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Outrail posted:Also bounty hunters are an actual real thing. no
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Feb 7, 2019 03:26
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i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want and that data has been happily supplied by Facebook and Google the future is hosed
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Feb 7, 2019 03:56
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want Everyone, put on your Juggalo makeup to fool the facial algorithms!
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Feb 7, 2019 04:04
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Outrail posted:Also bounty hunters are an actual real thing. why let the government do something for free when capitalism can do it for money?
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Feb 7, 2019 04:26
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Screaming Idiot posted:Everyone, put on your Juggalo makeup to fool the facial algorithms! /cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/51657551/Screenshot_20_9_.0.png) Adversarial glasses
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Feb 7, 2019 04:31
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i heard a conspiracy dude say that Snapchat filters were created so all the time you spend turning your head and putting the phone at different angles is giving data to build a 3D model of your face if it's ever needed but I think that's too interesting for the boring, hellish dystopia we live in
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Feb 7, 2019 04:37
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Low Desert Punk posted:i heard a conspiracy dude say that Snapchat filters were created so all the time you spend turning your head and putting the phone at different angles is giving data to build a 3D model of your face if it's ever needed I wonder if somewhere there's a 3d model of my butt wearing a cats nose and whiskers?
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Feb 7, 2019 04:43
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want that and calling all legit footage of police brutality and politicians being caught saying the quiet part loud “deepfakes” just like they’ve run the term “fake news” into the ground and stripped it of all meaning just real heads I win, tails you lose poo poo Low Desert Punk posted:i heard a conspiracy dude say that Snapchat filters were created so all the time you spend turning your head and putting the phone at different angles is giving data to build a 3D model of your face if it's ever needed anyone remember that site from a few years back that tried to guess your age based on a selfie picture? that was almost certainly AI training for facial recognition
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Feb 7, 2019 04:47
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want hollywood sfx teams were able to do face replacements before deepfakes were invented, and of course that already extant technology was never used for evil, people in hollywood are extremely ethical
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Feb 7, 2019 06:01
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want I am certain that this is true and it's only a matter of time, like any day now, that a huge controversy is going to erupt based on either an actual faked video or a video that can be claimed fake.
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Feb 7, 2019 11:45
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if the piss tape wasn't real we'd have to create it
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Feb 7, 2019 13:09
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want they could already do this stuff surveillance or bodycam video is usually so blurry and low-res you can barely tell someone's skin color, let alone the details of their face. and both fake videos and accusing real videos of being faked have already had major impact on politics as for faked confessions, that's super easy. just lock someone in a room and torture them for 12 hours or so, that usually does it
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Feb 7, 2019 14:17
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Screaming Idiot posted:Everyone, put on your Juggalo makeup to fool the facial algorithms! Reminds me of this that I saw a while ago. https://cvdazzle.com/
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Feb 7, 2019 15:28
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Tunicate posted:hollywood sfx teams were able to do face replacements before deepfakes were invented, and of course that already extant technology was never used for evil, people in hollywood are extremely ethical But before deepfake was invented, what VFX did is use marker points drawn on someones face and import that data into a 3d model first, and than they could mask out whomevers face in green and throw the 3d model onto it. What this is doing is much more sophisticated and much much easier to do if you can dedicate some time and computer power to it. The more reference images you can gather the better the effect obviouisly So a lot of the early porn deep fakes were quickly made, but that Jennifer Lawrence video with Buscemi is surprisingly good, you barely see any artifcating of where the face is being thrown on. It's loving eery and that's just one person doing it for fun with a few hours to kill.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:28
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Deepfakes represent a lot of problems but i don't think the tech is at a point where those videos hold up against forensic analysis, and i'm not sure we'll get there? maybe we have but it seems unlikely
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Feb 7, 2019 15:40
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basic hitler posted:Deepfakes represent a lot of problems but i don't think the tech is at a point where those videos hold up against forensic analysis, and i'm not sure we'll get there? maybe we have but it seems unlikely I wonder if we've been so conditioned by culture and everything in the world, that people just aren't as easily fooled into this kind of thing. I mean look how quickly people use the Fake News banner, and it's not because a dummy is in the presidency, everyone understood the concept before he ever started calling it out for what it was, mostly fake drummed up news. But he brought it into public consciousness to a people who didn't have a catch word for it yet. Like lets say we saw the Piss Tape tomorrow, how many of his fans would just go 'thats CGI, have you seen what those eggheads can do with computers!?' Maybe that's why stuff like Deepfake isn't a real concern, because we've had variations of this technology for years and we've all grown accustomed to being trained not to believe everything we see with our eyes, and I'm not talking about in like a general sense we're smarter. I'm saying just look at the popular media, it's mostly computer generated fakery or cartoons.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:55
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basic hitler posted:Deepfakes represent a lot of problems but i don't think the tech is at a point where those videos hold up against forensic analysis, and i'm not sure we'll get there? maybe we have but it seems unlikely Yeah, it's kinda one of those technological arms race things, so deep fakes will get better and better to the point that Average Joe (who's a loving moron) will believe it, but others will be able to debunk it easily enough. The real problem is the diminishing returns of media attention (and the fact that the media has an agenda that usually aligns with the state at the highest levels) It'll probably just end up being another effective propaganda tool rather than the death of truth, but who the gently caress knows.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:56
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deepfakes are a psyop to discredit the piss tape. which is real.
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Feb 7, 2019 16:07
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i've posted about it somewhere before, but the chain of trust required to even start to combat deepfakes is some lol poo poo; at the minimum you need to make sure that everything is trusted from the lens of the camera all the way to someone's TV/computer screen and pray that nothing mitm's it
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Feb 7, 2019 16:11
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I think we're just going to transition into a society where people just believe whatever suits their sensibilities from how they were raised and they'll just subscribe to that universe and all of its news and partisan battles. An event will happen, and there'll be like, 3 completely different angles on how/why it happened and who was involved, with perfect video and photographic evidence to support whatever and as long as the bullshit is constructed well enough people will shrug and believe it and go on living their lives We're basically already 90% of the way there, the door on deprogramming people will just finally be closed because hey if you can't believe your eyes what can you believe? And how do I know your evidence that what I know to be true isn't fake itself?!!?
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Feb 7, 2019 16:14
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Low Desert Punk posted:i hope everybody realizes that deepfake-style fake videos are going to be used by the state to further control the populace, if it hasn't already started. Anyone with access to enough data can manufacture footage of confessions and illegal activity, fabricate multiple video sources for fake events, and make a gullible audience believe literally anything they want It's not going to be that, it's going to be that video will become useless as evidence of anything.
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Feb 7, 2019 16:18
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Morphix posted:I wonder if we've been so conditioned by culture and everything in the world, that people just aren't as easily fooled into this kind of thing. I mean look how quickly people use the Fake News banner, and it's not because a dummy is in the presidency, everyone understood the concept before he ever started calling it out for what it was, mostly fake drummed up news. Sure, but this all presumes it’s a continuation of things done that your brain immediately rejects because the entire concept doesn’t fit. Subtle fakes (sort of like propaganda-created memes) are more likely to be widely effective in maintaining the galvanization that’s present in a lot of places. But you may be right in that the key to a lot of the propaganda (pictures or talking points) is to make them so stupid-dense that a reasonable average person doesn’t even know where to begin to address it. With deepfakes, the obvious starting point is “well that’s not actually them talking” at least. e: ^^^ also that
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Feb 7, 2019 16:20
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smarxist posted:I think we're just going to transition into a society where people just believe whatever suits their sensibilities from how they were raised and they'll just subscribe to that universe and all of its news and partisan battles. An event will happen, and there'll be like, 3 completely different angles on how/why it happened and who was involved, with perfect video and photographic evidence to support whatever and as long as the bullshit is constructed well enough people will shrug and believe it and go on living their lives Unfortunately this sounds like the basis for a rad cyberpunk short story, and therefore has no place in this thread. 
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Feb 7, 2019 16:45
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Unfortunately this sounds like the basis for a rad cyberpunk short story, and therefore has no place in this thread. That's literally a plot point in metal gear solid two, the most predictive piece of media
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Feb 7, 2019 16:59
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Phone posted:i've posted about it somewhere before, but the chain of trust required to even start to combat deepfakes is some lol poo poo; at the minimum you need to make sure that everything is trusted from the lens of the camera all the way to someone's TV/computer screen and pray that nothing mitm's it it's not like anyone trusts videos now gently caress, there's plenty of liberals calling for an "investigation" into how blackface photos could possibly have ended up on Northam's yearbook page, and are arguing that we should "wait for the facts" instead of "rushing to judgment" by calling for his immediate resignation perfect fake videos have never been necessary. i worried about the deepfakes stuff for a while, but the more I think about it the more I realize it doesn't matter. the people who are already predisposed to believe things will never even look at the evidence, and the people who are predisposed to disbelieve those things will point to some dust on the camera lens and accuse it of being a mark left behind when the lizard illuminati projected hypno-fields into the tape
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Feb 7, 2019 17:26
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Agean90 posted:That's literally a plot point in metal gear solid two, the most predictive piece of media https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA
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Feb 7, 2019 17:40
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Agean90 posted:That's literally a plot point in metal gear solid two, the most predictive piece of media Metal Gear?!?!
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Feb 7, 2019 17:47
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The La Li Lu Le Lol
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Feb 7, 2019 17:55
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General Dog posted:It's not going to be that, it's going to be that video will become useless as evidence of anything. 2024: judge instructs jurors to disregard the eyewitness testimony since wikipedia edit war comments are inadmissible
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Feb 7, 2019 17:58
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net work error posted:The La Li Lu Le Lmao
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Feb 7, 2019 18:00
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Main Paineframe posted:it's not like anyone trusts videos now Yeah deep fakes aren’t going to convince people their paycheck is sufficient, healthcare is affordable, climate change isn’t happening, etc. If anything, increasingly pervasive deep fakes will make lazy idpol even more of an impossible ideology.
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Feb 7, 2019 18:43
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The Running Man has deep fake style tech, right? Like they use it to frame Arnold for the massacre and they use it fabricate outcomes for the Running Man contest I also think that movie is supposed to take place in 2019 so lol
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Feb 8, 2019 01:30
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Low Desert Punk posted:The Running Man has deep fake style tech, right? Like they use it to frame Arnold for the massacre and they use it fabricate outcomes for the Running Man contest From what I remember it was just audio splicing and actors doing "no please don't Arnold".
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Feb 8, 2019 01:33
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they couldnt kill arnold so they had jesse ventura kill some random guy and then edited the video to replace the guy with arnold
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Feb 8, 2019 01:52
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https://twitter.com/mashable/status/1093682575392964608
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Feb 8, 2019 02:39
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Outrail posted:Also bounty hunters are an actual real thing. It more has to due with the lovely bail bond system found only in the US.
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Feb 8, 2019 02:43
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lmao what a doofus
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Feb 8, 2019 02:47
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I think this belongs here: https://medium.com/@jeffreypbezos/no-thank-you-mr-pecker-146e3922310f
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Feb 8, 2019 03:49
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Teenage millionaire built a villain suit but for the greater good. How could anyone even glance at this and not immediately think 'yeah, he's evil'?
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Feb 8, 2019 03:55
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I'd love to be able to rig myself into something like that for working in a kitchen, assuming it could be semi autonomous
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Feb 8, 2019 05:04
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