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Nessus posted:Just keep listening and don't fight it when the knife comes, your water will serve the tribe That particular part was excellent. It is utter folly to disobey an order from Muad'dib
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SniperWoreConverse posted:I feel like there's some kind of framework that allows you to play arbitrarily-ruled tabletop games online and this can probably hammered into shape so it plays tabletop dune Tabletop simulator on steam has a few versions of it as a mod. No clue if they're any good.
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drunkill posted:Tabletop simulator on steam has a few versions of it as a mod. No clue if they're any good. It's not the kind of game that can be simulated.
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Not directly related to Dune, but I always wondered if there was an opening for some sort of generic tabletop game except on the TV (stuff everyone can see), player tablets (can see their own), and GM tablet (can see everything) app set. App would handle hex placement and simple inventory (I fired an arrow, so now I have arrows--), but the GM login would have the ability to do anything including overriding dice rolls. Would have been useful on one Shadowrun game because we didn't have table space for everyone and that became a pain in the rear end.
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drunkill posted:Tabletop simulator on steam has a few versions of it as a mod. No clue if they're any good. I tired to find a vid of this to see what it would be like instead and I found these nerds who found rpg and Warhammer but dune or something?? There's a lot of no-info blurbs but according to some release by the company I saw it comes out at the beginning of this summer. It's part of a vid where they talk about the other products they're gonna be putting out this year including I guess a lot of localizations for D&D books. He talks about Dune for 7 seconds and only says when it's coming out. After a few more random clicks I found this: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/41139/exclusive-frank-herberts-dune-comes-tabletop quote:As master licensee, GF9 will produce original tabletop games drawing from the extensive DUNE franchise – including printed work by Frank Herbert, Brian Herbert, and Kevin J. Anderson, as well as direct tie-ins with Legendary’s upcoming film directed by Denis Villeneuve The guys who are apparently making this made "the official Kung Fu Panda board game" and "Family Guy: Stewie's Sexy Party Game?" Dunno if they're any good I guess they did star treks and firefly and vampire poo poo of some kind too. Modiphius and Gale Force Nine. Not really in the table top scene.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:like the black israelites who stand on street corners in D.C. and yell about george washington being a black man, i am that but yelling about duncan idaho -- who is a black man, and david lynch (a white supremacist) whitewashed the character. and this is true and canon. His name is "Idaho," his idea of a minority is being Dutch.
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Feb 4, 2019 10:34
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duncan idaho is the libertarian take on the ubermensch, he's a fuckin' white everyman type and a big manly man embodying frank's ideal of masculinityyy and he's suuuuuper white there's no other possible reading here
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basic hitler posted:duncan idaho is the libertarian take on the ubermensch, he's a fuckin' white everyman type and a big manly man embodying frank's ideal of masculinityyy and he's suuuuuper white there's no other possible reading here
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I always kinda saw him as Scottish.
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From his physical description in the books I saw him as vaguely Mediterranean.
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It's right there in the books. He's Karakian. "His black karakul hair."
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:like the black israelites who stand on street corners in D.C. and yell about george washington being a black man, i am that but yelling about duncan idaho -- who is a black man, and david lynch (a white supremacist) whitewashed the character. and this is true and canon.  Ghost Leviathan posted:I always kinda saw him as Scottish. "Idaho’s dark round face turned toward Paul, the cave-sitter eyes giving no hint of recognition, but Paul recognized the mask of serenity over excitement."  
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basic hitler posted:duncan idaho is the libertarian take on the ubermensch, he's a fuckin' white everyman type and a big manly man embodying frank's ideal of masculinityyy and he's suuuuuper white there's no other possible reading here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBdk5hDadYE&t=190s
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SniperWoreConverse posted:The guys who are apparently making this made "the official Kung Fu Panda board game" and "Family Guy: Stewie's Sexy Party Game?" Dunno if they're any good I guess they did star treks and firefly and vampire poo poo of some kind too. Modiphius and Gale Force Nine. Not really in the table top scene. there are pdfs floating around though (disclaimer) i would never advocate violating intellectual property rights of any frank herbert estate or wizards of the coast-owned properties but it's an interesting game. the players take on the role of a retinue (swordmaster, mentat, etc.) in the service of a house minor, which swears fealty to one of the house majors several years before the first novel. you could play a moritani house minor if you wanted to; atreides, harkonnen, wallach, etc. i think it would be kind of interesting to play it out as an atreides ally during the events of the novel, but then suddenly find yourself isolated after the atreides are wiped out.many adventure opportunities that don't take place on arrakis -- although the designers wanted to eventually produce a whole bunch of material on arrakis... and wrote up never-published drafts of adventure ideas... ...which may or may not still be out there BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 16:01 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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still gonna toxx for donald glover. duncan has "feline movements" and is agile and adept compared to the bulky gurney halleck (who is more of the stereotypical swashbuckling swordsman). their different specialties complemented each other when training paul. villeneuve has read the book and gets it. (duncan also has epicanthic eye folds -- another little detail.) villeneuve is also casting actors who are good... basic hitler posted:at doing dark, moody poo poo duncan is fairly young-ish (but older than paul) and glover fits the age range. these studios want to set up a franchise always as well -- think about that.
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Temaukel posted:"Idaho’s dark round face turned toward Paul, the cave-sitter eyes giving no hint of recognition, but Paul recognized the mask of serenity over excitement."
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D. Ebdrup posted:Thufir Hawat is also described as having a dark and seamed face. Morgan Freeman for Hawat.
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Feb 4, 2019 19:33
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Actually Leto is described as having a dark face too if I'm not mistaken. e: "‘It is a cold house,’ she said. She looked at his tallness, at the dark skin that made her think of olive groves and golden sun on blue waters. There was woodsmoke in the gray of his eyes, but the face was predatory: thin, full of sharp angles and panes." Everyone in the book is middle eastern beige/brown. Temaukel fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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Feb 4, 2019 19:35
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Temaukel posted:Morgan Freeman for Hawat.
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D. Ebdrup posted:I thought Morgan Freeman was persona non grata? Last time I mentioned it in the thread, I thought of James Earl Jones. Is he?  , what the gently caress Hollywood.
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Dune, a stern warning about the dangers of race mixing.
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Temaukel posted:Actually Leto is described as having a dark face too if I'm not mistaken. Which probably makes sense for a humanity 10,000 years in the future. Things might be more muddled then.
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Honky Dong Country posted:I want Djimon Honsou in this movie somewhere. He'd be an okay emperor. I don't think the role gives much to work with.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:herbert was a libertarian lmao, no he wasn't you doofus
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Temaukel posted:Morgan Freeman for Hawat. I like Morgan Freeman, but he's super distracting in everything he's in, since all he ever does is being Morgan Freeman.
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Doc Hawkins posted:He'd be an okay emperor. I don't think the role gives much to work with. True, although I could see them expanding it to give us more of a sense of what the rest of the Landsraad are like.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:lmao, no he wasn't you doofus
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Temaukel posted:Actually Leto is described as having a dark face too if I'm not mistaken. or really latin. notice he cast latin guys for leto and paul. isaac is half-guatemalan/cuban and the actor playing paul (timothy something) is french. and jessica is harkonnen who are russian, basically. (soviet industrialists more precise, to herbert's horror as he was a weird 1960s-blend of pacific-northwest libertarian environmentalist; it sorta made sense at the time maybe). denis has actually read the book unlike that hack fraud, david lynch. disclaimer: i am not having a meltdown BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:joe mccarthy was a cousin of his i believe, but "cousin joe" went too far in herbert's view. too big government. From the wikipedia: "Herbert was appalled to learn of McCarthy's blacklisting of suspected Communists from working in certain careers and believed that he was endangering essential freedoms of citizens of the United States." But he was also very critical of both conservatism and liberalism. He is certainly no objectivist, nor ancap. e: BrutalistMcDonalds posted:and jessica is harkonnen who are russian, basically. (soviet industrialists more precise, to herbert's horror as he was a weird 1960s-blend of pacific-northwest libertarian environmentalist; it sorta made sense at the time maybe). Temaukel fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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Temaukel posted:But he was also very critical of both conservatism and liberalism. the book didn't sell particularly well at first and got mixed reviews. analog refused to serialize the sequel. then it took off and became this phenomenon. but the ultimate conclusion is that prescience is a nightmare and the series goes on to end with a libertarian/anarchic scattering out of reach from any centralized authority. BrutalistMcDonalds fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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We've gone over this, he's a conservative environmentalist liberal every-man elitist
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Temaukel posted:Everyone in the book is middle eastern beige/brown. It's this. The majority of people, at least. On the far flung planets? Who knows, it's a big universe. And again, Wes Studi as Thufir Hawat. Shageletic posted:We've gone over this, he's a conservative environmentalist liberal every-man elitist lol
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:joe mccarthy was a cousin of his i believe, but "cousin joe" went too far in herbert's view. too big government. I love the notion that "Opposed Joe McCarthy" = "Libertarian." What?
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Honky Dong Country posted:Wes Studi owns.  Phanatic posted:I love the notion that "Opposed Joe McCarthy" = "Libertarian." What? I think it's one of those labels people throw out when they hear one little thing and it just sticks because it connotes so much.
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Described as having hair like the karakul sheep, I'm comfortable saying Duncan was at least swarthy. I mean, the Atreides are Greek after all. Shaddam had orange hair, but c'mon...Shaddam....
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