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Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Just tried the Nobodies start for the first time since the beta, is it supposed to spawn you in the middle of Venge? Seems a bit cruel.

Edit: Also, gonna try a Shek only run. No Stealth, no ranged, just pure melee and MA.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Feb 2, 2019

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Fewd
Mar 22, 2007

#vmp #opsec #kolmiloikka #happoo

Wow Bagger posted:

I knocked out a high inquisitor and put him in the prison tower in Squin for the bounty. Later the game sent a wrath of god event at me and picked him to lead it. So all the paladins and inquisitors spawned beside him in the prison tower and promptly started raising hell.

Game is a bit wonky regarding named boss npc's and trash that spawns with them. Similar thing happened to me some time ago when raiding Black Dragon ninja dudes tower. As long as the boss was alive and at tower, even though he was unconscious and being carried by my guys, it kept respawning more Black Dragons at the tower. Which was somewhat annoying as I was trying to rest there and twice I got a huge load of dudes spawning on top of me out of nowhere. But I suppose they were sort of ninjas so maybe they were in the walls, mugs and door knobs, who knows

Bussamove
Feb 25, 2006

Picked up this game on a whim, went out into the horrible wilderness with myself and some goober I found in the Hub to set up an outpost and mine stone.

That... didn’t end well. I guess I should stick closer to town for a bit until I can afford a few more recruits. :v:

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?

Broken Cog posted:

Just tried the Nobodies start for the first time since the beta, is it supposed to spawn you in the middle of Venge? Seems a bit cruel.

Edit: Also, gonna try a Shek only run. No Stealth, no ranged, just pure melee and MA.

It doesn't always do it, but when it does its kinda funny

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

Broken Cog posted:


Crumblejohn has some... interesting dialogue.

From a few pages ago, but how does one bring up a dialogue box? I can't seem to find a control for it anywhere.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

kedo posted:

From a few pages ago, but how does one bring up a dialogue box? I can't seem to find a control for it anywhere.

Push M for the map, hit the dialogue tab.

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

Thanks!

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost
Man, wtf why do I have negative 2 billion dollars now? :mad:

Gorgeous Mohammad
Oct 15, 2009
I remember seeing someone find a bugged string of cats that set their money to negative. You might have picked one up.

Reign Of Pain
May 1, 2005

Nap Ghost

Gorgeous Mohammad posted:

I remember seeing someone find a bugged string of cats that set their money to negative. You might have picked one up.

I remember picking one up now that said it gave me 0 cats....maaaaan.....thats a buncha time

Gadzuko
Feb 14, 2005

Reign Of Pain posted:

I remember picking one up now that said it gave me 0 cats....maaaaan.....thats a buncha time

That should be fixable using Cheat Engine if you're so inclined. I haven't actually tried using it on Kenshi yet but it doesn't seem like it should be too difficult.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
I see people say that heavier Heavy Weapons takes a higher strength to use effectively. Is there a certain threshold chart for Strength/Weight you should have to use a HW optimally?

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
You generally want double the strength of the weight of the weapon

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Herstory Begins Now posted:

You generally want double the strength of the weight of the weapon

That's something to start with at least, cheers. Is there a chart for this somewhere?

Dire Lemming
Jan 19, 2016
If you don't coddle Nazis flat Earthers then you're literally as bad as them.
I'm pretty sure it's literally just if you have less than 2x the weight in strength you get an attack speed penalty.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Then I'll go by that, cheers!

I was wondering why the Exile Plank seemed kinda mediocre.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Leal posted:

Speaking of stats, do they have any effect after 99? I assume the cap in leveling is 99. And if I were to wear something that puts my stats at or above 99, would that effectively lock my training in that stat? I'm at like 93 stealth but wearing some gear that sets me to around 102, haven't really budged on the xp bar despite constantly stealthing around raids to steal all their gear.
Yes,they do have an effect. Stats and skills scale effectively infinitely. If you had, say, a science skill of one million, you could research every tech in the game within seconds. The 99 limit is a soft cap; once you get past it, you actually start to level up normally again.

It can be unpredictable, though. Try to prospect with a science skill of more than a thousand and your game crashes, because the game can't handle a prospecting image that big.

Also, it makes you huge. Like xyber huge. It's kind of hilarious to see your guys turn into the Hulk.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Gorrillo bandits are so funny

ME SMASH TINY

Ok big guy, ok

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
Does strength increase the overall swing speed of Heavy Weapons past the no-penalty limit of 2x weapon weight? Also, how does Falling Sun factor into this, considering it says it needs Dexterity as well?

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Broken Cog posted:

Does strength increase the overall swing speed of Heavy Weapons past the no-penalty limit of 2x weapon weight?
No, it doesn't. You won't attack at light speed even with a strength of 5000, I just tried. There is a clear upper boundary, although I don't know the precise numbers.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

Cardiovorax posted:

No, it doesn't. You won't attack at light speed even with a strength of 5000, I just tried. There is a clear upper boundary, although I don't know the precise numbers.

Thanks for checking it out. Bit of a shame, but I suppose it makes sense, balance wise.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Broken Cog posted:

Thanks for checking it out. Bit of a shame, but I suppose it makes sense, balance wise.
FWIW, look at my previous post. Skill scaling is a bit unevenly applied - you would get bonus damage for every one of those 5000 points in strength, so it still helps.

VVVV In this case it comes to the same thing, the cap still exists.

Cardiovorax fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Feb 3, 2019

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
It's dex that helps you swing faster, strength just lets you swing without penalties.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I had a fog men attack and Holy Nation assault happening at once. The fog men breached the walls, I mostly fought off the first wave but then the second one came in. They knocked out everyone, minus the 3 mounted crossbow people on the roofs. As they dragged 3 party members off the holy assault came in, annoyingly they calmly ran past the retreating fog men, but they started fighting the fog men once they got inside the base. They were too busy with one another to take out the people on the crossbows, eventually ending with both sides down. I slowly recoup the people still in the base and begin looting.

Meanwhile I'm rushing my ninjas back to the foglands to bust out my prisoners. Thankfully the fog men decided to munch on various holy men first, managed to bust the captured people out and set them back in mongrel to heal up. Intense stuff, but I like how even though I "lost" that fight I can easily recoup and actually be stronger for it due to the skills earned during the fights and the toughness gains from getting beaten up.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
My all Shek, all-heavy weapons crew is turning out to be surprisingly effective. Turns out being able to do massive sweeping strikes is pretty useful against the groups of enemies you come up against early game, who'd have thought. I can already wipe those 25+ size Dust Bandit camps with relative ease by day 13.

Obviously have some issues fighting stronger, single enemies like Beak Things, but I'm planning on getting a couple polearm users to handle that eventually.

Edit: Ten heavies, four polearm users, five hackers and a pack animal should be a fun squad.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 10:22 on Feb 4, 2019

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I decided to cheat some stuff, and I got some training dummies that let you skill past 100.

Let me tell you past like 250 strength, armorsmithing, or weaponsmithing your character starts to hulk the gently caress out. Had to visit a plastic surgeon and drop my character frame/bulk down to the minimum to resemble a normal being, and even then it's still kinda eh. Past 500 there's no fixing that.

It is incredibly amusing though to watch a single character engage an entire squad and slice off every limb with their katana and leave untouched.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Honestly for beak things just grab a falling sun. Shreds through beak things.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

Vasudus posted:

Let me tell you past like 250 strength, armorsmithing, or weaponsmithing your character starts to hulk the gently caress out.
I totally warned you.

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here

dogstile posted:

Honestly for beak things just grab a falling sun. Shreds through beak things.

That's my endgame goal, but in my experience it takes a while for FSs to become effective. The upside with polearms is that they are really good for training DEX as well.

Edit: Also, I really like polearms ok

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Polearms are p. good. My favorite start is Holy Blade, but with a mod that gives me a pole hammer instead. You barely ever fight indoors, so the malus hardly matters.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Must have mod right here

Broken Cog
Dec 29, 2009

We're all friends here
The Stone Rats are an amazing faction to set up shop next to earlygame. Their racket is fairly consistent, they all have high 30's-mid 40's stats, don't loot more than your food stash if they beat you, and best of all, they all use blunt weapons, so you're never really in any danger of being permanently crippled.

Almost my entire squad is at 35+ toughness by day 30 just from their visits.

Edit: The blunt weapons also doesn't seem to do enough damage to knock you very far into unconsciousness, which makes it easier to stand up and fight from playing dead state with certain downed characters you want to boost toughness with.

Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Feb 5, 2019

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
This is a pretty amazing story

Power Walrus
Dec 24, 2003

Fun Shoe
This game is so good for emergent stories. I went into Heng and got my skeleton too close to one of the caravan guards. He flipped out and ignited a citywide riot that pulled my shinobi allies, some manhunters, slave traders and the city watch into a multi-day brawl. Within a short amount of time, everyone had forgotten why the fight started in the first place, but it was now open season for looting all the good poo poo in the shops! I robbed the bank on my way out and escaped with five or six leviathan pearls.

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


Holy crap I finally made it down to Shark with a squad of 6 guys. No action on the way down, and I was lucky enough to kill a couple swamp turtles for a huge amount of food. I like the trick where you just spam like 8 campfires and cook all the meat instantly.

Anyway when I get to Shark I head straight to the bar, where I accidentally picked a fight with some thugs. I don't know if that kicked everything off or if it was unrelated, but all the sudden the Hounds just start ransacking the entire town. I start looting the fallen, which works for a while until the Hounds aggro me and knock out my squad. They pretty much ignore me and keep attacking the rest of the town, and a swamp raptor and some blood spiders join the party.

Whenever I try to sneak around and get out of the fray I get attacked by the drat Hounds again, until I finally get Ruka up to the bar to start healing in the bed. I also hire some mercenaries to protect everyone while they're sleeping and patch us up. I manage to aggro the bar thugs again, and a single Hound attacks the bar. The mercenaries protect my one squad member and not the others, so we all get knocked unconscious again while they just stand there.

Eventually I manage to carry my entire squad over to the bar. I recruit a free escaped slave Miu and hire a skeleton named Longstoat to help with this. A hound starts shooting at me from a turret, so I use Kang (who hired the mercenaries) to aggro them on the Hounds. This starts another huge war between the mercs and the Hounds.

I steal everything I can, patch everyone up, and leave. The Hounds and the town and the Mercs were still fighting ferociously as I left. I'm gambling this nonsense game in the Mud Town Casino, plotting my next move. Now I need to escape the swamp and sell all this heavy gear.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Shark imploding into an orgy of violence is actually unintended behavior that they never fully fixed because it kind of feels right for a town run by gangs to collapse into an orgy of violence

bees everywhere
Nov 19, 2002

Shark has been a bloodbath ever since the first time I stepped foot in it. On my first visit there, I stopped by looking for recruits and found a few of them amidst the chaotic gang fights that had erupted all over the village. After the Dancing Skeleton, I went to the 2nd bar with my new recruits, when suddenly a group of blood spiders rushed inside and started eating everybody. The few guards still conscious were already beaten up from gang fights so I tried my best to help them against the spiders. Eventually I won, although 5 out of my 6 people in town were now unconscious and severely wounded. I put them all in beds with my 1 remaining person (who also happened to be the only competent fighter in the group) and then went off to explore a nearby village while my recruits rested at the bar.

Sure enough, before long another group of blood spiders showed up and killed everybody else in there and I didn't even notice until they started eating poor Hamut alive while he slept. I managed to get back before it was too late but I would say that that bar will not be receiving a good Yelp review from Hamut or Miu, even though I'm sure their gristle flaps weren't half bad.

Million Ghosts
Aug 11, 2011

spooooooky
so if i don't plan on staying somewhere long term, could i get away with just building a house, food/resource storage and a refinery/mine? i guess my question is are walls really worth it if somewhere will be little more than a mine outpost or rest stop

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
Foglands are a lot of fun and good money. I turned squad sizes up to max.

One point I came across a drifter being eaten by about 8 princes and their Entourage. I knocked off them out but a few. Ended up with 7 prince heads and 34 heavy heads.

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axelord
Dec 28, 2012

College Slice

Million Ghosts posted:

so if i don't plan on staying somewhere long term, could i get away with just building a house, food/resource storage and a refinery/mine? i guess my question is are walls really worth it if somewhere will be little more than a mine outpost or rest stop

You'll probably be producing your own building materials anyway so it's not really saving anything by not building them. I would suggest walls for any base that your going to have dudes working at while having the game focus somewhere else.

Just wall them up and lock the gate when you leave. Seems to keep anyone left at the base out of trouble and give you more time to react to any problems.

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