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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


An insane mind posted:

That's a depressed lol from me, did that guy campaign on leave?

Leading conservative intellectual James Delingpole.

He is a big voice against man-made climate change, probably the biggest in the UK. Regularly pops up and says "well I'm not a scientist so you can't expect me to interpret the data but also listen to my opinions on how the science is wrong".

loving imbecile. Another fine product of the British independent, fee-paying schools and Oxbridge.

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Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Stop laughing at us!

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Avirosb posted:

Brexit means Brexit!

I really enjoyed when May gave this as an answer to some EU diplomat

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1088830343719907329

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS





Sounds like a ww2 tweet

Secure supply lines.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwbYjgL0qdA

this is worth a watch

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

Trying to imagine how inbred you have to be to think Trump is gonna give post-Brexit UK a "good deal."

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Trying to imagine how inbred you have to be to think Trump is gonna give post-Brexit UK a "good deal."

the people pushing that agenda are those who are in a position to profit from the potential privatisation of the NHS and other such joyous possibilities that may arise if the UK does a trade deal with the US.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Trying to imagine how inbred you have to be to think Trump is gonna give post-Brexit UK a "good deal."

Not inbred, iodine deficient.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/EMA_News/status/1088844259934064640

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

forkboy84 posted:

He is a big voice against man-made climate change, probably the biggest in the UK. Regularly pops up and says "well I'm not a scientist so you can't expect me to interpret the data but also listen to my opinions on how the science is wrong".

News media does this on purpose to undermine the credibility of the science by presenting it on an equal footing to these kinds of people because most of the news is owned and/or funded by corporate conglomerates that have profit interests in the fossil fuel industry.

:v:

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



WHY ARE THEY DOING THIS TO US???

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

haha nice try they'll be back

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


ten years ago we had the EU, medicines and agency

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

and now we have are soverinity guv

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NHyNTFYbU8

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014


No it isn't. It's the worst kind of bourgie "lets go condescend to poors from both sides of the debate" journalism. gently caress this vox populi poo poo. I don't give a flying gently caress about 84-year old Southend resident Mabel's opinion on how they should just get on with the Brexit she voted for.

Brexit is objectively bad. Policy experts and other people who have been balls deep in the EU and economics for most of their adult lives are screaming about how loving bad it is. But no, for the sake of balance here's some gaunt-faced English middle-class twunt who retired at 50 to spend weeks in the Algarve coming home now and again to check on how her guinea pig sanctuary business is going complaining about how she just doesn't understand why the government can't get on with it because Brexit is Brexit.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

hakimashou posted:

Not inbred, iodine deficient.

Is the UK known to have iodine deficiency or is this just your new thing?

I mean I'd love to solve the mystery to why this country is so poo poo but I doubt this is it.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

Regarde Aduck posted:

Is the UK known to have iodine deficiency or is this just your new thing?

I mean I'd love to solve the mystery to why this country is so poo poo but I doubt this is it.

Centuries of imperialism waged by England's failsons came back to bite you in the rear end when there wasn't an Africa or Asia you could send them off to and ruin other peoples' lives.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

I heard the news today, oy vey....

Actually yesterday brexit on CBC radio made me howl with laughter

The Queen said "you guys need to politic" or something. CBC cut to your Chancellor of the Exchequer, where he was all "Yes, the queen is right, we have to negotiate, we have to compromise, and when I say we I mean them because Britain is leaving the EU"

If I were the Queen, I think I'd hire Ian McShane and I'd whisper in his ear and have him thunder at Parliament, inform the government that they are fired, announce brexit stopped until somebody can actually come up with a plan that won't result in GDP shrinkage, and throw May into the tower, to show that there are worse things that can happen than damage to your political career

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009




Lmao the dude @5mins but at least he changed his mind. Changing your mind is like cheat codes for real life imo

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Regarde Aduck posted:

Is the UK known to have iodine deficiency or is this just your new thing?

I mean I'd love to solve the mystery to why this country is so poo poo but I doubt this is it.

I've become convinced that it is the solution to that mystery.

The UK has endemic iodine deficiency. It is one of the 10 most iodine deficient countries in the world according to the Lancet. Britain managed to eliminate serious iodine deficiency by getting iodine into milk, so there isnt goiter or serious developmental disability, but nobody seemed to bother checking whether or not it was really enough iodine until recently. It wasn't.

Iodizing table salt and the salt used to process foods eliminates iodine deficiency completely, and is easy and inexpensive. It has been done in a lot of the developing world because it's a public health issue you can pretty easily solve, but the UK and some european countries never bothered doing it themselves.

It's not that it's made all british people stupid, almost half of British people aren't iodine deficient, and even among the majority that is, it's unlikely it has done really serious damage to them. But even a relatively small diminishment in mental capacity, across a large enough part of the population, can mean this public health problem is plausibly responsible for real public policy problems. Especially when an enormously consequential referendum is decided by a narrow margin.



https://www.bbc.com/news/health-13034582
http://www.btf-thyroid.org/professionals/research-news/192-uk-is-iodine-deficient
https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/landia/PIIS2213-8587(16)30055-9.pdf
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23570907

hakimashou has issued a correction as of 04:41 on Jan 26, 2019

Tewdrig
Dec 6, 2005

It's good to be the king.

Nebakenezzer posted:

I heard the news today, oy vey....

Actually yesterday brexit on CBC radio made me howl with laughter

The Queen said "you guys need to politic" or something. CBC cut to your Chancellor of the Exchequer, where he was all "Yes, the queen is right, we have to negotiate, we have to compromise, and when I say we I mean them because Britain is leaving the EU"

If I were the Queen, I think I'd hire Ian McShane and I'd whisper in his ear and have him thunder at Parliament, inform the government that they are fired, announce brexit stopped until somebody can actually come up with a plan that won't result in GDP shrinkage, and throw May into the tower, to show that there are worse things that can happen than damage to your political career

Pages spent arguing about monarchy, but everyone forgot that through a constitutional loophole only the queen can use the magic mace in the Commons to beat the PM to death for ruining the country just to remain in power.

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Nebakenezzer posted:

I heard the news today, oy vey....

Actually yesterday brexit on CBC radio made me howl with laughter

The Queen said "you guys need to politic" or something. CBC cut to your Chancellor of the Exchequer, where he was all "Yes, the queen is right, we have to negotiate, we have to compromise, and when I say we I mean them because Britain is leaving the EU"

If I were the Queen, I think I'd hire Ian McShane and I'd whisper in his ear and have him thunder at Parliament, inform the government that they are fired, announce brexit stopped until somebody can actually come up with a plan that won't result in GDP shrinkage, and throw May into the tower, to show that there are worse things that can happen than damage to your political career

"But the monarch is ceremonial!" I protest as I'm reminded that powers that aren't exercised don't suddenly stop existing.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/apoci_yn_gymru/status/1087854844818452481?s=19

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

lol these sort of stories are so loving ominous
It's like watching the tide get pulled way out right before the tsunami arrives.

Baloogan
Dec 5, 2004
Fun Shoe
Big Iodine is here to put chemicals in the water that make the populace docile! Don't fear mandatory medication put into your food! I'm sure the experts have their your best interests at heart.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

Has Hakimashou checked his own iodine levels lately?

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

https://twitter.com/dylanhm/status/1088459998672281606

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
brexit britain smh

https://twitter.com/HotGamerSex/status/1087806169844994049

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1089089590936379393

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 16 days!)

*Jacob Rees-Mogg taking his mouth off his nanny's titty* "not many snowflakes."

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011


Lol, don't leave, it's just a prank. These guys are gonna look like idiots once they have to unpack everything again after the A50 revocation. Can't take a joke and blame everyone else

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1089075718619836416

lol may is just doing dumb theater now to take the stink off. going to take this deal to the EU, which will of course reject it, but it at least allows the tories to blame the EU for no deal.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
tahts assuming she can even pass it in the first place

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

Jose posted:

tahts assuming she can even pass it in the first place

guess it depends on whether tory remainers are willing to accede to an attempt to cushion the political impact of no deal, i assume that killing the backstop gets her the DUP. i guess the alternative explanation is that may plans to take the backstopless plan to brussels, get told to go to hell, and then come back with proof that the backstop is non-negotiable and that she really did try her best, guys. or of course the strong possibility that may has absolutely no plan and is just kind of flailing in the wind

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
She is fully behind no deal being better than remain if it comes to that despite the damage it will cause

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
Just so I don’t misunderstand this, removing the backstop means North Ireland gets a hard border on day 1 of Brexit, right? Unless a border deal is figured out before then, which, lol, it’d still be May in charge of negotiating.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

https://twitter.com/DPRK_News/status/1089120842842341376

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Just so I don’t misunderstand this, removing the backstop means North Ireland gets a hard border on day 1 of Brexit, right? Unless a border deal is figured out before then, which, lol, it’d still be May in charge of negotiating.

depends on what you consider to be day 1 of brexit but yes, if there is no deal in place by the end of the transitional period, and there is no backstop in the withdrawal agreement, northern ireland will be just as cut off from the EU as everywhere else which means the border will be rock-hard. it's pretty much unthinkable that there would be no deal by then, but even if there were a deal there would potentially be customs checks etc. on par with what you see at the US-mexico border for example

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Zulily Zoetrope posted:

Just so I don’t misunderstand this, removing the backstop means North Ireland gets a hard border on day 1 of Brexit, right? Unless a border deal is figured out before then, which, lol, it’d still be May in charge of negotiating.

The backstop is part of the deal because there can't be a hard border between NI/Ireland due to the good friday deal and May refuses to allow a full customs union with the UK that stops it being an issue. This is because her 2 main things with brexit are stopping freedom of movement and being able to negotiate our own trade deals. The backstop is the interim measure to stop a hard border until a free trade agreement has been agreed with the EU at which point it would stop being necessary

The hard brexiters don't want the backstop because they want a free trade deal with the US that'll become impossible if we get one with the EU because we'll end up on their regulatory alignments. The DUP just don't want NI being different ot the rest of the UK

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