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Wasabi the J posted:You burn through lightbulbs faster, especially in hotter climates, like here in Vegas. Bulbs just burn the gently caress out fast. You’re right, and I hadn’t considered the hotter climate issue, but in my mind that’s not a huge price to pay for my own cars.
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I agree completely. That was sarcasm, because:Crotch Fruit posted:I would like to believe the average driver has enough of a survival instinct in their lizard brain to put down the phone long enough to not ram the broker down car in the lane of traffic. [...] I don't feel any less safe by not trying to leave a 200ft gap between me and the car in front of me. [...] I still feel the roads are safe enough to drive with gaps less than 200ft.
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Did any kind of lawsuit come from that accident for someone building a barrier that would guarantee anything that hits it stops instantly? I mean if they had swapped the two end points both sides of the road would have a chance at a relatively smooth collision.
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Jan 28, 2019 16:56
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Krakkles posted:Case in point:
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Jan 28, 2019 17:34
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xzzy posted:Did any kind of lawsuit come from that accident for someone building a barrier that would guarantee anything that hits it stops instantly? AASHTO publishes the "Roadside Design Guide" which includes guidance on how to safely create transitions that don't kill you when you hit them with your car. It doesn't take much cushioning to make things a lot safer - if you hit a "safe" crash cushion at 70 mph, you'll slow to zero over 50 feet instead of over 2 feet. For temporary applications, that will frequently include a whole bunch of barrels filled with sand or similar, located in front of the start of the temporary concrete barrier. There are also special devices that you can use to bolt a temporary concrete barrier to an existing run of barrier, so there's no blunt end to hit. That shoulder didn't look like it had enough width to put a full drum setup for high speed applications - typically those have like 10 drums total, with pairs of big drums close to the obstacle. And that jeep stopped FAST. I wouldn't be surprised if he/his estate sued the state and the engineer that designed that setup, and won or got a settlement.
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Devor posted:AASHTO publishes the "Roadside Design Guide" which includes guidance on how to safely create transitions that don't kill you when you hit them with your car. It doesn't take much cushioning to make things a lot safer - if you hit a "safe" crash cushion at 70 mph, you'll slow to zero over 50 feet instead of over 2 feet. Looks like it was a construction zone in 2015: https://www.google.com/maps/@27.950...!7i13312!8i6656 Really lovely timing to be a bad driver because in google's July 2015 pictures of that spot the construction is gone.
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Jan 28, 2019 19:10
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xzzy posted:Looks like it was a construction zone in 2015: If that attenuator was properly sized and in good condition (i.e. the consumable inserts that go in it hadn't been crushed) then hopefully it did its job and the injuries weren't too bad. Looking at an earlier shot, it looks like it might be the type that's supposed to have cartridges, without cartridges installed Example: https://vimeo.com/78003121 2014: https://www.google.com/maps/@27.950...!7i13312!8i6656
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Krakkles posted:I agree completely. That was sarcasm, because: I originally misinterpreted the original post by stating the estimated stopping distance is 150-175 feet and thought that meant the op felt you needed enough time to come to a full stop between you and the car in front of you, which would have been ~175 + another 100 or 200 ft for reaction time, which I don't feel would be necessary since you don't need to be able to come to a full stop in the distance you need to be able to slop down stop as fast as the car in front of you which would be 200ft like the original post. The Jeep example (and yes, that probably would have happened to any other car) is a lovely example because a) I think the driver was following too close to the jeep (they definitely were too close to the Tahoe), b) there was minimal warning that the jeep was pulling over (was the guy slowing down prior to trying to pull off? why did the guy think it was ok to pull over somewhere with a barricade and no shoulder?) and c) guard rails are not supposed to be vehicle launchers.
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Crotch Fruit posted:I originally misinterpreted the original post by stating the estimated stopping distance is 150-175 feet and thought that meant the op felt you needed enough time to come to a full stop between you and the car in front of you, which would have been ~175 + another 100 or 200 ft for reaction time, which I don't feel would be necessary since you don't need to be able to come to a full stop in the distance you need to be able to slop down stop as fast as the car in front of you which would be 200ft like the original post. The Jeep example (and yes, that probably would have happened to any other car) is a lovely example because a) I think the driver was following too close to the jeep (they definitely were too close to the Tahoe), b) there was minimal warning that the jeep was pulling over (was the guy slowing down prior to trying to pull off? why did the guy think it was ok to pull over somewhere with a barricade and no shoulder?) and c) guard rails are not supposed to be vehicle launchers. tl;dr: Learn how to loving drive.
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The poster of that youtube video said the Jeep's driver ended up in ICU but survived. That does not seem to be how a highway barrier is supposed to function.
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Remember that guy who autopiloted himself into a barrier in a Tesla? That barrier had an energy‐absorbing thing on it, but it had been used in a crash sometime before and never refurbished.
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Jan 29, 2019 08:55
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Platystemon posted:Remember that guy who autopiloted himself into a barrier in a Tesla? The guy also complained to tesla about his car's lust for that barrier and continued to zone out while using autopilot there anyways.
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Jan 29, 2019 09:17
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That's because the state painted lane lines that steered you directly into the barrier. You could Wile E. Coyote self driving cars into obstacles with a bucket of paint and bad intentions.
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Jan 29, 2019 14:58
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This is why I laugh at the idea of self-driving cars. Yeah, take me to my dentist appointment that I had yesterday. Oh wait, there is 4" of snow, a water main break, and an ambulance trying to get through while a lane is closed off. Flying cars and nuclear fusion are closer.
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Jan 29, 2019 15:47
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Shamino posted:... Only Teslas. Every other company incorporates lidar for exactly that reason.
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Jan 29, 2019 16:46
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Saw a couple geezers who should really not be driving today. One was a tiny woman in a Miata sitting in the left lane with her turn signal on. Next to the turn lane. The other was some guy in a pristine 1st gen Bronco who slowly pulled out into traffic and slowly cut across 2 lanes, 3 if you count the turn lane he barged into at an intersection and ran the red. e: The Bronco didn't just go, he cut off everyone and all the northbound lanes had to hit the brakes to avoid him.
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Jan 29, 2019 20:46
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Never lift!! https://i.imgur.com/UjLthmp.mp4
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I'm the single cycle of the wipers at the end.
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Is that person just blindly flooring it? I literally cannot comprehend what's happening there.
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Javid posted:Is that person just blindly flooring it? I literally cannot comprehend what's happening there. he's drunk
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Maker Of Shoes posted:he's drunk This is beyond drunk.
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Colostomy Bag posted:This is beyond drunk. I watched a drunk dude fall off an embankment, break his arm (to the point it was flopping around at like 90 degrees off angle) and then try to wave off all offers of help and "we need to get you to the hospital". Dude's drunk.
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Maybe he had his foot mashed down on the floor and was throwing the shifter around until he realized it wasn't the wiper stalk. Accidents happen, you know!  Pretty impressive traction on the truck too, considering the snowfall.
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Colostomy Bag posted:This is why I laugh at the idea of self-driving cars. Yeah, take me to my dentist appointment that I had yesterday. Oh wait, there is 4" of snow, a water main break, and an ambulance trying to get through while a lane is closed off. 
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Javid posted:Is that person just blindly flooring it? I literally cannot comprehend what's happening there. It's a lazy way of getting the ice off the roof.
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Haifisch posted:For some mysterious reason, most diehard self-driving car believers live in places that rarely, if ever, get snow. Probably a coincidence? Perhaps solutions may be more or less tenable depending on climate!
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The US roads will continue to crumble to dust and self driving cars will have a hell of a time with that.
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Haifisch posted:For some mysterious reason, most diehard self-driving car believers live in places that rarely, if ever, get snow. Probably a coincidence? Maybe self-driving cars are self-driving for 90% of the time and then the 10% of the time there is heavy fog/a foot of snow/offroad/suicide into the ocean you drive it yourself?
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The Prong Song posted:Maybe self-driving cars are self-driving for 90% of the time and then the 10% of the time there is heavy fog/a foot of snow/offroad/suicide into the ocean you drive it yourself? They aren't even close to that and never will be.
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Let's train people to never drive except in the worst of road conditions, that'll end well.
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Yeah, people are bad enough as it is in lovely conditions, and that's with them driving that other 90% of the time. Self-driving cars should be all or none. "Self-driving most of the time except..." cars just create too many scenarios where some idiot is going to assume their car will do everything until it doesn't.
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Probably still better than the current situation?
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Phantasium posted:Let's train people to never drive except in the worst of road conditions, that'll end well. If we trained them, at least, that'd really be something. As is we take sixteen year old children, throw them into cars and say "yeah snow is slippery drive slowly I guess."
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As an American, the only test I took that was easier than my driving test was the one for my concealed carry permit. They both made me deeply distrustful of everyone else's abilities in both categories. e: which is not to say I'm hot poo poo, it was just waaaay to easy
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jamal posted:Probably still better than the current situation? I think having a bunch of self-driving cars would certainly result in fewer accidents and better traffic flow for that 90% of good-enough driving conditions. But then what you're doing with those inexperienced drivers is cramming way MORE accidents into the days with inclement weather. So it might be a net benefit, but the bad days will get so bad that you'll just start seeing the government and businesses shut down when the weatherman predicts fog in the morning. So hey, it might result in more teleworking.
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davebo posted:I think having a bunch of self-driving cars would certainly result in fewer accidents and better traffic flow for that 90% of good-enough driving conditions. But then what you're doing with those inexperienced drivers is cramming way MORE accidents into the days with inclement weather. So it might be a net benefit, but the bad days will get so bad that you'll just start seeing the government and businesses shut down when the weatherman predicts fog in the morning. So hey, it might result in more teleworking. Honestly, aside from the interim where people insist that your unskilled rear end absolutely has to drive across town in a blizzard to sit at a cube and use web-based applications, that seems like a big win.
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I want an autonomous car so I can watch porn on my commute to work. I think an optical system might be able to follow the lines today, but with enough processing power it might be able to pick out things like construction cones, guard rails, or pedestrians. What I think would be more reliable would be to embed a tracking device in the road surface, like maybe a hot electrical wire, radio signal, or even just a great big hunk of iron that could be picked up magnetically. If a tracking system was implemented (or even just enough optical processing to be able to guess where the road surface is), then I think an automated car could handle snow better especially since it could use all 4 wheel speed sensors as well as accelerometers or a compass to determine when the car is spinning like a top and how to exit the spin.
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Crotch Fruit posted:If a tracking system was implemented (or even just enough optical processing to be able to guess where the road surface is), then I think an automated car could handle snow better especially since it could use all 4 wheel speed sensors as well as accelerometers or a compass to determine when the car is spinning like a top and how to exit the spin. You're just describing stability control/dynamic braking/torque vectoring here.
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for a good lidar that was not as affected by fog, smoke, particulate matter and had the speed and resolution of detail required for proper accuacy, it would be a majority of the price of the car. some of the new ones are getting better, but gently caress if i would just sit back and relax when the thing is getting point spacing of maybe 1 per foot at distances over 20 feet
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um excuse me posted:You're just describing stability control/dynamic braking/torque vectoring here.
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