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predicto posted:I hate to be that guy but I can't help it 
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predicto posted:I hate to be that guy but I can't help it Dude got a literal magazine letter cut out death threat letter and the police are putting together video and other surveillance evidence to identify the attackers. Also he's in the hospital with a broken rib. Exactly like the girl who scratched a backwards B on her cheek.
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predicto posted:So it's 2 am, its well below freezing in Chicago, and two bad guys who just happen to be out wandering around wearing ski masks looking for a black or gay man to harass while carrying... bleach? Of course, it is possible, but I've become completely cynical about these things. someone had sent the guy threatening messages and he was jumped in a parking lot directly across from the NBC offices in downtown chicago, so someone was watching him. it's not just chuds wandering around
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luxury handset posted:someone had sent the guy threatening messages and he was jumped in a parking lot directly across from the NBC offices in downtown chicago, so someone was watching him. it's not just chuds wandering around Feels a lot like this to me as well. Ski masks I get cause it's god drat cold out. Bleach is "OK, but weird" territory. Who carries around a noose on a normal day to day basis though? That makes it feel like they knew him and planned this.
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Its just a bizarre criticism that could only be considered sincere if you're like really, really incapable of drawing obvious conclusions or completely ignorant to any racial history of any kind. Like it doesn't take a huge reach to figure out why a bunch of racists attacking a black man and calling him racial slurs and tying a rope around his neck would also have bleach to pour on him. Its a transparent racist action that fits with all the other things that make it clear these guys were making a premeditated racist attack. Its like if he said had been attacked by people wearing white hoods and you asked why they were outside in their bed sheets. edit: And like, I think its even possible that this WAS a random attack and that the letter was sent by an unrelated racist. I have no idea if the two are connected but it neither seems out of the realm of possibility that (a) multiple racist psychos targeted this black man and (b) racist psychos were looking for any black person to attack. I also don't think it really changes anything because either way it was clearly a premeditated lynching. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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STAC Goat posted:Its just a bizarre criticism that could only be considered sincere if you're like really, really incapable of drawing obvious conclusions or completely ignorant to any racial history of any kind. Like it doesn't take a huge reach to figure out why a bunch of racists attacking a black man and calling him racial slurs and tying a rope around his neck would also have bleach to pour on him. Its a transparent racist action that fits with all the other things that make it clear these guys were making a premeditated racist attack. TBH I assumed the letter was unrelated, and just presented as an example of the copious amounts of hate mail a black gay man on network TV probably receives Edit: vvv yeah, of all my many typos at least this one is vaguely topical Thaddius the Large fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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"I just can't make myself believe that some white guys actually beat up a black man and put a noose around his neck, I mean, it's just so improbable" e: hate male is a pretty good forum name
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Whoa Whoa whoa all the stories I've heard so far had just mentioned it was a likely hate crime incident. This is the first I've heard about the attackers being Trump supporters and the lynching angle of it. When did this information come out? Just with RAW? 
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predicto posted:Or when Morton Downey Jr. claimed that he was attacked in a bathroom at an airport by nazis but the swastika on his face was backwards. "How could a violent racist not use their head, deploying expert logic like business as usual?"
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This argument makes no sense. Its Chicago. Of course the dude got jumped. The real question is when did the city learn to restrain itself to the point that he wasn't flat out murdered?
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Eh, I was surprised by the cartoonish scale of the attack too. Like there was a checklist of "essential black person hatecrime activity" and they needed to check everything off. Don't get me wrong I believe him.
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Kale posted:Whoa Whoa whoa all the stories I've heard so far had just mentioned it was a likely hate crime incident. This is the first I've heard about the attackers being Trump supporters and the lynching angle of it. When did this information come out? Just with RAW? It came out with the original story yesterday.
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HootTheOwl posted:Eh, I was surprised by the cartoonish scale of the attack too. Like there was a checklist of "essential black person hatecrime activity" and they needed to check everything off. Don't get me wrong I believe him. Someone was just trying to fill their entire racist bingo card in one go.
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The best part of the post was this'predicto posted:its well below freezing in Chicago, and two bad guys who just happen to be out wandering around wearing ski masks
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mystes posted:The best part of the post was this' "I'm supposed to just believe that the bad guys were wearing cold weather gear in the middle of a polar vortex?!
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Some people in this thread need to think long and hard about what bleach does. Like, if you wanted to make something whiter you'd use bleach.
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HootTheOwl posted:Eh, I was surprised by the cartoonish scale of the attack too. Like there was a checklist of "essential black person hatecrime activity" and they needed to check everything off. Don't get me wrong I believe him. If he were lying he’d be more creative about it.
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mllaneza posted:Some people in this thread need to think long and hard about what bleach does. I would have thought the implication of trying to douse the guy with bleach in this instance would be blindly obvious. It's like STAC Goat said about it being like wondering what the implications of a bunch of guys going out into the street with white linen and torches are supposed to be. It's not like there's a lot of nuance involved. pseudorandom name posted:It came out with the original story yesterday. Weird, some sources mention it some sources just stuck to the hate crime part and I guess I only saw the later before today. I think it might be because the police are apparently just saying they're investigating a likely hate crime while Smollett apparently gave the statement about what was said and the details about MAGA slogans being shouted and there being a noose. I guess some of them just never actually interviewed him directly or something and just got the police statement. Now reading stories about people saying Trump should condemn the attacks which I don't even know why anyone would consider could be a thing that happens. That would require actual empathy obviously. The only way he's going to see it is that it's like an attack on him because no doubt he sees it only as people are "saying unfair things about MAGA's" not that somebody was assaulted. The only reason I can think of that he's stayed quiet so far is because he can't think of an angle to "counter-punch" on that in any way does anything for how perceives his own self-image. He'll probably respond to the people telling him to respond by being a poo poo about it somehow though before he comments directly on the incident Kale fucked around with this message at 05:26 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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I hate illinois nazis
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Herstory Begins Now posted:I hate illinois nazis 
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Libertarians finally going to win a state? EDIT: Actually, this is not too surprising. Add up Clinton's vote and McMullin's and it was 49%. Trump only got 45.54% https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1090950324523802625 Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Half of Utah is waiting for space ships.
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There's a lot to love about Utah but none of it involves the people who live there.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Libertarians finally going to win a state? No, they're going to put a Mormon on the ballot, just like they did in 2016. And the Mormon won't win, because there's still plenty of horrible people who'd rather see the country burn than elect a Democrat (not to say that the Mormon candidate won't be terrible as well).  E: Oh, you saw that! Stickman fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Stickman posted:No, they're going to put a Mormon on the ballot, just like they did in 2016. And the Mormon won't win, because there's still plenty of horrible people who'd rather see the country burn than elect a Democrat (not to say that the Mormon candidate won't be terrible as well). Utah is such a weird state with the whole majority one religion thing and it's not any of the major world ones even. Also apparently everyone in Utah that goes on to get a degree goes to Brigham Young University and won't have it any other way.
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Senate votes 68 to 23 against withdrawing from Syria and Afghanistan https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/01/31/us/politics/senate-vote-syria-afghanistan.amp.html
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Charlz Guybon posted:Senate votes 68 to 23 against withdrawing from Syria and Afghanistan Constitutionally, without a declaration of war isn't this the president's sole decision?
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HootTheOwl posted:Constitutionally, without a declaration of war isn't this the president's sole decision?
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HootTheOwl posted:Constitutionally, without a declaration of war isn't this the president's sole decision? Technically yes, but Congress controls the money that goes to the war. Pull the funding, pull the troops.
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FoolyCharged posted:Technically yes, but Congress controls the money that goes to the war. Pull the funding, pull the troops. But this situation is the opposite of that
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FoolyCharged posted:Technically yes, but Congress controls the money that goes to the war. Pull the funding, pull the troops. But in this instance they voted against it by voting for a resolution.
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Charlz Guybon posted:But this situation is the opposite of that Oh right, in this case to the best of my knowledge it's, "this money is granted under the condition that it cant be used to withdraw" Same general principle of Congress using money to exert control over the army since declaring war went out of style.
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FoolyCharged posted:Oh right, in this case to the best of my knowledge it's, "this money is granted under the condition that it cant be used to withdraw" This isn't even that. The Senate voted for something called the "sense of the Senate", which simply means "in our opinion, we believe we ought to do this/not do this", to which Trump can simply say "thank you for your input, I disagree, now time to get out."
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/st-louis-police-officer-accused-killing-colleague-russian/story?id=60745956 As expected, more details of the St. Louis Police Russian Roulette case are coming out: Including "drugs and alcohol" might have been a factor. And including the fact that the hospital refused to do the normal process of toxicology tests. At least two people aren't having it: the Circuit Attorney, and the Judge. The Judge said that it was not an accident, but an intentional act. It took at least four intentional acts, Unholstering the gun, loading the gun, pointing the gun and pulling the trigger. I imagine there will be a breaking point pretty soon where a lot of different details start coming out.
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glowing-fish posted:https://abcnews.go.com/US/st-louis-police-officer-accused-killing-colleague-russian/story?id=60745956 This is what the thin blue line is. Cops coming together shoulder to shoulder to shield their own from scrutiny. Whenever I see the dumb rear end flags with a blue line or the Texas silhouettes with a blue line, that all I think of. "Good" cops protecting their own from unfair criticism? Or is it "good" cops actually being bad cops by protecting bad cops. I guess that's why people say ACAB.
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duodenum posted:This is what the thin blue line is. Cops coming together shoulder to shoulder to shield their own from scrutiny. Whenever I see the dumb rear end flags with a blue line or the Texas silhouettes with a blue line, that all I think of. "Good" cops protecting their own from unfair criticism? Or is it "good" cops actually being bad cops by protecting bad cops. Depends on who you talk to. Those blue line idiots will tell you it means brotherhood or that they're the thin line that protects society from urban ni-, uhh THUGS. Like if they weren't there everything would collapse immediately.
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Wasn't the victim also a cop? They're not just protecting a bad cop here, they're protecting someone who killed one of their own.
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duodenum posted:This is what the thin blue line is. Cops coming together shoulder to shoulder to shield their own from scrutiny. Whenever I see the dumb rear end flags with a blue line or the Texas silhouettes with a blue line, that all I think of. "Good" cops protecting their own from unfair criticism? Or is it "good" cops actually being bad cops by protecting bad cops. That's what gets me about when people say bad cops are 'a few bad apples.' As a culture we've completely forgotten the rest of the phrase which is 'ruins the whole barrel.' The protection of abusive cops by non-abusive ones makes the abusive ones complicit in their crimes.
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VanSandman posted:That's what gets me about when people say bad cops are 'a few bad apples.' As a culture we've completely forgotten the rest of the phrase which is 'ruins the whole barrel.' The protection of abusive cops by non-abusive ones makes the abusive ones complicit in their crimes.
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