakil.com/coffee-intermittent-fasting It mentions the potential anti aging benefits of IF may be interrupted by coffee. This thread is about weight loss so that is the perspective I was coming from. Edit, actually she's an MD not a PhD
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Oh and even better, there's a comment on that one linking this research that shows coffee may actually induce autophagy so it would be fine anyway, if this is true. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4111762/ There are a lot of people out there that are happy to convince you that they have this whole diet and exercise thing all figured out. They may use fancy sounding words and new theories to sell you on how Their Way Is The Right Way Period End Of Story but the fact is that a lot of these ideas aren't well researched. I honestly cant imagine intermittent fasting without anything but water, when I did it I had diet drinks with caffeine, or coffee. Doing it without the stimulant and appetite supressing effects of caffeine would be loving miserable for me. Again, do what works for you. Take new theories with a grain of salt. Edit salt also has negligible calories hope this helps (actually no calories it's just sodium and chloride) Dixville fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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Jan 26, 2019 14:31
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Yolomon Wayne posted:She explicitly says that caffeine is a xenobiotic and tehrefor gets metabolzed and therefor breaks fasting There seems to be a lot of back and forth on that, and about every other facet of 'windowed' eating. From what I have seen, there are people who have done fine losing weight and getting healthy with every variation of these diets. So find one that works for you and go with it. Don't be that guy who shits on people for having a cup of tea because you watched Joe Rogan for gently caress's sake. That being said, I still drink lots of caffeine on my off days. I just omit the sugar and cream. My wife drinks hers with about 70 calories of cream and sugar and just omits it from her 500 calories. My brother gave up coffee entirely. I am sure counting calories is a good thing, but it just seems really tedious to me, and I know I'd gently caress it up because I've hosed it up a million times already. If it works for people, that's awesome. I envy you. For me counting to 500 on one day and not giving a poo poo the next seems to be working so far. This cico thing is fun, though. The Dregs fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Jan 26, 2019 |
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The Dregs posted:There seems to be a lot of back and forth on that, and about every other facet of 'windowed' eating. From what I have seen, there are people who have done fine losing weight and getting healthy with every variation of these diets. So find one that works for you and go with it. Don't be that guy who shits on people for having a cup of tea because you watched Joe Rogan for gently caress's sake. Its not about joe fcking rogan, but a scientist on his show, thats a bit of a difference. its also about literally exactly said cup of coffee or not, and if a scientist says its not ok and some random goon says "its ok", im inclined to trust the scientist, but maybe thats just me.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Its not about joe fcking rogan, but a scientist on his show, thats a bit of a difference. Alright man. No one is gonna fight you for it. Keep on avoiding that coffee.
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Fasting is very effective for me. I drink plain coffee and water with some lite salt in the mornings with no regrets.
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In my experience I don't think actually counting calories is really necessary unless you have very specific goals like fit in that suit/dress by wedding day or get super shredded for summer vacation. I estimated once how much I should be eating and then what kind of stuff can fit in that budget. So e.g. I can have a decent chunk of meat with veggies or buckwheat/rice for lunch and a salad with like feta cheese and/or some protein for dinner and a cookie if I want to. And soo much tea. Then if I pig out for lunch or at a dinner party I reduce the next meal accordingly. There's still enough ambiguity about the science that worrying to optimize it based on the latest article seems like more trouble than it's worth.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Its not about joe fcking rogan, but a scientist on his show, thats a bit of a difference. Cool so I guess you're just gonna pretend the other posts didn't happen, nevermind feel free to keep digging that hole and only accepting The One True Diet Copyright Some Random Nutrition Scientist That Was Very Charismatic On Joe Rogan
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Intermittent fasting really simplifies counting calories for me because it basically means I don't have to, and I don't have to screw around with meal prep or worry that I'm snacking too much or anything else. I just have a leisurely time cooking something nice when I get home from work and that's it. I'm not sure I'd consider eating in an eight hour window or whatever the same thing though, isn't between 8am-6pm a pretty normal meal time schedule even for people who aren't paying attention to their intake? That's three meals and some snacks so you're right back to having to portion everything out for a calorie limit
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mobby_6kl posted:In my experience I don't think actually counting calories is really necessary unless you have very specific goals like fit in that suit/dress by wedding day or get super shredded for summer vacation. I estimated once how much I should be eating and then what kind of stuff can fit in that budget. So e.g. I can have a decent chunk of meat with veggies or buckwheat/rice for lunch and a salad with like feta cheese and/or some protein for dinner and a cookie if I want to. And soo much tea. Then if I pig out for lunch or at a dinner party I reduce the next meal accordingly. There's still enough ambiguity about the science that worrying to optimize it based on the latest article seems like more trouble than it's worth. This works if you already have a basic grounding in and understanding of the calories in foods. For me, as someone who just started a month ago to count calories, it amazes me how some foods that I used to snack on indiscriminately are hugely calorific. Now I've been counting 1500 a day for a month I have a much better understanding, and I don't strictly weigh out every ingredient when I cook because I have a decent idea of how many calories I have left and roughly how many are in the foods I'm preparing. But if I'd done that before I did start counting strictly, my estimates would have been waaaay off.
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How does IF work in conjunction with weight training? My understanding is that there's a cap on protein that can be metabolized by the body at one time, so an eating window seems hard to work around.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Its not about joe fcking rogan, but a scientist on his show, thats a bit of a difference. lol
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Fasting sounds bad. No one should go hungry 
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mobby_6kl posted:In my experience I don't think actually counting calories is really necessary unless you have very specific goals like fit in that suit/dress by wedding day or get super shredded for summer vacation. I estimated once how much I should be eating and then what kind of stuff can fit in that budget. So e.g. I can have a decent chunk of meat with veggies or buckwheat/rice for lunch and a salad with like feta cheese and/or some protein for dinner and a cookie if I want to. And soo much tea. Then if I pig out for lunch or at a dinner party I reduce the next meal accordingly. There's still enough ambiguity about the science that worrying to optimize it based on the latest article seems like more trouble than it's worth. if you have the specific goal of losing weight calorie counting really helps.
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I lost 140 (380-240)pounds in 2018 by getting on steroids because I had low t nd the weight just fell off at a pound or more per day for like six continuous months I didn't even go to the gym though now I run about 25 miles per week In conclusion steroids are awesome, ask your doctor to check yer t levels
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Charles Bukowski posted:Fasting sounds bad. No one should go hungry You're not going hungry, IT still means eating a generous amount of calories, available on a more regular basis and in more varied forms than anyone has ever had at any point in human history.
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Honestly, you can get very satisfied with delicious salad. Had a big one for dinner and I felt like I ate an entire McDonald's restaurant plus employees and the kitchen. Also you feel so  when doing that.
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I've had some pretty good experiences with IF in the past and without getting into any kind of physiological justification for it or lack thereof, it was pretty effective as a psychological lever to use against myself. I, and I suspect a decent amount of other fatties and people with other kinds of addictions, fall into a trap in which you're continually negotiating internally about what you are and are not okay to eat. IF is a clear way to draw an unambiguous line for yourself against which you can't otherwise argue when the badbrain kicks in
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:I've had some pretty good experiences with IF in the past and without getting into any kind of physiological justification for it or lack thereof, it was pretty effective as a psychological lever to use against myself. I, and I suspect a decent amount of other fatties and people with other kinds of addictions, fall into a trap in which you're continually negotiating internally about what you are and are not okay to eat. IF is a clear way to draw an unambiguous line for yourself against which you can't otherwise argue when the badbrain kicks in You just stated my feelings better than I could myself.
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TheIncredulousHulk posted:I've had some pretty good experiences with IF in the past and without getting into any kind of physiological justification for it or lack thereof, it was pretty effective as a psychological lever to use against myself. I, and I suspect a decent amount of other fatties and people with other kinds of addictions, fall into a trap in which you're continually negotiating internally about what you are and are not okay to eat. IF is a clear way to draw an unambiguous line for yourself against which you can't otherwise argue when the badbrain kicks in Right, a flat no is always easier than some kind of compromise that I would end up going back on later anyway. If I ate too many of my calories early in the day it never worked to tell myself I'd just have a garden salad for supper; I'd wind up eating a full meal then too. But for whatever reason it's so much easier the other way around, and now even if I'm getting a little hungry I have no trouble passing up the free donuts at work when I can promise myself a decadent feast when I get home. And I also find deciding on what I want to make and going over what I need and the budget and whatnot an enjoyable diversion for my fatty fat fatass brain that just loves food too much.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Well basically its another level to up you gains / losses. I never knew Newt from Aliens became a nutrutionist.
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Yolomon Wayne posted:Well basically its another level to up you gains / losses. this is dumb garbage, it's been proven over and over again that meal timing doesn't matter for weight loss and the benefit of IF is behavioral, not physiological
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Yolomon Wayne posted:so you dont understand those words but you know better than the scientist. lmao
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