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sleep with the vicious posted:Yeah, Ireland couldn't get anything going on attack. In tight the blitz shut them down, out wide there was always cover, and England's backfield positioning must have been strong because a kick through never looked like a good option. The Irish game is also built around inviting the opposition first receiver to go for a kick with a flat alignment with two players hanging back as sweepers on either side of the defensive line, which rushes as a unit to shut down options. But if you're able to control the rucks and dictate the pace, as well has have an option of linebreakers in the middle of the field, it goes some way in negating that. Think back to last Autumn when the Irish beat the All Blacks. The ABs did recognise this and were dominating the last quarter of the game, but uncharacteristically, lacked the clinical edge that they usually have, struggling to connect the last pass. Ireland's defence falls apart when you've created a situation which negates one sweeper, and you force the other one to have to rush in, or if you're able to get the ball to someone like Tuilagi, Fofana or a fully healthy de Allende - someone who will either break or at the very least, stretch the defensive alignment.
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Good description Vagabundo. The42.ie has two good articles analyzing England's kicking and attack in general - strong analysis of Ireland's poor backfield positioning and England's understanding of manipulating space. https://www.the42.ie/analysis-england-kick-ireland-schmidt-4474432-Feb2019/ https://www.the42.ie/analysis-ireland-england-opening-minutes-4474219-Feb2019/
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Missing Kearney really hurt Ireland, he's one of the best in the world at controlling space in the backfield without any help and they tried to do it with Henshaw, who just doesn't have that experience or skill to pull it off. England saw that and exploited it.
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Vaders Jester posted:Missing Kearney really hurt Ireland, he's one of the best in the world at controlling space in the backfield without any help and they tried to do it with Henshaw, who just doesn't have that experience or skill to pull it off. England saw that and exploited it. Which indicates a crippling lack of depth in key positions. Fullback is one of the most important positions out on the field now and you'd want at least two who can deliver what's needed in the squad.
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Vagabundo posted:Which indicates a crippling lack of depth in key positions. Fullback is one of the most important positions out on the field now and you'd want at least two who can deliver what's needed in the squad. The last 20 minutes of the the Scotland vs Italy game was a pretty stark illustration of 'lack of depth'
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It's definitely England's key strength. They may not have many 10/10 players, but they can keep throwing 7/10 players into the mixer.
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Feb 5, 2019 13:27
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Oh France.quote:Sebastien Vahaamahina: ‘I did not even know I was captain. It was the referee, Wayne Barnes, who came to see me on a penalty to ask me my choice. I told him to address the captain; he said it was me. The staff did not warn me.” https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/sebastien-vahaamahina-i-did-not-even-know-i-was-captain-1.3782033
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Vagabundo posted:Which indicates a crippling lack of depth in key positions. Fullback is one of the most important positions out on the field now and you'd want at least two who can deliver what's needed in the squad. I'd like to see Addison at 15, he's filled Payne's boots for Ulster and Joe seems to like what he offers. 10's more of a concern but we've always known the eggs were in the Sexton basket anyway. Ideally Addison, Larmour, Carbery and both scrumhalves will get a lot of time to see where the team is if they're pushed into starting. If Sexton or Murray are carrying knocks Joe should take the opportunity and throw some of the depth players on in a meaningful game.
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Vagabundo posted:Which indicates a crippling lack of depth in key positions. Fullback is one of the most important positions out on the field now and you'd want at least two who can deliver what's needed in the squad. Probably less lack of depth, they have Larmour and Addison but more of a lack of adaptability in the tactics. Ireland are so used to being able to leave Kearney to just do his thing without needing the 10 to drop back as well that they never tried to fix the issue before the game and took them until half time to shuffle players around to accommodate it.
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Aramoro posted:The last 20 minutes of the the Scotland vs Italy game was a pretty stark illustration of 'lack of depth' I reckon that's more a case of Scotland going "gently caress it" at 33-3 and not paying any attention rather than the players being bad. Rae and Berghan both played very well against NZ last year so it's not like they're poor players, just a massive brain fart across the board.
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MyChemicalImbalance posted:10's more of a concern but we've always known the eggs were in the Sexton basket anyway. I was about to ask if Ireland were dumb enough to exclude Ian McKinley from the 6 Nations squad, then noticed he was not only left out of his country's squad, but had played 20 minutes for Italy a few hours before 
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Vaders Jester posted:Probably less lack of depth, they have Larmour and Addison but more of a lack of adaptability in the tactics. Ireland are so used to being able to leave Kearney to just do his thing without needing the 10 to drop back as well that they never tried to fix the issue before the game and took them until half time to shuffle players around to accommodate it. There may be players with potential, but it definitely does point towards an overreliance on specific individuals. Kieran Read had a quiet year by his lofty standards, but that was largely down to returning from back surgery, and I think long-term, Hansen and Foster will probably look to playing a fullback with a big boot at 14 to complement Ben Smith at 15, like Jordie Barrett or David Havili (both of whom are also viable long-range goalkickers) as they did against Italy to close out 2018. It was actually bizarre and at times infuriating to see them dig their heels in and refuse to acknowledge the value of having someone with a monster boot in the backline, despite the fact that they'd seen England, the Lions and the Springboks benefit from that against the All Blacks over the years. If Nonu does make it into the All Blacks (apparently that's his primary motivation in returning to NZ, and he's evidently in the best shape he's ever been in his career), it could cause problems for Ireland should they meet at the World Cup later this year (barring injury, I'd imagine the midfield selections to be Crotty, Goodhue, and two of Leinert-Brown, SBW, Laumape or Nonu).
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What the gently caress is this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxzu3FVkg5k
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Feb 6, 2019 11:45
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Sponsorship money.
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Your Scotland team to thoroughly Scotland it up against Ireland this week is: 1. Allan Dell 2. Stuart McInally 3. Simon Berghan 4. Grant Gilchrist 5. Jonny Gray 6. Ryan Wilson 7. Jamie Ritchie 8. Josh Strauss 9. Greig "Greeg" Laidlaw (C) 10. Finn Russell 11. Sean Maitland 12. Sam Johnson 13. Huw Jones 14. Tommy Seymour 15. Stuart Hogg (VC) 16. Fraser Brown 17. Jamie Bhatti 18. D'arcy Rae 19. Ben Toolis 20. Rob Harley 21. Ali Price 22. Pete Horne 23. Blair Kinghorn
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Mister Chief posted:What the gently caress is this?    Look how loving serious The Honey Badger is about stopping Superman!
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Tyma posted:
Ah, Mike Harris, a.k.a. exhibit C on why Pat Lam was a loving failing failure at the Blues, due to his inability to see beyond provincial lines. Harris had been tearing it up for Harbour, proving himself to be an invaluable presence at 12, and was a clear shining light in an otherwise dark time for North Harbour supporters. Pat Lam, in the first few years of his tenure as Blues coach, had decided that under no circumstances should anyone not registered to the Auckland Rugby Union be selected unless he had no other option - and even then, he'd only field them grudgingly. Despite Harris making it clear he was one of the best available backline options, Lam was determined to ignore him, resulting in Harris taking advantage of his dual NZ-Australian citizenship and taking up an offer from the Reds. In Lam's final season at the Blues, in 2012, Harris played an instrumental role in beating the Blues at Eden Park.
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Vaders Jester posted:Your Scotland team to thoroughly Scotland it up against Ireland this week is: Kinghorn dropped to the bench after scoring a hat trick. Gotta love the 'Toonie Tombola'.
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HappyCamperGL posted:Kinghorn dropped to the bench after scoring a hat trick. Gotta love the 'Toonie Tombola'. Reckon he's gone for experience with Maitland and as good a hattrick as it was, Ireland are a significant step up from Italy. Kinghorn will be better off the bench and can cover three positions if things go to hell.
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So, Scotland to suffer the wrath of a pissed off Ireland team?
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tarbrush posted:So, Scotland to suffer the wrath of a pissed off Ireland team? Hoping Ireland try too hard and get punished in the first 30 then collapse but sadly I think its going to be an absolute battering,especially with the high winds.
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Feb 9, 2019 14:51
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Ireland are playing Kearney, so the English plan wouldn't work anyway.
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goatface posted:Ireland are playing Kearney, so the English plan wouldn't work anyway. Yeah, like Kearny is not the best Fullback in the world in isolation, but in that Irish team he may well be.
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Feb 9, 2019 15:10
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Apparently attacking the edge of the defence still works through
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This Six Nations is going to provide us with such an awesome Yakkety Sax highlights video.
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tarbrush posted:Lol, more clownball Scotlands defence was working really well, pushing Ireland back. Time to Scotland it up!
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Ireland look thoroughly ordinary but somehow 9 points up, we're doing for peak Scotland.
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Time to see what Joey can do, Kinghorn looks dangerous again.
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This has been a thoroughly engaging half
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tarbrush posted:This has been a thoroughly engaging half It seems the trick against "boring" Irish rugby is to try and make it exciting.
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Aye it's not a high quality game at times but it's been a good watch, Ireland did well holding out at the end of the half but who knows how this second half will go
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It's a great game so far, basically no stoppages, just all action. Scotland really pushing it.
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Could go either way with Carberry on too, he has plenty of potential but it's whether he can put it all together. If Scotland's back row keep the pace up in defense it could be a bit of a battering for him.
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Scotland need to stop being gently caress ups and keep hold of the ball.
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Scotland just their own worst enemies this match. Could have been so different if they’d got a grip
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