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the people that are gonna be real mad about that finish are the same type of people who cant wait to tell you how many people theyve seen die at short tracks, where REAL MEN DO THE REAL RACING NOT U SNOWFLAKES
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Cygni posted:the people that are gonna be real mad about that finish are the same type of people who cant wait to tell you how many people theyve seen die at short tracks, where REAL MEN DO THE REAL RACING NOT U SNOWFLAKES brb checking smoke's twitter
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Yet again I did not get to interview Rodney. Ffs.
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drgitlin posted:Yet again I did not get to interview Rodney. Ffs. He’s fast become your great neon and Velcro whale. And hey, if you didn’t get enough from last weekend at Daytona, guess what’s coming up this coming weekend? The Bathurst 12 Hour!
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harperdc posted:He’s fast become your great neon and Velcro whale. I’ll be heading along to watch the race on the Sunday after missing last years. It’s a great race to roll along to as the crowds aren’t massive and I hope the Bentley crew do better this year cause they always seem to get taken out by misfortune when their cars for the most part are super consistent all day.
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harperdc posted:He’s fast become your great neon and Velcro whale. And Nissan is streaming it all through the Nismo TV Youtube channel. Practice, qualifying, the shootout, race and all the support categories.
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what time does the race start in EST? Am I gonna have to get up at 3am to watch PT crash into a mountain?
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Basticle posted:what time does the race start in EST? Am I gonna have to get up at 3am to watch PT crash into a mountain? 5:45 Aussie Eastern time on Sunday is the green flag, which should be about 1:45 pm PT on Saturday afternoon. So, manageable for the US!
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Basticle posted:Am I gonna have to get up at 3am to watch PT crash into a mountain? Like asking if you *have to* eat ice cream ![]() e: https://www.facebook.com/7NewsBrisbane/videos/796596340687359/ ![]()
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Yeah Bathurst 12h is one of the few events in Australia that is easily watchable in the US
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:Yeah Bathurst 12h is one of the few events in Australia that is easily watchable in the US It’s also one of the easiest to watch in Australia without having to pay for the privilege. The NISMO stream will be geo locked during the event but should be open again afterwards. It’s also one of the few events shown on public tv. Every other series is only on pay tv which sucks immensely.
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Analysis: For Mazda's IMSA program, it's 51 and, unfortunately, counting.quote:
I honestly feel sorry for John Doonan, because he has had to watch the team come up agonizingly short every time for the last 5 years. ![]() If they were using even a V6 engine they would have a better shot. Cranking 40 psi of boost through a 2 liter 4 banger does not bode well for it surviving in an endurance environment. orange juche fucked around with this message at 11:04 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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orange juche posted:Analysis: For Mazda's IMSA program, it's 51 and, unfortunately, counting. oh man, this passage quote:Behind the car, John Doonan, head of the Mazda Motorsports programs in the U.S. -- and perhaps the most loved and respected constant presence in the paddock -- stood there with a look on his face you’d expect to see when a man is watching his house burn. is such a picture but so, so, so heartbreaking.
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orange juche posted:Analysis: For Mazda's IMSA program, it's 51 and, unfortunately, counting. Shoulda gone rotary ![]()
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Wirth1000 posted:Shoulda gone rotary so everyone would have been deaf by the time it blew up?
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harperdc posted:oh man, this passage Yeah he's a nice dude too, I've shaken his hand and chatted at fan events during the petit le mans.
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orange juche posted:If they were using even a V6 engine they would have a better shot. Cranking 40 psi of boost through a 2 liter 4 banger does not bode well for it surviving in an endurance environment. This is the part that always confuses me. I get that many of their production cars use a 4 cylinder but it just doesn't seem like a great idea for this kind of race car. Then again I'm no expert and there are some crazy 4 cylinder cars in other series. I just want Mazda to win. ![]()
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Also the worst thing about the Mazda prototype program flailing so hard unsuccessfully is that Mazda might wind up losing their taste for supporting grassroots racing efforts, or that John Doonan might just give up and get replaced by someone else who doesn't give a poo poo about racing beyond balancing an accounting sheet, which would lead to a significant paring back of their current motorsports involvement. Like, if you're involved in a Mazda Motorsports sanctioned series, you can get really good deals on OEM performance parts, and replacement equipment for your car that you are racing, as well as contingency awards (cash awards in GT classes, or credit towards performance parts if you're driving a Miata) for finishing in the top 5 spots in an endurance race. orange juche fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Mazda already abandoned the Road to Indy so...
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Basticle posted:Mazda already abandoned the Road to Indy so... Yeah Mazda pulling back from Road to Indy sucks really hard, a ton of the rookies who qualified for for the 2018 Indy 500 came up through the Mazda program. Who knows what's going to happen to that program in the future. Apparently Mazda is still paying for USF2000 and Pro Mazda for 2019, but they've already taken their name off everything.
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Basticle posted:so everyone would have been deaf by the time it blew up? Joke doesnt work if you remember who out of the Japanese won LeMans first
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Or the number of 12 Hour Bathurst runs that Mazda won during the 90s with the third gen RX-7
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orange juche posted:Also the worst thing about the Mazda prototype program flailing so hard unsuccessfully is that Mazda might wind up losing their taste for supporting grassroots racing efforts, or that John Doonan might just give up and get replaced by someone else who doesn't give a poo poo about racing beyond balancing an accounting sheet, which would lead to a significant paring back of their current motorsports involvement. I think Doonan's already working with a pared budget imposed upon him by Mazda USA. The cuts to MRTI were clearly made to move those eggs into the Prototype basket. I'm not sure how much more Mazda Motorsports could be cut down without causing them to become extinct as a brand in any racing series that gets actual viewership. Regardless of what that article posits, Mazda can't race only MX-5s and Mazda3 TCR cars in SRO GT America and just the latter in the feeder IMSA Michelin Pilot Challenge. It wouldn't justify a Motorsports program in general, and it seems like there are still a lot of people at corporate who feel that racing is integral to the brand they're shepherding. The problem is that with no coupes bigger than the Miata, they can't go into GTD or GTLM to try to save money. They almost have to be in Prototype now, but they're doing it with a bare minimum of resources because Mazda USA only has so much money and Mazda Japan has always been largely indifferent to US motorsports, especially when they're preoccupied with just keeping their company in the black.
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GTLM wouldn’t be any cheaper. Besides Corvette (which is adding a car for the WEC Sebring 1000), all of the GTLM teams are running development both for IMSA and the WEC, and possibly supplying cars for the Am class in ELMS. It’s a different animal than DPi. As well, even if they had a car for GT3, the SRO is on the record as not wanting any further “bespoke” GT3 cars. There’s a minimum build number (I think 25?) and requirement that the OEMs build them for customers and support them around the world. They’d be eligible for a lot of different series, but again, that’s different and a higher level of investment than doing DPi. I hope Mazda succeeds this year. They need to.
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harperdc posted:GTLM wouldn’t be any cheaper. Besides Corvette (which is adding a car for the WEC Sebring 1000), all of the GTLM teams are running development both for IMSA and the WEC, and possibly supplying cars for the Am class in ELMS. It’s a different animal than DPi. Yeah the difference between what Mazda Motorsports is doing and what a make like Audi does for their GT3 customers is night and day. Audi is required to provide logistical support and all sorts of poo poo (car transport if necessary, technical experts on site at races, parts trucks ready to go) for their GT3 customers all over the world, whereas Mazda Motorsports gives you a deal via their performance parts portal. Audi is a lot bigger and can afford that kind of support, I don't think Mazda could though.
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orange juche posted:Audi is a lot bigger and can afford that kind of support, I don't think Mazda could though. It’s not that Audi is bigger, it’s that they have built up the machine to support it. Ginetta probably has equally good customer support and they’re tiny by comparison.
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Neither GTLM/GTE/GT2 nor GTD/GT3 make any sense for Mazda. Maybe GT4, amp the Miata up like Spinal Tap and push that poo poo to 11? They don't really make racing cars, even the Miata is more of a pure sports car that people take on the track due to it's... "forgiving" They're in a bit of a bind and with no RX-7-tier replacement seemingly even on the horizon (the RX-Vision got turned into a luxury car iirc) that's just kind of where they are. They're stuck racing the cheapest prototype series they can find (which is DPi if you're a manufacturer) and they have 0 alternative options moving forwards except for cutting and running and ending a rich, storied tradition even if that tradition is mostly based on something that absolutely doesn't deserve it (the 787B) and ignoring dominance that absolutely does (the RX-7s). Even the engine choice for that cheap prototype racing is limited as Mazda only make (inline?) 4 cylinders these days. If the Furai had gone somewhere, we'd be cooking with gas. But we're not. We're waiting for the hotplate to turn on, dreaming of what was.
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And even if Mazda went with a rotary it’s not like those haven’t been banned or limited in ways to reduce the advantages to the package. Shame. Love hearing the angry kegs of bees.
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Clearly we must go with more esoteric engine designs. W-style engine endurance car when
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Spaced God posted:Clearly we must go with more esoteric engine designs. Bentley do run a car in Blancpain...
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Schlesische posted:Neither GTLM/GTE/GT2 nor GTD/GT3 make any sense for Mazda. Maybe GT4, amp the Miata up like Spinal Tap and push that poo poo to 11? Then, after this prototype stops catching fire at every race, you can put a lot of that development and money back into a flagship road car with a rotary hybrid powerplant, the same way Porsche's 919 influenced the 918 Spyder. Not at that cost level, of course, but something similar. Mazda wants to swim upmarket in the US and the Audi R8 showed how a beautiful supercar that draws a line directly to a successful racing heritage, when marketed well, can lead the way. And that car, and any cheaper sports cars derived from it, can eventually be turned into GT3 and GT4 customer cars so they can operate on a smaller, more profitable level of Motorsports in the future, if necessary. It'll never happen, because it takes way more money than Mazda USA has to spend, development resources that Mazda Japan can't and won't allocate, and risks spending a lot of cash and development efforts on something ultimately irrelevant like the new Acura NSX. But I would like it if it did!
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The 919 Hybrid actually influenced the current 911 and 718 way more than the 918 Spyder. The design of the cylinder and head on the 919 V4 shares a LOT with the the flat-4 and flat-6. Meanwhile the 918 Spyder actually owes a lot more to the RS Spyder of the mid-2000s. And in the real world, the RT24-P uses an AER racing engine that has nothing in common with Skyactiv-X or Skyactiv-G.
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Schlesische posted:Bentley do run a car in Blancpain... with a V8
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drgitlin posted:The 919 Hybrid actually influenced the current 911 and 718 way more than the 918 Spyder. The design of the cylinder and head on the 919 V4 shares a LOT with the the flat-4 and flat-6. Meanwhile the 918 Spyder actually owes a lot more to the RS Spyder of the mid-2000s. the 918 Spyder uses a V8 too, which I wouldn't be shocked to learn is closer to the RS Spyder. the 918 Spyder also came out a year before the 919 racer debuted. For those that don't know: the road car is going to be on the drawing board a whole lot earlier than that (the 919 had concept cars in 2010 and 2011 for reference).
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harperdc posted:the 918 Spyder uses a V8 too, which I wouldn't be shocked to learn is closer to the RS Spyder. the 918 Spyder also came out a year before the 919 racer debuted. For those that don't know: the road car is going to be on the drawing board a whole lot earlier than that (the 919 had concept cars in 2010 and 2011 for reference). Yep, the 918 engine is based on the RS Spyder’s V8.
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Basticle posted:with a V8 Cowards
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drgitlin posted:The 919 Hybrid actually influenced the current 911 and 718 way more than the 918 Spyder. The design of the cylinder and head on the 919 V4 shares a LOT with the the flat-4 and flat-6. Meanwhile the 918 Spyder actually owes a lot more to the RS Spyder of the mid-2000s. Bolting in a V8 because "you need one for racing" makes no sense if you can't link it to something you have in brand. Reminder: Racing Budgets almost universally (Toyotaaaaaa ![]() an oddly awful oud posted:
Rotaries. Are. Dead. an oddly awful oud posted:something ultimately irrelevant like the new Acura NSX. But I would like it if it did! The Acura NSX was irrelevant because Acura completely forgot everything that made the original NSX legendary and went in on tech (and price!) when they really didn't need to. Spaced God posted:Cowards In their defence, iirc the W12 was designed with biofuel mixes in mind.
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Schlesische posted:Bolting in a V8 because "you need one for racing" makes no sense if you can't link it to something you have in brand. Yeah, I agree, but it's striking me as funny that of the WEC teams from the recent past, the only two to connect the engine configuration to the road product were the Nissan GT-R LM and the Audi to an extent, though with Audi it was more focusing on the diesel aspect than it being a V6 or straight four or whatever. Toyota used first the V8 and then the turbo V6 because it made sense for the rules, and Porsche went with the V4 because Porsche. Schlesische posted:The Acura NSX was irrelevant because Acura completely forgot everything that made the original NSX legendary and went in on tech (and price!) when they really didn't need to. ...what made the original NSX legendary was the aluminum chassis technology, the high-revving VTEC engine, the audacity of the company what makes the Civic making a really good sports car, and also the first exotic supercar that was actually reliable. so, that's not tech? ![]() Mazda is awesome and I'm seriously considering the new Mazda
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I was considering that Mazda 3 hatch but then they waited ages to announce any details and won't have the cool engine available until the fall
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Have a couple of pieces up about Daytona, including this interview with Zanardi that people might enjoy: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2019/02/paralympic-gold-medalist-alex-zanardi-on-how-hes-able-to-race-at-daytona/
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