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HookedOnChthonics posted:The best product I ever saw advertised in one of those catalogs was “GI soap,” which offered varieties called things like Victory and Indominable. One of them was described as having “the incredibly manly scents of bergamot and black pepper,” which is I think one of the best progressions of words possible in the English language. IIRC George Washington's favorite cologne had a dominant bergamot scent to it. They're saying online it was Caswell-Massey Number Six cologne, but I could have sworn I read he mixed up his own with a bergamot/sour orange effect.
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Tias posted:During the cold war, the Swedish intelligence service lost ALL fall-back bases in northern Sweden, in one fell swoop by.. having isolated work crews for each base work on need-to-know bases, and throwing away the only map they placed them all on. Wasn't there some minor(?) scandal a few years back where a bunch of swedish fallback positions and such got leaked to the public? Like little bases/bunkers out in the middle of nowhere, Northern Sweden all out in the public eye.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Wasn't there some minor(?) scandal a few years back where a bunch of swedish fallback positions and such got leaked to the public? Like little bases/bunkers out in the middle of nowhere, Northern Sweden all out in the public eye. a beautiful story of lost and found
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Feb 1, 2019 04:33
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like little bases in the middle of nowhere, all this will be lost in time
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There used to be a little bar named Soldier of Fortune Klubi & Pub in Tallinn that used the SoF logo and I doubt it had bought a license. We speculated if it really was a front to a mercenary operation like in the game. That's my SoF story 
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wrt logos, sometimes i go by a taco place seemingly called santos laguna with the mexican soccer team's logo that im assuming isnt licensed (but who knows i guess). i've seen something similar with an auto shop or something using club america's name and logo anyway random ww2 question: what was night fighter doctrine, or tactics or whatever? what roles did they play, how did they get to their objective, and how did they go about shooting somebody else down in the dark? how did it change when radar came in, and how did that vary between combatants? i just read in an LP that japan's night fighters didn't get radar till 1945, did other countries start the war with it? just curious about night fighters, is all
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There were a couple of night-specific tactics. The Germans had one setup where the fighters would fly below bombers and catch them silhouetted against the night sky, then blast at them with upward-firing cannons, and another where unmodified day fighters would fly above the bomber formations and pick them up against fires and searchlights on the ground below. This was terrifying for the pilots because it was very difficult to find your airfield when the mission was over. All in all though you were much more effective with your own radar, though, which usually meant a larger airplane to accommodate the equipment and a dedicated operator - the RAF's first night fighters were converted light bombers, while the USAAF's dedicated night fighter, the P-61, was as large as a B-25. The Navy did mount some smaller sets on the outer wings of Hellcats and Corsairs, though. "Night intruder" missions were a fairly common thing, where you used the dark to fly in low and perform various acts of aerial harassment and disruption - the Mosquito was especially good at these. Two details that night fighters tended to get were flame dampers for engine exhausts and flash hiders for guns, both to avoid being seen by enemy aircraft and to avoid blinding the pilots as they groped around in the dark. StandardVC10 fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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HEY GUNS posted:it's make-believe but for adults I've always wondered why no HEMA nerds seem to want to practice the proud European martial tradition of shooting indigenous people with muskets and taking their land.
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StandardVC10 posted:while the USAAF's dedicated night fighter, the P-61, was as large as a B-25. The armament on this thing lmao. I'd gotten the impression that the US was very fond of the "just throw more HMGs on aircraft" school of thought. Was the fact that the engagement window at night might be very small indeed the reason that they tossed 4 autocannons on it? Comrade Koba posted:I've always wondered why no HEMA nerds seem to want to practice the proud European martial tradition of shooting indigenous people with muskets and taking their land. I mean, depending on WHO it is you're talking about...
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HEY GUNS posted:this is still around and it is glorious Unless "Naval Supremacy" smells like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier I'm not interested. If it does smell like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier, I'm still not interested.
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oystertoadfish posted:random ww2 question: what was night fighter doctrine, or tactics or whatever? what roles did they play, how did they get to their objective, and how did they go about shooting somebody else down in the dark? how did it change when radar came in, and how did that vary between combatants? i just read in an LP that japan's night fighters didn't get radar till 1945, did other countries start the war with it? I read a memoir by a British pilot, Graham White's Night Fighter over Germany: Flying Beaufighters and Mosquitoes in World War 2, which is a joyous account of too much drinking, a lot of sex, many training accidents, and relatively little about actual night fighter missions. He does talk a little bit about his job as an intruder night fighter. The mission was to fly over occupied Europe and intercept Nazi night fighters before they intercepted the bomber stream. To do this, the navigator-radar operator had a last generation set, because you can't let the Nazis get a cavity magnetron, which had a maximum effective range of maybe 10 km, and a minimum effective range of something like 1 km. So the two of them would be flying along, in a Mossie cockpit so cramped you practically had to be greased in, and the navigator would be reading oscilloscopes and shouting "Left, Up, Left, Right, Down. He's dead ahead! Don't you see him?" And the pilot would be trying to spot flames from engine exhaust so he could make a shot. Meanwhile, the Nazi, who's under some kind of ground controlled intercept, is trying to the same to them.
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Cessna posted:I just got an ad for a "Senator John Mccain Half Dollar Coin Colorized Genuine US Tender" coin. I am a gas station attendant and this is NOT legal tender and I will NOT let you buy "Budlite + Clamato" with it. Comrade Koba posted:I've always wondered why no HEMA nerds seem to want to practice the proud European martial tradition of shooting indigenous people with muskets and taking their land. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rl76rTxIyzI
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Milo and POTUS posted:The armament on this thing lmao. I'd gotten the impression that the US was very fond of the "just throw more HMGs on aircraft" school of thought. Was the fact that the engagement window at night might be very small indeed the reason that they tossed 4 autocannons on it? The US hosed the Hispano up pretty good for the first half of the war so bit the second half they actually started putting it on things. The USAAF was fine with .50s for the most part but the Navy wanted 20mm for most of the war, it just wasn’t worth using for awhile. The Black Widow probably did see value in higher burst mass though, yeah. Mazz fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Comrade Koba posted:Yeah, I'm aware of Swords are cool 
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Because swords are dope
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HookedOnChthonics posted:The best product I ever saw advertised in one of those catalogs was “GI soap,” which offered varieties called things like Victory and Indominable. One of them was described as having “the incredibly manly scents of bergamot and black pepper,” which is I think one of the best progressions of words possible in the English language. I want “oakum”, “creosote”, and “spent gunpowder”.
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Also almost everything else is a giant pain in the neck to spar with. Bayonet fencing has been getting some attention lately, which is something I guess. But swords are dope.
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Feb 1, 2019 09:34
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 This is the cover of the new Chemical Brothers album, it's giving me a real cold war vibe, can anyone guess when/where it was taken?
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Feb 1, 2019 09:40
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It appears to be a Chieftain turret, is driving on the left, and that looks like a fairly typical British motorway
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zoux posted:Do they still make Soldier of Fortune magazine and was it a real thing or just a deal for weird loners to read and feel like hi speed operators Come now, it partially organized the invasion of Dominica 
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Neb had an absolutely amazing post about Nightfighters. Also I offer this equally amazing 1984 Playboy longform piece about what it (allegedly) was like working at Soldier of Fortune Magazine. quote:Was SOF what it purported to be? Was it really the professional journal of questionable adventurers with altered passports, of scarred men of unwholesome purpose who met in the reeking back alleys of Taipei? Of hired murderers who frequented bars in Bangkok where you could get venereal diseases unheard of since the 13th century? Or was it a clubhouse for aging soldiers trying to relive their youth? Or was it, as one fellow in Washington sniffed, “an exploitation rag catering to the down-demo extinction market?” https://fredoneverything.org/life-at-soldier-of-fortune-magazine/
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oystertoadfish posted:i just read in an LP that japan's night fighters didn't get radar till 1945, did other countries start the war with it? Radar was very very new at the time. Radar of a practical size to be put in an aircraft was a British invention traded to the US for military assistance before it had entered the war (see also the jet engine and the beginnings of the atom bomb project) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tizard_Mission
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oystertoadfish posted:random ww2 question: what was night fighter doctrine, or tactics or whatever? what roles did they play, how did they get to their objective, and how did they go about shooting somebody else down in the dark? how did it change when radar came in, and how did that vary between combatants? i just read in an LP that japan's night fighters didn't get radar till 1945, did other countries start the war with it? You ask a mouthful I think the main thing about night fighters is that they flew and engaged on their own; no formations. This was a big positive for the Germans, as it allowed their night fighters to remain effective *long* after other Luftwaffe branches were folded; just off the top of my head early in the morning, I think the raid where the Allied Night Bombers lost the most aircraft on a single raid was in November 1944? Since for the Germans it was bomber vs. fighter, this gave them another advantage as they could use older aircraft that were specialized in bomber-killing. The Bf 110, the Ju 88, and the Do 217 were all effective night fighters into 1944. When it came to combating German night fighters, the Allies used badass late mark Mosquitoes - but these also hunted by themselves. The Germans went through several distinct phases in night fighter defense doctrine, and were very innovative and flexible all things considered. Radar and electronics was a very big thing in this battle, and people have written books on it as it was a long, closely fought battle on both sides. aphid_licker posted:Neb had an absolutely amazing post about Nightfighters.  He 219 part one He 219 part two
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What's better than a Neb effortpost? A two-part Neb effortpost!
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Geisladisk posted:Because swords are dope I mean the posing flexibility of swords are through the roof. Sadly without the bang guns, especially the older ones despite looking baller can only do so much.
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Siivola posted:Also almost everything else is a giant pain in the neck to spar with. Bayonet fencing has been getting some attention lately, which is something I guess. Yeah, swords are dope and safely sparring with poleaxes or similar is rather dubious. To do HEMA I don't need an actual harness and while there might be disagreements on what rules are silly and what are not I have found them consistent so far. I have been to two international competitions and I will attend more of them in the future. I did olympic fencing and kendo for several years and found that I like HEMA (longsword & sidesword, maybe someday sabre) the most.
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https://twitter.com/thinkdefence/status/1091305244963807232 Tag urselfs.
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Yoinking this to add to my "the military gay as hell" evidence locker. It's a very full locker.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:This is the cover of the new Chemical Brothers album, it's giving me a real cold war vibe, can anyone guess when/where it was taken? Yeah, that's a Chieftain somewhere in Britain. The gun doesn't have the MRS mirror on it so that should narrow the date down to late 60s to late 70s. Guessing which motorway is going to be considerably harder, even with the reduced number of motorways in that period, but I'm going to say they're on the M3 going up from Bovington on an exercise because why not?
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:IIRC George Washington's favorite cologne had a dominant bergamot scent to it. They're saying online it was Caswell-Massey Number Six cologne, but I could have sworn I read he mixed up his own with a bergamot/sour orange effect. Yes, it was Caswell-Massey No. 6 and I wear it often. He also gave a case to the Marquis de Lafayette, his biggest fan. Also for famous scents, JFK wore Caswell-Massey Jockey Club.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:
I hope it's a stealth campaign for Battlefield 1982: Malvinas
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Thalantos posted:Yoinking this to add to my "the military gay as hell" evidence locker. my platoon was 20% openly gay and this was before the DADT repeal I always assumed the barracks were a complex mix of gay sex and drama
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Unless "Naval Supremacy" smells like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier I'm not interested. If it does smell like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier, I'm still not interested. "Smells like Mahan's bathtub."
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Comrade Koba posted:Yeah, I'm aware of Blacksmith-Industrial Complex
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bewbies posted:my platoon was 20% openly gay and this was before the DADT repeal Same, even before DADT. Maybe less open about it in front of higher-ups, but the percentage was about the same.
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bewbies posted:my platoon was 20% openly gay and this was before the DADT repeal I mean, I shoulda known something was up when I graduated basic and we all got rainbow ribbons to put on our uniforms
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Unless "Naval Supremacy" smells like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier I'm not interested. If it does smell like the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier, I'm still not interested. Equal parts JP5, paint, old sweaty gym clothes, cooking grease, garbage, recycled air, and farts Really captures that authentic ship feel
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Thalantos posted:Yoinking this to add to my "the military gay as hell" evidence locker.
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