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kidkissinger posted:Also there is no such thing as a "Stalinist" unless you really just mean Marxist-Leninist. "Stalinist" means you support outright killing those who oppose the transition to Communism. "Maoist" means you support merely "reeducating" those people. The pattern continues for "Leninist". They are all Communist, but differ in the methods to implement Communism.
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Okay then just consider that a reply to the idiot you were posting at. Fair. 
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CommieGIR posted:Socialist =/= communist. My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. I'm willing to change my mind on this though. Those are mainly my concerns. Vile Pilot fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jan 29, 2019 |
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Vile Pilot posted:My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. Holy moly.
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Vile Pilot posted:My main problem with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. Not sure we are better off with the current system as we know it crashes the economy due to ample evidence.
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Vile Pilot posted:My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. You need to emphasize, because this is not remotely true. Taxes on income above $10 million was directly responsible from a massive economic boom in the 1940s and 1950s. Versus our current system that cuts taxes and promote the fallacy of Trickle Down Theory. There's nothing to poorly implement.
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cr0y posted:https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1090345954446721025?s=19 Christ, Twitter is so loving humorless about their bans.
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Awesome https://mobile.twitter.com/RepDebHaaland/status/1090342088368144385 https://mobile.twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1090313741609193473
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CubanMissile posted:gently caress it, just have them sign contracts to work for WorryFree. Saw this movie a week ago. It was good. Vile Pilot posted:My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. What is this little bitch baby poo poo
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we gonna let the formerly permabanned troll rock this thread all day with soft freshly dropped hottakes or what
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cr0y posted:https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1090345954446721025?s=19 He (or someone at popehat) does the DPRK News Service account as well, and a few others probably
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It is pretty funny honestly. Even more so if you pretend they are genuine takes.
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Jan 29, 2019 21:54
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Vile Pilot posted:My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. I'm going to engage in good faith. How would they crash the economy? Which polices exactly? None of their policies will be implemented without disruption, that is correct. I touched on that earlier in my posts about UBI. What exactly are you seeing as potential economy crashers? Single Payer? Unlikely, though a bunch of people who are in the bloated sections of the healthcare industry would get screwed, i.e. people whose jobs depend on the network of insurance companies and interfacing between and with them. 70% tax on income above 10 million? Its been done in the past, in this country.
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luxury handset posted:we gonna let the formerly permabanned troll rock this thread all day with soft freshly dropped hottakes or what eh, hes not posting anything super inflammatory so maybe someone reading will learn something.
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Meridian posted:It is pretty funny honestly. Even more so if you pretend they are genuine takes. WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? I fell for it too. ^^^ A noble, if destructive act.
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snorch posted:As someone from a country that has strong democratic socialist systems that, despite some flaws, do tremendous good to society, it amazes me just how thorough a job the American right has done turning socialism into a dirty word, ensuring that any policy proposal even remotely geared towards giving people at the lower end of the ladder a leg up through public means is easily slandered as "socialism, and therefore communism/hitler". It's probably the consequence of our two major foundation myths, which are the American Dream and the Just World Fallacy. If all it takes to succeed is hard work, and bad things only happen to bad people, then we can hate on the poors and refuse to help, because they must be lazy bad people.
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luxury handset posted:we gonna let the formerly permabanned troll rock this thread all day with soft freshly dropped hottakes or what That poster isn't being an overt dick and just comes off a little ignorant. I would give the benefit of the doubt. Hell my viewpoint was pretty similar before I started actually paying attention to politics and started my intractable slide left.
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snorch posted:As someone from a country that has strong democratic socialist systems that, despite some flaws, do tremendous good to society, it amazes me just how thorough a job the American right has done turning socialism into a dirty word, ensuring that any policy proposal even remotely geared towards giving people at the lower end of the ladder a leg up through public means is easily slandered as "socialism, and therefore communism/hitler". Actually this goes way back to like the revolutions in Europe when socialist thought was first really showing up. It scared the poo poo out of everyone in power, and when Russia fell during WW1 that fear went into hyperdrive and we've been riding that wave ever since. We've done a good job throughout the cold war of turning it into basically a swear word for many people though, and it'll take a while before people are able to decouple "socialist" from "hey I like being able to afford health care".
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Right wing freak out https://mobile.twitter.com/thehill/status/1090345092148269058 https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1090347260808814592 quote:Republican Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) criticized the move in to strike the phrasing from the committee’s rules. “It is incredible, but not surprising, that the Democrats would try to remove God from committee proceedings in one of their first acts in the majority,” she said.
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The username does kind of give away the game, though. I had forgotten about Vile Pilot, and if that's actually him, he absolutely should be permabanned immediately for his own health.
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Richard Stans is rolling over in his grave
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It's still so crazy seeing millennials in national politics. Inevitable, but crazy.
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Vile Pilot posted:My main problems with someone like AOC or Bernie is that their policies could either somehow crash the economy, or they are so poorly implemented that they are demonized for the next 20+ years. Not to pile on, but it's amazing that people can and do make this kind of argument in good faith. The global financial system almost self-destructed 10 years ago and was only saved by extensive state intervention. This complete failure of the existing economic system is still in living memory! But somehow its reformists that must guarantee they won't cause economic collapse (as if increased taxes on the wealthy would be anything other than massive stimulus), to some undefined standard.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its not even just the centrist line that pisses me off, its that he is basically getting mad at the left for trying to make any kind of positive change. at least the shittier libs in the primary are making positive noises toward universal healthcare/M4A. this dude isn't even doing that. he doesn't have a platform outside Status quo except dumber then that. It's honestly worse than that. Schultz has made a choice that, essentially, the risk of the super rich not being nearly as important and powerful justifies enabling fascists. The idea that he, an Important Businessman with Good Opinions, might have to be financially accountable for the damage that he and other Important Businesspeople have done to the country, is so anathema that he is willing to risk four more years of Trump in order to avoid a candidate that is insufficiently tame for his standards. He is willing to let ICE brutalize more people, energize more Nazis to commit hate crimes, let an idiot continue chipping away at the foundations of the international order to bring us back to pure Hobbesian international relations...all so his taxes don't go up. Even if I don't think he as a candidate is likely to have any real effect on the race in 2020, a version of him that isn't boring as hell could be a problem when the future Trump-but-competent inevitably shows up on the scene. There are a lot of Howard Schultzes, and most of them would go Nazi rather than see their power base eroded in any way.
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KickerOfMice posted:WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW? the best way to post is to bite down HARD on all trollbait, it's much more fun than not taking the bait that's why they call it "bait," it's so yummy and delicious wait I probably should not be endorsing that kind of posting never mind
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:the best way to post is to bite down HARD on all trollbait, it's much more fun than not taking the bait Yeah it should be crystal clear by now that Vile Pilot is 1) Stupid, 2) trolling, 3) a twisted Really Online shut-in type who doesn't know anything, 4) poo poo stirring or my pick, 5) all of the above In any case we should all mash that ignore button and move on. I have.
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Idgaf if someone is lazy or whatever, just give em a few bucks to take a load off, it would make them really happy, less stressed, and nicer to have around. The people who go on about them not deserving it are all salty sad sacks, and are disinvited from the fun times everyone gets a slice party. The people who say we can't pay for it are hereby ordered to report to the guillotine.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:the best way to post is to bite down HARD on all trollbait, it's much more fun than not taking the bait 
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snorch posted:Idgaf if someone is lazy or whatever, just give em a few bucks to take a load off, it would make them really happy, less stressed, and nicer to have around. I find their lack of faith disturbing.
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Christie really hates the kushners lol https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/1090349993049886721?s=21
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Right wing freak out It should've never been there in the first place: quote:The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
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Harik posted:You don't get a more obvious setup than this. oh boy, that report any day now. Of course it'll be after a single president has picked almost half of the entire life-long Supreme Court, but yeah any day now it'll all be better.
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Late, but as another thing that annoys me about trump's latest global warming tweet: Sure, record lows for the next couple days. After that? Back to unseasonably warm weather by about 10-20 degrees (at least here).
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Harik posted:You don't get a more obvious setup than this. Maybe it’s the timing but lol at the expressions those two dudes have behind the guy holding the orange jersey. A grimace and a facepalm.
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Bicyclops posted:The username does kind of give away the game, though. I had forgotten about Vile Pilot, and if that's actually him, he absolutely should be permabanned immediately for his own health. who do we think this person is?
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Doctor Butts posted:Late, but as another thing that annoys me about trump's latest global warming tweet: Same https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1090327649896013824?s=21
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Awesome Her presence makes me proud and hopeful. Especially since I'll probably never need to call her office and tell her to eat poo poo.
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Bicyclops posted:While they're at it, they can take "under God" out of the pledge, or, better still, throw the entire Pledge of Allegiance into the garbage. The latter. It's creepy and authoritarian and it's brainwashing to force it on kids too young to question it and/or too young to understand what they're actually saying.
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