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Ches Neckbeard posted:They're morally bankrupt and really don't give a gently caress. He'll be swimming in hookers and illegal recruiting gifts. So what you are saying is he will be Sgt. Major Booty in a few years?
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Grittybeard posted:Hugh Freeze is not the slimiest thing about Liberty's football program and it's not particularly close. They specifically targeted and hired Baylor's old AD who was there when all of that stuff went down. I didn't know who that was but after googling him, he seems like the perfect fit for Liberty. An awful person and an enormous hypocrite who constantly references Jesus in between his sex worker and bribery scandals
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weird Asian candy posted:So what you are saying is he will be Sgt. Major Booty in a few years? He'll be Commander in Chief Booty
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Anyone got any scouting info on Dax Raymond or Ron’Quavion Travis?
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I wonder how he'd feel about Don Mattingly's sideburns.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:drat hippy kids and their hair imagine this guy giving you advice on your personal appearance 
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Alaois posted:imagine this guy giving you advice on your personal appearance This man's closet inventory is: - Nike polo shirts with school logo x a billion - The same four pairs khaki pants he's been rotating since 2012 - The suit he wears to funerals
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Alaois posted:imagine this guy giving you advice on your personal appearance
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LiquidFriend posted:To be fair, Lock lost the Beebs hairstyle after he left for UCF. I'd bet you that was a thing Derek Dooley told him. And holy poo poo that thing was the first thing to pop up when I loaded this page and it was at full size. Scary. he literally named Heupel as the guy who told him to cut his hair in that video
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can someone who's watched Kyler Murray play in college tell me why he's rated as a first-rounder as a 190-pound QB
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Ironic Twist posted:can someone who's watched Kyler Murray play in college tell me why he's rated as a first-rounder as a 190-pound QB he's fuckin really good at being a quarterback, but very bad at being a large person
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Alaois posted:he's fuckin really good at being a quarterback, but very bad at being a large person IMO if the wrong team drafts him he's going to be ripped in half and eaten like a Kobayashi hot dog
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Ironic Twist posted:IMO if the wrong team drafts him he's going to be ripped in half and eaten like a Kobayashi hot dog Which team is the good team where he won’t be ripped in half?
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For all Kyler Murray questions and future Kyler Murray questions please refer to the million of other Kyler Murray questions already in this thread
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I don't really understand the argument about Murray's build insofar as his ability to hold up to playing in the NFL- is there something to suggest the types of hits that the quarterback takes are the issue here? Because there are a poo poo-load of NFL runningbacks who have the same general dimensions as the 5'10/11", 195 pounds that Murray is listed at: http://pfref.com/tiny/J6j04 I mean just in general using size as a predictor of how someone is going to hold up to the wear and tear of the NFL really just seems like an impossibly crude guesstimate when what you're really worrying about is body mechanic and tendon and ligament flexibility and strength, and that seems pretty far beyond the NFL right now.
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Running backs the players with the shortest careers and are regularly injured
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you have outliers like Darren Sproles who is tiny and somehow still playing with the same speed at the age of 54 but for the most part small running backs don't have the longevity you look for in a franchise QB
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Alaois posted:you have outliers like Darren Sproles who is tiny and somehow still playing with the same speed at the age of 54 but for the most part small running backs don't have the longevity you look for in a franchise QB Feel like a lot of it depends on play style too. Like Devonta Freeman. Tiny, shifty, agile, but also thinks he is a power back and tries (and succeeds) in running through people. Feel like Freeman isn't long for the league with his run style and it is already showing. Guys that last forever don't take kill shots. I remember Marvin Harrison falling down before contact...guys can do it and have long careers they just have to be smart. Sproles seems like another guy who defenders never clean a clean shot on.
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Alaois posted:he literally named Heupel as the guy who told him to cut his hair in that video
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Alaois posted:you have outliers like Darren Sproles who is tiny and somehow still playing with the same speed at the age of 54 but for the most part small running backs don't have the longevity you look for in a franchise QB Sproles is built like a tank. So are Russell Wilson and Maurice Jones-Drew. It's being slender that is the risk. Then again, Eli isn't particularly beefy and he had the consecutive start streak. So who knows?: shrug:
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weird Asian candy posted:Sproles seems like another guy who defenders never clean a clean shot on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWsXhOjcGvM 
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Chichevache posted:Sproles is built like a tank. So are Russell Wilson and Maurice Jones-Drew. It's being slender that is the risk. Then again, Eli isn't particularly beefy and he had the consecutive start streak. So who knows?: shrug: A lot of it is luck. Guys like Eli and Rivers and Peyton and Brady know when a play is dead and just collapse so they don't get killed by the sack.
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I want Lock to go first round cause I want him to be paid. I was conflicted when he came back for his senior year. Also I want him to be drafted by a cool-ish, but not awesome team so I can move his franchise in Madden.
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I think theres a decent argument to be made that the small slender QB risk doesnt matter as much when teams are trying to build "win now" teams on their rookie contracts. The season ending ones sure but accumulated damage probably doesnt factor was much when you expect a 3-4 year window
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I don't really understand the argument about Murray's build insofar as his ability to hold up to playing in the NFL- is there something to suggest the types of hits that the quarterback takes are the issue here? Because there are a poo poo-load of NFL runningbacks who have the same general dimensions as the 5'10/11", 195 pounds that Murray is listed at: There's a huge difference between running at someone and getting tackled as opposed to standing still and getting tackled. Weight distribution and muscle density is hugely important too. Those 5'10 195 RBs pack a ton of lower body and core strength. Pat White was murdered on the field because he was 190 pounds of normal body human body, not muscle. Also there's almost no RBs left in the NFL that are traditional thinner scat backs. Almost every starting RB this year was at least 200 pounds and of the two that weren't (Lindsay and Breida) one was injured constantly throughout the season while the other suffered a season ending injury. Being 190 pounds as opposed to 205 pounds is a huge deal if those 15 pounds are muscle. Like there's a reason why weigh ins exist for boxing and MMA. The best thing going for Murray right now is that it's pretty much illegal to look at a QB in today's NFL.
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Doltos posted:The best thing going for Murray right now is that it's pretty much illegal to look at a QB in today's NFL. On the other hand, he’s black.
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Doltos posted:There's a huge difference between running at someone and getting tackled as opposed to standing still and getting tackled. Weight distribution and muscle density is hugely important too. Those 5'10 195 RBs pack a ton of lower body and core strength. Pat White was murdered on the field because he was 190 pounds of normal body human body, not muscle. Pat White got tripped by a shoe-string tackle into a helmet to helmet hit. It had nothing to do with his weight, unless he somehow could have collected fat or muscle in his body in the fashion of a beluga whale's forehead or something like that. Doltos posted:Also there's almost no RBs left in the NFL that are traditional thinner scat backs. Almost every starting RB this year was at least 200 pounds and of the two that weren't (Lindsay and Breida) one was injured constantly throughout the season while the other suffered a season ending injury. Being 190 pounds as opposed to 205 pounds is a huge deal if those 15 pounds are muscle. Like there's a reason why weigh ins exist for boxing and MMA. Runningback is like one of the only NFL positions that hasn't seen a meaningful increase in size over time: https://deadspin.com/how-have-the-weights-of-nfl-positions-changed-over-time-1545701731 Meanwhile, I don't think the physical trauma even a relatively high volume rushing quarterback receives is really on the face of it comparable to even a change of pack back. Especially when you're talking about a league that punishes defenders for taking shots on quarterbacks, and encourages guys to slide while rushing.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Pat White got tripped by a shoe-string tackle into a helmet to helmet hit. It had nothing to do with his weight, unless he somehow could have collected fat or muscle in his body in the fashion of a beluga whale's forehead or something like that. Weight increase* and according to that article not a lot of positions have either since the early 2000's. Again weight doesn't equal muscles. Pat White woulda died either way.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:I don't really understand the argument about Murray's build insofar as his ability to hold up to playing in the NFL- is there something to suggest the types of hits that the quarterback takes are the issue here? Because there are a poo poo-load of NFL runningbacks who have the same general dimensions as the 5'10/11", 195 pounds that Murray is listed at: QB is not as expendable as RB, and they tend to make $20+ million/year if they are decent. Most RBs make around one-third to one-quarter that. You obviously treat a guy with that kind of importance to the team, and that kind of contract, a little bit differently. For example, if Kirk Cousins got hurt in Minnesota then good luck finding another QB to replace him when he is eating up $28 million of cap. If your RB goes down, you plug in the other guy on your roster.
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Slowpoke! posted:QB is not as expendable as RB, and they tend to make $20+ million/year if they are decent. Most RBs make around one-third to one-quarter that. You obviously treat a guy with that kind of importance to the team, and that kind of contract, a little bit differently. For example, if Kirk Cousins got hurt in Minnesota then good luck finding another QB to replace him when he is eating up $28 million of cap. If your RB goes down, you plug in the other guy on your roster. I'm not saying that you are not taking on any additional risk with Kyler Murray, I just think the risk is overstated and in some respects based on some weird beliefs. I think it's also worth noting that Murray is pretty responsible with regards to his body- he's got no qualms at all about sliding early and often: https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/9/14/17857678/kyler-murray-running-ability-baseball-sliding
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Slowpoke! posted:QB is not as expendable as RB, and they tend to make $20+ million/year if they are decent. Most RBs make around one-third to one-quarter that. You obviously treat a guy with that kind of importance to the team, and that kind of contract, a little bit differently. For example, if Kirk Cousins got hurt in Minnesota then good luck finding another QB to replace him when he is eating up $28 million of cap. If your RB goes down, you plug in the other guy on your roster. They're making $30mil/year now, friend
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Every year there's a discussion on how NFL athletes and 40 times stack up and uh: https://twitter.com/usainbolt/status/1091768056592982017 Usain Bolt ran a 4.22(which is the NFL's "record") in street shoes and sweat pants.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Usain Bolt ran a 4.22(which is the NFL's "record") in street shoes and sweat pants. Hand timed or do they have an electronic setup there?
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