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Squalid posted:When I see the absolutely nonsensical debate over brexit I am reminded of this conversation. That maybe it is driven by a desire to reassert the fading Imperial glory, and a refusal to accept Britain's relegation to a bit player in history. I just hope people can learn their lesson and come to their senses without too much self inflicted injury.
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Vitamin P posted:Unironically put your cis white het male privilege aside for a moment and think about what happened in 2015, and why some minority groups might find that more threatening than you do. people who actually think the things you're pretending to think don't say it like this
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Feb 5, 2019 00:38
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Raskolnikov38 posted:regardless the implication is that british jews supported leave because of anti-muslim feelings correct? Yeah to stop the dicking about that literally is the case, but you've rhetorically reversed it. British and European Jews are concerned about the anti-jewish feelings from migrants, not exclusively islamic migrants btw, and from the far-right backlash to the migration crisis. Basically the two groups of shitheads that hate jews are neo-nazis and islamists, after 2015 the threat of islamists suddenly and significantly grew, in 2016 the nationalist neo-nazi response suddenly and significantly grew to become a new threat, and the EU is functionally fostering both groups because it will foster anything as long as its focused on social issues instead of attacking neoliberalism. Honestly wherever you stand on the political spectrum, unless you are a Guardian writer I guess, the sudden reversal of british jews opinion of the EU is not an illogical thing. Vitamin P has issued a correction as of 00:46 on Feb 5, 2019 |
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Feb 5, 2019 00:44
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Der Meister posted:somebody explain to me for the fifth time why corbyn doesn’t just outright say he opposes brexit...? something another a referendum and will of the people despite the referendum being a bare majority and fatally flawed. ijdfgi Have a read of all that stuff upthread about self-pity and exceptionalism.
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Feb 5, 2019 00:45
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Vitamin P posted:Yeah to stop the dicking about that literally is the case, but you've rhetorically reversed it. British and European Jews are concerned about the anti-jewish feelings from migrants, not exclusively islamic migrants btw, and from the far-right backlash to the migration crisis. goddamm you're an idiot
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Feb 5, 2019 00:46
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FMguru posted:I have a pet theory - old people have always complained about how things are changing and nothing is as good as the good old days and resent the fact that time has passed them by. The problem in the current moment is the size of the baby boom. We've never had such a large cohort of people turn old and cranky and bitter at the same time before. Brexit is a typical Old Person Shitfit, made unusually powerful by the fact that there's currently such a huge number of old people (same thing is happening in the USA w/Trump). This is their one last chance to spit back at a world that is increasingly moving past them, and alas because of the demographic bulge, they got their wish. Sigh. also while society used to have children “act up” as adults as soon as they arrived at their teens, the average 16 year old has never been more educated and they’re all currently disenfranchised despite having the most vested interest in the direction of society
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Der Meister posted:somebody explain to me for the fifth time why corbyn doesn’t just outright say he opposes brexit...? something another a referendum and will of the people despite the referendum being a bare majority and fatally flawed. ijdfgi because he doesn't oppose brexit and the whole plan has always been to drag him there by pointing out that it's loving impossible we've reached the bit where he himself is very clearly on board with no brexit > no deal and is more and more forward about this but he's now lagging behind public mood and, unfortunately, he doesn't give a gently caress about that Willie Tomg posted:people who actually think the things you're pretending to think don't say it like this the piece of poo poo who defended cov students is telling the jewish guy how to be jewish, I'm shocked e; it took me longer to write that post than it took for vitamin P to take off the mask, ignite it, and throw it on someone's lawn. nice.
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Feb 5, 2019 00:50
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Feb 5, 2019 00:54
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Vapor Moon posted:The Brits are pretty bad at this politic thing we still got a queen lol
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Al! posted:the growing threat of islamists luckily the right wing has never threatened judai*a cartoon cane hooks me out of the Submit Post field to everyone's general relief*
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Jel Shaker posted:I think it’s been noted that the geographic picture of brexit is a bit skewed though, like while the north had more areas voting 50%+ for brexit, it was the south east that provided the most votes by volume should I pull up a population density map to weigh this post or what
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Spangly A posted:the piece of poo poo who defended cov students is telling the jewish guy how to be jewish, I'm shocked I'm not even slightly telling jewish people how to be jewish, I'm just taking seriously that european jews are leaving their homes either for israel or for rural areas and considering why british jews apparently strangely voted to leave the EU. I wear no mask online my friend, I am more than open to arguments telling me why I'm a dumb twat, although if the arguments begin and end with 'you're a dumb twat' thats obviously just silliness. And unironically I take the protection of multiculturalism and meaningful religious freedom more seriously than you do.
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Feb 5, 2019 01:04
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https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1092120538259038209 lol at least the guy in 100% Tweed Overload was actually in the war and not just bullshit boomer reminiscences
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Feb 5, 2019 01:07
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Vitamin P posted:I'm not even slightly telling jewish people how to be jewish, I'm just taking seriously that european jews are leaving their homes either for israel or for rural areas and considering why british jews apparently strangely voted to leave the EU. gently caress off you idiot if anyone is actually wondering about that graph, it's probably because a lot of british jews, just like a lot of other british people, are conservative
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Feb 5, 2019 01:10
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NoneMoreNegative posted:https://twitter.com/bbcarchive/status/1092120538259038209 lol this is the essence of brexit. My favorite is the guy at 0:35: "And I fink, you know, we're an island on our own, you know, and let's face it. We once ruled the world didn't we? You know, and now we're just being part of a community. I don't agree with it at all." Can't very well have England being part of a community now can we.
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Feb 5, 2019 01:24
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Coohoolin posted:gently caress off you idiot hurf durf yeah probably, events are a figment shared experience is a spook stupid twat (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Feb 5, 2019 01:27
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Vitamin P posted:I'm not even slightly telling jewish people how to be jewish, I'm just taking seriously that european jews are leaving their homes either for israel or for rural areas and considering why british jews apparently strangely voted to leave the EU. lmao
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Feb 5, 2019 01:31
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Squalid posted:lol this is the essence of brexit. It's like how in WWII the British knew they were going to get pretty much cucked by the USA and Soviet Union after WWII. Know you have all these Leave loser imaging that Brexit will somehow rebuild the noble british empire.
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Feb 5, 2019 01:34
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Squalid posted:I'm reminded of something a Yorkie coworker once told me several years ago. He was looking a bit morose, and when I asked him what was on his mind he said "England doesn't have any action heroes anymore." I thought this was funny because his nickname was The Transporter for his resemblance to Jason Statham. It seemed to me like he was troubled by long term decline of UK cultural, economic, and military global dominance, and what that implied about his own place in the world and identity as an Englishman. That scene in the first Transporter movie where topless Jason Statham slides around the floor of a garage lubed up in crude oil, while shooting and punching and kicking all the hapless evil Eurogoon henchmen is peak Brexit.
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Feb 5, 2019 01:42
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etalian posted:It's like how in WWII the British knew they were going to get pretty much cucked by the USA and Soviet Union after WWII.
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Elevator Screamer posted:That scene in the first Transporter movie where topless Jason Statham slides around the floor of a garage lubed up in crude oil, while shooting and punching and kicking all the hapless evil Eurogoon henchmen is peak Brexit. makes me think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgDoPvr3VT4
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Feb 5, 2019 01:51
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SardonicTyrant posted:Sunless Skies is a documentary about Britain's adamant refusal to play nice with others. lol
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Jose posted:us being in the EU had absolutely nothing to do with austerity being policy here. we're not in the euro lol the uk really does want to be worse than america
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Feb 5, 2019 01:59
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Scottish independence to become a progressive EU country in line with the democratic will of the Scotchland people. NI reunites with the rest of Ireland in line with the democratic will of the Norn Irish people. England remains alone eating tripe and watching 50 channels of Keeping Up Appearances and Dad's Army repeats forever, secure and proud in their independence as they wrestle pigs in a mud pit for control of the last sovereign potato.
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Elevator Screamer posted:Scottish independence to become a progressive EU country in line with the democratic will of the Scotchland people. NI reunites with the rest of Ireland in line with the democratic will of the Norn Irish people. England remains alone eating tripe and watching 50 channels of Keeping Up Appearances and Dad's Army repeats forever, secure and proud in their independence as they wrestle pigs in a mud pit for control of the last sovereign potato. Scotland creates a Black Douglas clone and unleashes it on the now weakened British.
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:looking forward to the Royal Navy resuming the ancient policy of impressment to deal with shortages after the brexit hopefully the chavs are well enough fed to outrun the impressment gangs this time around you guys still give lashes for sodomy or is it just leering at your betters that's punishable?
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Feb 5, 2019 02:24
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Vitamin P posted:Yeah to stop the dicking about that literally is the case, but you've rhetorically reversed it. British and European Jews are concerned about the anti-jewish feelings from migrants, not exclusively islamic migrants btw, and from the far-right backlash to the migration crisis. Jexit
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Feb 5, 2019 02:32
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since it looks like a bunch of london voted remain it should split off from the uk and become cloudy singapore
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Feb 5, 2019 02:34
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Vitamin P posted:Yeah to stop the dicking about that literally is the case, but you've rhetorically reversed it. British and European Jews are concerned about the anti-jewish feelings from migrants, not exclusively islamic migrants btw, and from the far-right backlash to the migration crisis. Lol
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Feb 5, 2019 02:36
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So Brexit is about England's inability to come to terms with its decline.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:So Brexit is about England's inability to come to terms with its decline. kinda like how boomers in the us never got over losing vietnam
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Feb 5, 2019 02:55
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:So Brexit is about England's inability to come to terms with its decline. 100%. There is far too many people who think it's still 1911 and the UK is a world power with an Empire spanning most of the globe rather than a small barely second tier power with an aircraft carrier without any planes. Most of them weren't even alive when India became independent but hey, who lets reality get in the way?
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im sure vitamin ps thoughtful consideration of muslim immigration in europe and the terrors of encroaching shariah in london are compassionately based in concern for jewish people and not simple gammon-brained racism
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Raskolnikov38 posted:well somebody had to win in your civil wars I don’t believe my country has ever had a civil war.
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Ayn Randi posted:im sure vitamin ps thoughtful consideration of muslim immigration in europe and the terrors of encroaching shariah in london are compassionately based in concern for jewish people and not simple gammon-brained racism jews are leaving their homes for fascist ethnostates. maybe we could learn something from that phenomenon, says the boy who is not attempting to steer the conversation in any one direction or other.
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Al! posted:the growing threat of islamists this is what the English actually believe
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Relevant Tangent posted:this is what the English actually believe  this was actual material produced and distributed by the pro-leave campaign during the referendum. and this  and this 
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Yowsers that's a good infographic Edit: Even there being more male than female figures in the little bubble coming over *kisses fingers like an Italian chef*
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