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BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
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ATTAAAACK


disrupting payday loans by making payday loans, but exactly the same

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post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

BMan posted:

disrupting payday loans by making payday loans, but exactly the same

they are ~*digital*~ tho

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

it's not predatory, we're just marketing our service to people who have no choice but to accept our ridiculous terms

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I honestly can’t think of many worse financial ideas than taking out a high interest loan for a recurring expense. maybe buying options on margin?

this thing is somebody going “what if we got people who actually *have* money onto this treadmill?”

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

my bitter bi rival posted:

“It’s too easy to look to the interest rates, which are enormously high, and say people are being ripped off,” Berk said. But the data shows “people tend to use it in cases of emergency. So if they don’t use it, things can spiral out of control.”

i love the marketing logic here.

"data shows people use it in emergencies" -> "therefore if it didn't exist in its current form things would be a lot worse somehow" -> "therefore you're not being ripped off"

MononcQc
May 29, 2007

high interest loans on bitcoin is probably worse

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

Shame Boy posted:

i love the marketing logic here.

"data shows people use it in emergencies" -> "therefore if it didn't exist in its current form things would be a lot worse somehow" -> "therefore you're not being ripped off"

see things spiral out of control when people can't make ends meet because then they have to take out predatory loans to pay bills and the high interest rates on those loans just make it even harder to pay their bills the next time and......oh poo poo forget I said anything

actually credit and usury are the most compassionate thing man has ever invented!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
see also: overdraft protection

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
especially since some banks use a credit line for that rather than like a savings account -- you see they're giving you the gift of avoiding an embarrassing situation by charging you interest on something that may be entirely opaque to you is even happening

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

usury as a service

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
look the only way we can let poor people have cars is if we charge them $8000 for a $1200 car that will be undrivable in a year, thats the only way this can work

would you rather they just didn't have a car? we've actually improved their life!

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

i'm the black republican

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
i mean that is a surprisingly diverse twitter company photo -- a very progressive and diverse usury company

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

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ATTAAAACK


Shame Boy posted:

i love the marketing logic here.

"data shows people use it in emergencies" -> "therefore if it didn't exist in its current form things would be a lot worse somehow" -> "therefore you're not being ripped off"

Data shows poor people play the lottery more than wealthy people. Therefore the lottery must be helping poor people,

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/status/1090333948419420161?s=20

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
https://twitter.com/raehanbobby/status/1090333008207536128

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
great, now i've got to activate those too.

loving drm

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

KNIIIIIIFE
EEEEEYYYYE
ATTAAAACK


activate your values by soaking them in water for 24 hours

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011


those are all made up names attached to nvidia deep cgi photos. Im Sunny Venmo. This is my wife, Nancy Spittoon

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually
latest death of retail news: gamestop (unsurprisingly)

quote:

Game retailer GameStop says it can’t sell itself, sees stock dive 27%

International gaming retail chain GameStop announced on Tuesday that one major save-the-company decision—to find a private buyer for the company and its subsidiaries—had been called off.

The announcement ushered in the public company's largest stock-value dip in over 10 years, seeing it plummet in one day from $15.49 to (as of press time) $11.28—a dive of roughly 27 percent.

The Texas-based gaming retailer had been linked to acquisition rumors, as The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that multiple private equity firms had been circling GameStop—and its subsidiaries, including the merch-focused ThinkGeek and the gaming magazine Game Informer. That report had suggested a deal might close by mid-February.

However, Tuesday's statement indicated that prospective deals fell through "due to the lack of available financing on terms that would be commercially acceptable to a prospective acquirer." The rest of the statement offers little clear hint of the company's next steps beyond pumping the cash from a recent subsidiary sale into options such as "reducing the company’s outstanding debt, funding share repurchases, or reinvesting in core video game and collectibles businesses to drive growth."
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/01/gamestop-calls-off-its-search-for-a-buyer-sees-a-one-day-stock-dive-of-27/

lol not even the vulture distressed asset strippers want anything to do with gamestop

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

my bitter bi rival posted:

those are all made up names attached to nvidia deep cgi photos. Im Sunny Venmo. This is my wife, Nancy Spittoon

i'm garth

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

party on

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


y'know if you're at the point where you have an overpowering reflexive urge to rush to the defense of videogame nazis maybe you should examine your life choices a bit

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

party on wayne

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

FMguru posted:

latest death of retail news: gamestop (unsurprisingly)
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2019/01/gamestop-calls-off-its-search-for-a-buyer-sees-a-one-day-stock-dive-of-27/

lol not even the vulture distressed asset strippers want anything to do with gamestop

thinkgeek is a subsidiary of gamestop? man that explains a lot

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Shame Boy posted:

y'know if you're at the point where you have an overpowering reflexive urge to rush to the defense of videogame nazis maybe you should examine your life choices a bit

i would prefer that they closely examine the barrel of a loaded gun while squeezing the trigger

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

i would prefer that they closely examine the barrel of a loaded gun while squeezing the trigger

i just wish that for at least one of those idiots they just once in their goddamn lives step back and go "wait what the hell am I doing"? like it's even a goddamn videogame, if anything can possibly trigger anime and pepe avatar chuds to have a moment of clarity it should be that

seeing people be so bold-facedly stupid and completely unable to introspect at all is just so goddamn disappointing, idk

BMan
Oct 31, 2015

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ATTAAAACK


They're not introspecting because they're 100% actual nazis, they know exactly what they're about and it's killing minorities

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

BMan posted:

They're not introspecting because they're 100% actual nazis, they know exactly what they're about and it's killing minorities

idk i'm sure a bunch of them are (that pepe avatar guy that thinks not liking trump is some sort of popularity thing definitely) but others just seem like useful idiots that haven't actually thought about this much beyond what 4chan tells them to

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Shame Boy posted:

y'know if you're at the point where you have an overpowering reflexive urge to rush to the defense of videogame nazis maybe you should examine your life choices a bit

video game nazis are extremely good apparently, you instantly know who to ban lol

dragon enthusiast
Jan 1, 2010
I wonder how many of those are Russian bots / people who have too much time on their hands and actively search for twitter keywords to respond to without caring about the source

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
i mean we do live in the era of NEETs and there's a strong overlap of those and ~gaming~

Fuzzy Mammal
Aug 15, 2001

Lipstick Apathy
the 'you better fire yourself' uber letter was unsealed from the waymo otto lawsuit apparently

go away posted:

Travis Kalanick
1455 Market St. #400
San Francisco, CA 94103

Dear Travis:

On behalf of Benchmark, First Round Capital, Menlo Ventures, Lowercase Capital, and Fidelity Investments, we are writing to express our profound concerns about Uber’s future, its willingness to fully embrace the changes that are needed to move forward, and your ability to implement them.

We all believe in Uber’s mission. We are deeply grateful for your vision and tireless efforts over the last eight years, which have created a company whose technology and workforce have transformed the world’s idea of transportation.

A series of recent revelations, however, continues to affect Uber’s business and put the mission at risk. Among the enormously troubling developments that have recently come to light are the issues of discrimination, harassment, and retaliation that prompted the Holder Report, as well as publicly reported allegations about the behavior of Uber’s senior executives in connection with the India rape incident and other matters. The ongoing Waymo trade secret litigation and Greyball investigation are also extremely serious and unresolved.

We believe that the cultural values of Uber need to be transformed to embrace transparency, diversity and social responsibility alongside growth and the bottom line. We believe that this transformation is possible - and is necessary for Uber to succeed operationally and as a respected member of the community. The public perception is that Uber fundamentally lacks ethical and moral values. Uber has a clear opportunity to engage positively with its employees, drivers and customers to change the company, correct this perception and achieve Uber’s full potential.

As shareholders representing approximately 40% of Uber’s voting shares and 28% of Uber’s overall stock, we believe the company must immediately take concrete steps to address these issues and strengthen Uber. The company must change at its core. If Uber does not adequately address the company’s ethical, cultural, and governance issues now, Uber’s operations and reputation will continue to erode, to the detriment of the company and all of its stakeholders, including you.

To that end, we believe that the company must take certain concrete steps to enhance its leadership and culture. Please know that we remain fully supportive of Uber’s mission and the incredibly positive role Uber can play in communities around the world. But that positive role -and Uber’s full value for all its stakeholders -cannot be realized unless Uber achieves a new level of trust, social responsibility and transparency through the adoption of values that transcend the negative business practices and culture of the past. With these changes we firmly believe Uber can ensure its future as one of the most important companies Silicon Valley has ever produced.

Below are the steps that we believe are imperative to serve this end:

First, you need to immediately and permanently resign as CEO and transition this leadership role to capable hands. We strongly believe a change in leadership- coupled with effective Board oversight, governance improvements, and other immediate actions -is necessary for Uber to move forward. We need a trusted, experienced, and energetic new CEO who can help Uber navigate through its many current issues, and achieve its full potential.

Second, Uber’s current governance structures, including the composition and structure of the Board of Directors, are no longer appropriate for a $70 billion company with over 14,000 employees. The new CEO must report to an independent Board that will exercise appropriate oversight, which will help the company attract the most qualified candidates for CEO. Further, as you know, the Holder Report calls for the appointment of additional independent Board members. To that end, you should fill two of the three Board seats you control (retaining one for yourself) with truly independent directors who comply with the Holder Report’s recommendations for qualification for service on the Board as an independent -that is, they should be experienced, unbiased, and come from diverse backgrounds. They should also have the unanimous support of all the directors. You should also commit to apply the same standards to any future appointments to those two Board seats.

Third, new leadership from a revitalized Board and a new CEO will allow Uber to begin the critical process of healing and rebuilding to resume its path to success. You should support a board led CEO search committee, with an independent chairperson, and the inclusion of a representative of senior management and a representative of the driver community. We believe CEO candidates must have not only a fully articulated strategic vision and expert management skills to lead Uber, but -equally important -the ability to establish the ethical, values -based culture Uber needs to move forward.

Fourth, the company should immediately hire an adequately experienced interim or permanent Chief Financial Officer. Uber has shown an unwillingness to hire and retain experienced executives, especially in the finance area. The company has intentionally operated without a properly qualified executive in the top finance role for over two years. The interests of all of Uber’s stakeholders would be served by urgently addressing this need for financial expertise in management.

We hope you will agree to move forward with us on this path, and look forward to your response.
:cb:

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

dragon enthusiast posted:

people who have too much time on their hands and actively search for twitter keywords to respond to without caring about the source

probably all of them, what difference doe that make?

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

rip video game [and funko pop] retail

quote:

International gaming retail chain GameStop announced on Tuesday that one major save-the-company decision—to find a private buyer for the company and its subsidiaries—had been called off.

The announcement ushered in the public company's largest stock-value dip in over 10 years, seeing it plummet in one day from $15.49 to (as of press time) $11.28—a dive of roughly 27 percent.

The Texas-based gaming retailer had been linked to acquisition rumors, as The Wall Street Journal reported earlier this month that multiple private equity firms had been circling GameStop—and its subsidiaries, including the merch-focused ThinkGeek and the gaming magazine Game Informer. That report had suggested a deal might close by mid-February.

However, Tuesday's statement indicated that prospective deals fell through "due to the lack of available financing on terms that would be commercially acceptable to a prospective acquirer." The rest of the statement offers little clear hint of the company's next steps beyond pumping the cash from a recent subsidiary sale into options such as "reducing the company’s outstanding debt, funding share repurchases, or reinvesting in core video game and collectibles businesses to drive growth."

GameStop had already hinted at drastic action in calls to investors over the past year. The company had failed to satisfy growth-hungry investors in spite of its attempts to expand and diversify its used- and gaming-products sales reach with the acquisition of chains like Spring Wireless and SimplyMac. GameStop concluded its sale of Spring Wireless earlier this month for over $700 million, but even that didn't jumpstart investors' hopes. This month's stock high of $15.93 is well short of its 2013 peak of over $46.
basically there isn't even enough remaining value for a private equity group to mine it out and leave a smoking bankrupt husk

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

Game? Stop!

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde
how many game company execs are greedily licking their lips at the death of used game retail

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
what, are pawn shops suddenly going to stop existing too?

post hole digger
Mar 21, 2011

quote:

Desperate for data on its competitors, Facebook has been secretly paying people to install a “Facebook Research” VPN that lets the company suck in all of a user’s phone and web activity, similar to Facebook’s Onavo Protect app that Apple banned in June and that was removed in August. Facebook sidesteps the App Store and rewards teenagers and adults to download the Research app and give it root access in what may be a violation of Apple policy so the social network can decrypt and analyze their phone activity, a TechCrunch investigation confirms. Facebook admitted to TechCrunch it was running the Research program to gather data on usage habits.

Since 2016, Facebook has been paying users ages 13 to 35 up to $20 per month plus referral fees to sell their privacy by installing the iOS or Android “Facebook Research” app. Facebook even asked users to screenshot their Amazon order history page. The program is administered through beta testing services Applause, BetaBound and uTest to cloak Facebook’s involvement, and is referred to in some documentation as “Project Atlas” — a fitting name for Facebook’s effort to map new trends and rivals around the globe.

We asked Guardian Mobile Firewall’s security expert Will Strafach to dig into the Facebook Research app, and he told us that “If Facebook makes full use of the level of access they are given by asking users to install the [root CA] Certificate, they will have the ability to continuously collect the following types of data: private messages in social media apps, chats from in instant messaging apps – including photos/videos sent to others, emails, web searches, web browsing activity, and even ongoing location information by tapping into the feeds of any location tracking apps you may have installed.” It’s unclear exactly what data Facebook is concerned with, but it gets nearly limitless access to a user’s device once they install the app.

The strategy shows how far Facebook is willing to go and how much it’s willing to pay to protect its dominance — even at the risk of breaking the rules of Apple’s iOS platform on which it depends. Apple could seek to block Facebook from continuing to distribute its Research app, or even revoke it permission to offer employee-only apps, and the situation could further chill relations between the tech giants. Apple’s Tim Cook has repeatedly criticized Facebook’s data collection practices. Facebook disobeying iOS policies to slurp up more information could become a new talking point. TechCrunch has spoken to Apple and it’s aware of the issue, but the company did not provide a statement before press time.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/29/facebook-project-atlas/

post hole digger fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jan 30, 2019

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H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

infernal machines posted:

what, are pawn shops suddenly going to stop existing too?

minors are typically restricted from entering pawn shops

tho idk maybe some of the hellstates allow it

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