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Kaza42 posted:I think KoW would be easier to get into for complete novices, but that Warmaster is the better game overall. Revolution made some changes in that if you fail an order, the unit can at least move at half speed. It lessens the "my army is stuck on this side of the table for two turns" that I tend to run into.
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By the way, did GW remove "1s always miss" from Necro? Bullshit if true, since it's not hard for some champs/gangs to get a near perma 1+.
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Jan 30, 2019 12:48
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JcDent posted:By the way, did GW remove "1s always miss" from Necro? Bullshit if true, since it's not hard for some champs/gangs to get a near perma 1+. quote:A ‘natural’ roll is the actual number rolled on a dice, Although there's nothing in the shooting rules that says anything about a natural 1. Assume it's an oversight.
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Jan 30, 2019 13:19
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If someone has a 1+ and rolls a 1 they should successfully shoot themselves imo
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Jan 30, 2019 14:32
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glitchkrieg posted:Although there's nothing in the shooting rules that says anything about a natural 1. Assume it's an oversight. Yeah, I don't even see this as an issue. Anyone who rolls a 1 and claims a hit can be easily ostracised or beaten with a sock full of metal 80s models by their fellows. It is surprisingly easy to maintain a 2+ to hit with champions after an advance and a sight purchase. Doubly so for Van Saar, drat their oily hides.
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Speaking of Warmaster, how does it play? I'm familiar with Warhammer Fantasy and Kings of War, if those two reference points are helpful. I've got a Joan of Arc kickstarter coming at some point, so I'll be awash with sweet 10mm knights.
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Thundercloud posted:Getting official minis is the issue. FTFY Also, if you're really looking to pick up GW Warmaster stuff, there are a couple of facebook groups that often buy and sell those, some of whom were even old GW employees themselves. Outside of that, there's the various threads over on the Specialist Arms forum asking about proxies and alternate miniatures, which are varying amounts of helpful depending upon which army you're looking to start with. Like you mentioned, there's Kallistra and Pendraken, but I've also personally used both Eureka and Copplestone and were quite happy with the results from both. There's actually a decent amount of 10mm fantasy manufacturers out there now, though, so you're not just locked into "GW or bust". I know I've said this before, but as long as both you and your opponent know what each unit or character is supposed to be, there shouldn't be too much of an issue using a variety of manufacturers (just do keep scale in mind, as IIRC some Pendraken and Kallistra stuff is 12mm, not 10mm).
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Following the weekend's games of Necromunda, I spent some of my winnings on new guns and specifically scopes for guns, also redistributing equipment from a recently departed Juve. Prepare for poorly produced pictures! The 4 gangers who received an upgrade  My champion 'Crispy' got a new scoped boltgun while one of my gangers, 'Handsome' Hugh, put a scope on his autogun.  'Shades' Mackenna, who is sort of the gang bombardier and an absolute hero in every game, received the sword of poor dead Other Larkin. He can hopefully use it to avenge him against the Escher, or more realistically, use the parry rule to try and avoid being sliced up in close combat. 'Ugly' Robb, the gang sniper, put an infra sight onto his long rifle.  I had a surprisingly good time adding bits or altering my models to respond to campaign events. Going to add a couple cyber mastiffs at the next opportunity, painting the models now. Got 3 games booked in around next weekend!
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I bought some of the Anvil Miniatures scopes and optics, have had some fun putting them on my guys. I need to find a way to build a Van Saar with a long-las/long rifle as that’s a weapon option you can’t get from the forge world upgrades. Already built a Boltgun ganger although I keep spending my creds on other stuff 
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ineptmule posted:I bought some of the Anvil Miniatures scopes and optics, have had some fun putting them on my guys. I need to find a way to build a Van Saar with a long-las/long rifle as that’s a weapon option you can’t get from the forge world upgrades. Already built a Boltgun ganger although I keep spending my creds on other stuff I think Anvil has a p.deece sniper rifle?
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susan posted:Played Killteam for the first time today. It was... an experience. I did pretty well in a local stores KT league with Orks, playing against mostly different flavoured Marines With Orks in KT you need volume of shots to do in most Marine Equivalents a bunch of shoota boyz put a bunch of shots out while your opponents try to close in, and they're still pretty rough in close combat. -Take a Kommando nob and give him the Powerklaw, make him a Combat Specialist, 4 attacks 4+ str10 Ap-3(?) D3 to guarantee getting to an injury roll. Biggest Marine Killer on my team -Taking a Nob with Kombi/Skortcha and hitting him with Dakka Dakka so he gets 4 rounds of shooting is awesome 2x2 shoota + 2xD6 Skortcha should do something. Don't forget your dudes have assault weapons so you can run all over the place and are probably always hitting on 6s, so don't worry about negatives to hit. Second biggest Marine Killer on my team. -Take Big shootas to draw fire, they're barely better then shoota boys but people are afraid of big weapons. -A burna boy is Ok in Melee, and OK in shooting, you probably don't need more than one, but a fanatic burna boy is good fun. +1 attack +1 str on charge with an ap-2 boy is a good time. -Don't make your Nob or Big shootas specialists, so that their kills make your boyz level up. -Take 1 loota and a Spanner, make the spanner your comms dude, to give your loota +1 to attack, and you've got a bit of a heavy weapons battery. -Gnasher squig is 2 command point 50% for a mortal wound, it's swell against heavily armoured one wound dudes. -Make your leader a grot and hide them in the backfield. I've only lost my grot leader once. -Tie people up with Boyz then charge in with their buddies, don't forget about piling in and consolidating around guys to prevent them from running away. -If not Dakka Dakking save command points for injury rerolls particularly against Armoured dudes.
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ineptmule posted:I bought some of the Anvil Miniatures scopes and optics, have had some fun putting them on my guys. I need to find a way to build a Van Saar with a long-las/long rifle as that’s a weapon option you can’t get from the forge world upgrades. Already built a Boltgun ganger although I keep spending my creds on other stuff I suppose you could stick the barrel of a GW sniper rifle (the ones from SM Scouts are quite common) onto the base Van Saar lasgun? Boltguns are sweet, but if anything the Dominion campaign has shown us just how much effect you can add with enough credits. I assume all your VS wear mesh armour added to their starting undersuits, but the best other things we have found are Cyber-arachnids (a steal for 75 credits) and the stacking of saves with energy shields.
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Team_q posted:I did pretty well in a local stores KT league with Orks, playing against mostly different flavoured Marines Thank you  ! I shall Green Tide my foes well with this information :P .
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I finally managed to get a game of Blood Bowl in yesterday. We realised during the game that it had taken us about 2 hours to play the first half, because each of us kept misremembering different rules so we had to keep looking stuff up. We both agreed this time we'll definitely play more regularly so the rules are fresh, and maybe do 4 minute turns! Also Orcs vs. Lizardmen was bash city. 2 deaths and 4 other injuries during the first half.
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Another terrific Necromunda campaign last night - straightforward zone mortalis fight against our Goliath player. I won in the end, but those guys are tough! He very sensibly had a lot of grenades and 2 grenade launchers, blasts are really good in my opinion, but he was unlucky with wounding. Playing again this morning, trying the caravan heist scenario. Both my gang and the arbitrator’s Van Saar, whom I’m facing, are over 2000 gang rating. So yeah, the Dominion format needs reining in probably, but it’s going to be a fun game. Seriously the arbitrator loves it. He had us ‘investing’ in a random stocks and shares table of hive themed companies. Trying to make all our gangs (including his own) as terrifying as possible.
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Warlord resin Quake Cannon and Macro Gatling Blaster weapons, new plastic buildings and transfers all coming soon for AT. The main AT presentation is tomorrow morning so hopefully they have a bit more to show.    
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Feb 2, 2019 13:24
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Wall of text incoming- a summary of the AT seminar posted on B&C:quote:Upcoming releases; Selling out a projected year's worth of stock in a month or two is hopefully less about SG's competence and more about the games popularity. I only hope they're able to actually fill the current void and support the game properly.
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Nice. Thanks for the info!
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quote:If they did an Imperator it would be about the size of the 40k scale Reaver.... don’t hold your breath. That seems insanely wrong.
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Any idea if the necromunda gang boxes have any spare heads in them? Wanna use a Escher one for something and also use it as an excuse to get the box !
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I don’t have the technical nous to show it all here directly, but a similar truck load of info, including concep art and a couple pics of future models, was shown for Necromunda yesterday. Really exciting looking stuff ahead!by.a.teammate posted:Any idea if the necromunda gang boxes have any spare heads in them? Wanna use a Escher one for something and also use it as an excuse to get the box ! I believe they do have more heads than the box requires.
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adamantium|wang posted:Wall of text incoming- a summary of the AT seminar posted on B&C: I thought this game was doa and abandoned per the comments in this thread
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im glad ATs getting lots of planned support Might be able to convince some friends to get into it now
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AT always had 2 years of releases planned. If anything they might have sped up the schedule a bit.
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beergod posted:I thought this game was doa and abandoned per the comments in this thread I think they made a mistake with the contents of the big box. It's a fairly hefty purchase to make and from memory there was a bit of a delay with even getting other titans out, let alone weapon variants. A mirror match is always a bit boring but was also not helped by the fact that a banner of three Knights is easily shot off the board by a Belicosa and the Warlords in the box came with two each. You see the few batreps up on YouTube all quickly descending into two Warlords standing still and intellectually firing at each other for 4 turns after the Knights are obliterated, with maybe one of them exploding because they'd pushed their reactor far too hard. It's only recently I feel that we've finally got an actual game on our hands, and hopefully better supply and deeper support will see a resurgence.
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The game is the WRONG SCALE I don't think anyone understands.
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Nothing too new for Necro. I'm just mad that they're doing nearly useless Hired Guns instead of Brutes.             Apparently, we'll be getting models for Juvies and Specialist Champs, whatever that is?        
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That seems insanely wrong. Yeah I get the impression they're exaggerating a bit. Still would be pretty huge though, most likely 40k Acastus Knight or Warhound scale. I'd love to see a modern take on the Imperator as the model would look fantastic, but I'm not sure it would work well with the current AT rules. It would skew things in the same way as bringing a titan to a 40k game.
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If Juves are getting neat plastic models, I hope there's more incentive to take them in the future.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:If Juves are getting neat plastic models, I hope there's more incentive to take them in the future. EDIT: From the seminar - they're adding something called prospects - which are juves that have to something crazy to earn a place in the gang. They showed concept art of a goliath juve with an arc welder which was described as as likely to kill its user as his targets. That sounds neat. I'm curious as to how they're going to do juves. A box each for the gangs? A box of dude juves and dudette juves with head options to represent that they ain't full on gang members? First option would be fine if not for the fact that we get one release every 2-3 months and thats over a year of juves. I'm planning on running a campaign in the second half of the year so it would be great if they had released some by them (or just the goliaths, as thats what im planning on playing)  My friend has been working on terrain for our current kill team games which should do quite nicely. Disappointed they didn't reveal which Bloodbowl team is next. MrFlibble fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Feb 4, 2019 |
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MrFlibble posted:Disappointed they didn't reveal which Bloodbowl team is next. There's another studio preview event at the LVO this week. I expect we'll see details about the next BB and Necro waves.
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JcDent posted:Nothing too new for Necro. I'm just mad that they're doing nearly useless Hired Guns instead of Brutes. I was really excited to see all this stuff. Partly for what's in there (I like that Ammo Jack) but even more just because it shows they will continue to support Necromunda and are brimming with new ideas. New, plastic champion and juve kits could be very cool. MrFlibble posted:EDIT: From the seminar - they're adding something called prospects - which are juves that have to something crazy to earn a place in the gang. They showed concept art of a goliath juve with an arc welder which was described as as likely to kill its user as his targets. That sounds neat. I agree with the point discussed that Juves should be a bit better (in how they develop if not in their starting stats) as well as getting models. That is some terrific terrain though! My group's Necromunda campaign continues apace. I played the Van Saar player/arbitrator over the weekend in Caravan Heist (alongside a couple other games). We found it a fantastic mission which gave us some interesting objectives beyond 'kill them' and incentivised both gangs to try and stick around, not just bottle once it was clear they wouldn't win. I was the attacker and managed to pull out the win against a sticky start. The highlights: My opponent has a custom model representing a guilder's carriage, which we used as the caravan. Very cool. It has a plasma cannon modelled on the top. Also cool. My opponent very politely asked me if he could use this as a weapon, to be fired by a model mounted on the carriage each turn. Fine, that's cool. Now he has the plasma cannon (being fired by a hive scum) alongside his other plasma cannon (being fired by one of his champions) rolling down the centre of the table. Bit of a problem! I set some guys up near the far board edge, where the caravan needed to head off, and one group either flank, aiming to catch him in the old pincer movement. We both had fighters down during the initial exchange of fire while my two 'assault groups' closed in on the flanks. He seemed to be having the best of it and I wasn't too optimistic. By maybe round 3, one group was closing in on the caravan. drat thing moves 6" a turn, no way to stop it, so the danger in trying to attack from the sides is it just blows past you! My other flanking group was bogging down with combat and wouldn't be in position, the far group was looking pretty well outshot, so it was all on these guys. My opponent won priority and aimed his overcharged plasma cannon at short range, looking to wipe both my fighters off the map. Of course he's Van Saar, so 2+ to hit . . . rolls a 1. The blast scatters straight back onto his champ, fortunately he rolls a 1 to wound:  Now it's my activation. One of my men on the spot is my original blasting charges carrier. I had just bought him a demo charge. Time to use it. Took aim, hurled the charge, took out 2 models and downed a third straight off. My champion, the other half of this group activation, charges the remaining active Van Saar in the vicinity and guts him. Hurrah!  Now it all starts to swing my way. Some of his key guys are down, I've still got decent models on his flanks tying up his remaining firepower, and suddenly I've got guys either side of the caravan, frantically sprinting to loot it as it drives down the centre of the board.  Got away with loads of loot in the end. Could have had even more by RAW but once I'd passed the victory threshold (10 loot actions completed) we called it. I made 490 credits including all my normal post game income! I needed that cash infusion, because I had 2 gangers OOA and they both ended up dying! The first one succumbed to his injuries a couple rounds after being shot - fair enough, rolled 66 for injuries. The second, I jumped off a bridge to join in the looting quickly. He went down. Then he succumbed. Rolled a critical injury. Took him to the doc. The doc killed him. Now that is also fair enough, but it's the second time in 2 games, and it's the same bloody model (I 'replaced' the previous victim by transferring kit). Either my long rifle ganger model is cursed, or I just need a new doc! So there has been some growth in the Lead Farmers. Almost all my earnings from that game went on one superb new champion, a model with a heavy bolter, full servo-harness and mono sight (and armoured undersuit). He's 485 points! Will post pictures once I'm done painting him, very proud of my conversion, but visible below on the far right:  I also painted the new power sword and cyber hound of my close-combat champion, Blindside Bill:   And I upgraded the chainsword on my leader Mad Dog (now counts as a chain axe), he received a cyber hound as well. drat Van Saar spider spinal-injuried the poor mutt in that Caravan Heist, I had to buy it a bionic skeleton!  In summary, Necromunda is great and we all need more of it.
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Played my first Takeover match yesterday and lost. My chemflamer ganger got captured again (after being taken out by a charging Van Saar high on Combat Drugs card). My opponent failed to wound me with Melta twice in a row. He has the "make guns cool, but unstable" territory, so he lost two guys to Lasgun explosions (I only took out one). My Leader's bolter ran out of ammo as soon as she arrived on the table. My rogue doc rolled a 6 to heal my CI'd ganger. I rolled 30 creds between mission rewards and two Settlements that I have. I'm now at 35. My two gangers leveled-up and rolled Willpower or Int increase. My -1 T Youth got +1T. All in all, Necromunda would be better with some tighter rules (can you charge into smoke? Where did "always miss on 1" go? Who thought those two "lol, remove ganger from game" cards were a good idea? Do sentries spot if critically wounded?) and territory balancing, yeah.
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I'm starting a Necromunda campaign with some friends this month, excited as gently caress. We all used to play warhams together in high school and this is our first time moving plastic mans around in like a decade so we're all absolutely thrilled (plus thank God for skirmish games and their ability to be manageable for people with jobs and families). I'm one or two painting sessions away from finishing my Escher gang too, I'll post them in this thread as soon as they're done! So, question for the Necromunda vets of the thread: what are some good tactics against Cawdor? The internet says they're a weak gang, but the guy playing them in my group is really good at strategy/tactics games so it'll definitely still be a challenge. From reading the rulebook and our early skirmish games I have a decent grasp on fighting conventionally shooty gangs, but the sheer amount of firey template weapons he's going to be fielding frankly scares me, especially being a CC gang.
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JcDent posted:Player removal cards We just banned them and removed them from the decks. They are dreadful.
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Yeah, those cards are under fierce debate in the campaign at my club (that I'm not taking part in, boooo).
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