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Got accused of using emotional logic today when talking about the massive scientific consensus behind climate change. That one threw me for a loop.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:20
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Fallom posted:Got accused of using emotional logic today when talking about the massive scientific consensus behind climate change. That one threw me for a loop. jfc How did they define / use 'emotional logic' in context? I teach a psedoscience course at my college so am actually quite interested in how people go about this poo poo.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:23
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Being passionate about objectivity is its own emotional trap. Checkmate, science.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:23
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That Works posted:jfc Well, this is the man that....draws very muscular imagery of Trump.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:37
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That Works posted:jfc I didn’t engage with that point but from the context it seemed like they were trying to imply that excessive emotional attachment to the environment might lead one to latch on to studies that confirm that viewpoint. Obviously that argument is completely insane given that we’re talking about the entire planet’s worth of scientists lining up against Mr. Burns and guys who think the concept of nutrition is a leftist plot. To be honest I wish I could find some way out of this mental mode I currently feel where it seems like the rational world is slipping away and I need to engage with these people in order to feel like I’m helping in some way. Being dismissive works great on the internet but not in real life when somebody you’d otherwise respect starts going off on a science denialism tangent. I’ll note that these feelings became more prominent when I started drinking less.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:38
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That Works posted:jfc I find that poo poo heads using the phrase 'emotional logic' are almost universally the kind of person who slurps down anything that confirms their world view then barfs it back out at people in a meaningless, eternally smug string of poorly understood bullshit. That specific phrase is a lynchpin of right wing grifters. I personally associate it with Ben Shapiro and his 'facts not feelings' tag line. Those guidelines have not yet failed me in the rare occasion I come across someone using it.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:38
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Excessive emotional attachment to the environment..... Slap the poo poo out of them for me.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:41
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Imagine the kind of guy who reads Do Androids Dream... and gets excited about the state of the world.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:41
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I’ve seen shitlords earnestly argue that rape victims shouldn’t have a seat the table discussing sexual assault policies/laws/etc because they are too emotionally compromised. It’s almost like “emotional” is a cudgel to shut out ideas you don’t like or to marginalize people.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:42
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Fallom posted:I didn’t engage with that point but from the context it seemed like they were trying to imply that excessive emotional attachment to the environment might lead one to latch on to studies that confirm that viewpoint. Obviously that argument is completely insane given that we’re talking about the entire planet’s worth of scientists lining up against Mr. Burns and guys who think the concept of nutrition is a leftist plot. People honestly believe that the earth is flat. We've slipped from any grounding in reality a long time ago. What used to be satire is now irrefutable truth, and it's impossible to know who's in on the joke and who truly believes in it.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:46
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 61° in the Sandhills on February 3, 2019.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:48
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These are the same type that got mad about the Gillette ads saying “don’t be shitheads”, they’re just cosplaying as rational. As soon as they feel threatened in some way I bet the mask slips.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:48
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Fallom posted:excessive emotional attachment to the environment might lead one to latch on to studies that confirm that viewpoint. They need to meet more scientists. We're happy to devil's advocate any number of horror when working out a hypothesis. Thanks for the further description. I've seen similar things as well. Sadly confirmation bias and belief permanence are abundant. I typically try to get them to state why they disagree with consensus, ie based on what actual data but I'm a bit different background going into that kind of argument. Class is fun though. My opening lecture last week was "The Earth is flat" and today was "the earth is 6000 yrs old". Had a geologist give most of the talk on carbon dating and how it works etc.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:48
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As much as Dick Dorkins is a lovely person, I found his breakdown of how we know evolution is real from like a dozen different avenues of approach very good for going from accepting that evolution was real cause why would scientists lie to Knowing its real.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:52
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mlmp08 posted:As much as Dick Dorkins is a lovely person, I found his breakdown of how we know evolution is real from like a dozen different avenues of approach very good for going from accepting that evolution was real cause why would scientists lie to Knowing its real. It is, and I can't stand Dawkins either. A friend of mine in evolutionary biology gives the "man over monkey" lecture and he was the class favorite last year. Hell I learned tons, it ruled and the students were very engaged.
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Jan 30, 2019 23:55
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Huh. Earlier, the Chicago PD basically said "we checked over hundreds of hours of tape and didn't find any evidence of the assault of the Empire guy, but we're still looking!" Looks like they found it. https://twitter.com/AJGuglielmi/status/1090744809579601923
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Jan 31, 2019 00:02
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That Works posted:It is, and I can't stand Dawkins either. A friend of mine in evolutionary biology gives the "man over monkey" lecture and he was the class favorite last year. Hell I learned tons, it ruled and the students were very engaged. Dawkins is good at evolution. And that's about it. He's an rear end in a top hat and he's a jerk, and unless it relates to his field, he should go away.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:04
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CommieGIR posted:Dawkins is good at evolution. And that's about it. He's an rear end in a top hat and he's a jerk, and unless it relates to his field, he should go away. Haah yeah he should come with a "ban me if I'm posting outside of X forum" warning.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:06
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CommieGIR posted:He's an rear end in a top hat and he's a jerk, and unless it relates to his field, he should go away. academia.txt
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Jan 31, 2019 00:10
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https://twitter.com/parkermolloy/status/1090744739194986503?s=21
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Jan 31, 2019 00:12
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boil him in coffee e: or feed him to tigers, and sell the poo poo to rich idiots, like kopi luwak Tryzzub fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Jan 31, 2019 00:16
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shame on an IGA posted:academia.txt  Guilty
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Jan 31, 2019 00:17
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Retardog posted:I watched that Howard Schultz interview this morning and one of the other hosed up things he did was lump the teacher’s union in with Big Pharma and the NRA as special interests that we need to get rid of. One of my biz school mentors was a super rich guy from the area and yeah this is absolutely a thing they believe. Schultz thinks he's a liberal because he put the NRA on that list and he might have gay friends. The mega rich guy idea space is to the right of trump on a lot of things.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:35
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Best Friends posted:One of my biz school mentors was a super rich guy from the area and yeah this is absolutely a thing they believe. Schultz thinks he's a liberal because he put the NRA on that list and he might have gay friends. The mega rich guy idea space is to the right of trump on a lot of things. The ultra-rich not wanting the poors to own guns is a position I'm surprised more of them don't take.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:42
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You’d think cops would be more vocal about it too
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Jan 31, 2019 00:48
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Fallom posted:You’d think cops would be more vocal about it too Hard to support something that poor people with thinly concealed priors would suffer unilaterally from.
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Jan 31, 2019 00:50
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Fallom posted:I didn’t engage with that point but from the context it seemed like they were trying to imply that excessive emotional attachment to the environment might lead one to latch on to studies that confirm that viewpoint. Obviously that argument is completely insane given that we’re talking about the entire planet’s worth of scientists lining up against Mr. Burns and guys who think the concept of nutrition is a leftist plot. If you can get a legit honest answer out of 2 questions, you ask them: 1/ What if I'm wrong? and 2/ What if YOU are wrong? And things like this usually the answer to if they are wrong is "gently caress WE ALL DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH" . And if they are honestly willing to gamble billions of lives on some fringe belief just so they can be edgyyyyyy, well then, you know what opinion you should have of them.
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Jan 31, 2019 01:02
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I see Garrison is signing his work twice now.
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Jan 31, 2019 01:04
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Best Friends posted:One of my biz school mentors was a super rich guy from the area and yeah this is absolutely a thing they believe. Schultz thinks he's a liberal because he put the NRA on that list and he might have gay friends. The mega rich guy idea space is to the right of trump on a lot of things.
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Jan 31, 2019 01:24
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https://twitter.com/iraqschristians/status/1090075384991961090
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Jan 31, 2019 01:26
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The troops remain supported. https://www.militarytimes.com/off-d...-pay-fine-of-1/
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Jan 31, 2019 01:30
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we're screaming the quiet part wrt our foreign policy
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Jan 31, 2019 01:30
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Bolton's a piece of poo poo, but he's motivated by carnage and child death, not oil. He's saying that bullshit line to draw Donnie's attention and get his support for an invasion, because Donnie is always yammering about taking Iraq's oil.
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Jan 31, 2019 01:30
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facialimpediment posted:Bolton's a piece of poo poo
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Jan 31, 2019 01:33
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pro tip reason does not work on entrenched reactionaries, if you cannot sever at least mock them relentlessly
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Jan 31, 2019 01:42
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I thought that was too on the nose, then I noticed the user name :discoursechef:
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Jan 31, 2019 01:43
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Just saw this truck heading toward the back gates to SeaTac airport and recognized the sign. Ammo for a regular training exercise, or AN INVASION OF VENEZUELA??! 
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We have reason to believe that Venezuela is developing weapons of mass destruction. Recent intelligence suggests Maduro has attempted to procure aluminium tubes and yellow cake.
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