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The mess that made of that engine  Plane definitely broke up in mid-air, you could tell from the initial video that the prop fell before the rest of the airframe which probably broke up shortly after.
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Qantas has cancelled an order for 8 A380s they put in back in 2006, they'll just upgrade/refurbish their existing 12. While emirates might be downgrading 20 A380 orders to the A350.
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Guessing the A380F might finally become a reality. Might have to plan to take QF8 sooner rather than later - at least Qantas hasn't talked about retiring their fleet...yet.
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Feb 7, 2019 12:32
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Looks more probable to me that the A380 will simply cease production altogether. It'll make it easier to transfer Airbus' wing production away from the UK due to Brexit, since they are significantly larger than the wings of any other Airbus aircraft. If they don't have to build them anymore, the investment of building a new wing factory will be lower.
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Feb 7, 2019 14:24
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I meant the A380s circulating out of passenger service will likely be converted to freighters like the 744s are.
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Feb 7, 2019 14:38
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Would an A380F actually be viable (unlike the beautiful, misunderstood A380)?
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Feb 7, 2019 14:41
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Have any oil sheiks turned an A380 into the world's biggest flying yacht yet?
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Feb 7, 2019 14:52
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Inacio posted:Would an A380F actually be viable (unlike the beautiful, misunderstood A380)? Maybe not as a new-build project at the onset of production, but a cargo conversion at a discounted price? 
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Feb 7, 2019 15:06
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The A380 is great, I love it, and will be sad when it goes away, much like the 747.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:18
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FuturePastNow posted:Have any oil sheiks turned an A380 into the world's biggest flying yacht yet? I hate all questions that force me to admit that even a PowerBall jackpot would not be enough money to make something practical.
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Feb 7, 2019 15:35
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The A380 is great, I love it, and will be sad when it goes away, much like the 747. Yeah,  and all
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FuturePastNow posted:Have any oil sheiks turned an A380 into the world's biggest flying yacht yet? Yes. One was for sale a few years ago; it had a glass floor to look at the ground below and all. (The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) https://www.curbed.com/2013/4/10/10254742/inside-the-500m-flying-palace-sold-by-a-saudi-prince
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Feb 7, 2019 15:48
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I hate all questions that force me to admit that even a PowerBall jackpot would not be enough money to make something practical. A relatively high-up Saudi prince *almost* bought a VIP A380, but the Qatari Royal Family has semi-recently tried to get rid of _one_ of their 747-8 VIP planes: https://onemileatatime.com/qatar-747-for-sale/
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Feb 7, 2019 15:49
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Cat Mattress posted:Yes. One was for sale a few years ago; it had a glass floor to look at the ground below and all. (The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) I’ll believe the glass floor when I see it
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Feb 7, 2019 15:53
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Cat Mattress posted:(The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) Oh man, that'd be so cool! What about a hot tub?
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Feb 7, 2019 16:04
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Personally, I'm in favor of more flying observatories.
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Feb 7, 2019 16:59
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:The A380 is great, I love it, and will be sad when it goes away, much like the 747. As someone who actually flys on the drat things too much I totally agree.
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Feb 7, 2019 17:51
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Cat Mattress posted:Yes. One was for sale a few years ago; it had a glass floor to look at the ground below and all. (The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) Surprised the guy didn't just buy Airbus just to make it happen. 
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PT6A posted:Oh man, that'd be so cool! The article linked refers to it as a "whirlpool tub" so I'd guess the intent was something closer to a hot tub than a pool.
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Feb 7, 2019 18:26
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Cat Mattress posted:Yes. One was for sale a few years ago; it had a glass floor to look at the ground below and all. (The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) Is this the one? https://www.ausbt.com.au/photos-inside-the-private-airbus-a380-flying-palace If so it's tacky as heck. I don't like it.
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Feb 7, 2019 20:41
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MisterOblivious posted:Pilot lands overheating plane on I-35 exit ramp, taxis to Kwik Trip I like the laissez-faire attitude of the folks who see an airplane descending onto the road in front of them and they don't stomp on the brakes.
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tactlessbastard posted:I like the laissez-faire attitude of the folks who see an airplane descending onto the road in front of them and they don't stomp on the brakes. You're assuming those people are looking that far ahead.
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tactlessbastard posted:I like the laissez-faire attitude of the folks who see an airplane descending onto the road in front of them and they don't stomp on the brakes. That motherfucker is trying to cut me off! Well I'm not gonna let him...
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Feb 7, 2019 22:03
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Maybe not as a new-build project at the onset of production, but a cargo conversion at a discounted price? I think the problem with that is going to be that the A380 is still too large for a decent number of airports, and I don't know if the current ground handling equipment for ULD containers can reach the upper deck of an A380, since 747's don't have doors above their main cabin level. Plus, I can see issues cropping up with long term support for the airplanes, since there weren't a ton of them to rob for parts like there are for the 747 family.
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azflyboy posted:I think the problem with that is going to be that the A380 is still too large for a decent number of airports, and I don't know if the current ground handling equipment for ULD containers can reach the upper deck of an A380, since 747's don't have doors above their main cabin level. If the A380 solves a problem that FedEx or UPS have, they'll solve the follow-on problems. When the laws about aircraft noise in the US ruled out unmodified 727s, FedEx designed, built, and sold hush kits: http://www.fedex.com/us/hushkit/history/index.html
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sellouts posted:As someone who actually flys on the drat things too much I totally agree. my fingers are crossed that Delta will do a el cheapo buy on some used airframes
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Cocoa Crispies posted:If the A380 solves a problem that FedEx or UPS have, they'll solve the follow-on problems. When the laws about aircraft noise in the US ruled out unmodified 727s, FedEx designed, built, and sold hush kits: http://www.fedex.com/us/hushkit/history/index.html That would depend on how many airframes said operator had. FedEx has as many as 170 727s at one time. Airbus has built -230 A380s thus far. They’re not going to that level for something that they only own fifteen tails of.
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Feb 7, 2019 23:21
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:my fingers are crossed that Delta will do a el cheapo buy on some used airframes It needs to be on the DC-9 type cert. Delta is buying A350s and A220s new.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:my fingers are crossed that Delta will do a el cheapo buy on some used airframes I’d be very surprised. They unloaded all the 747s they got from Northwest in a decade, presumably because they don’t operate routes fat enough to justify it.
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MrYenko posted:That would depend on how many airframes said operator had. FedEx has as many as 170 727s at one time. Yeah, but something that bolts on to the back end of an engine probably costs a bit more to engineer than a taller container loader.
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MrYenko posted:That would depend on how many airframes said operator had. FedEx has as many as 170 727s at one time. FedEx also knew there were still a bunch of 727's flying that that they could sell hush kits for. Since they're already scrapping A380's, I can't see anyone throwing money at that airplane.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:I’d be very surprised. They unloaded all the 747s they got from Northwest in a decade, presumably because they don’t operate routes fat enough to justify it. Because they didn't want to pay for a D check. They could've probably paid for those planes to be overhauled though. Delta apparently retired the MD-88 because everyone they asked refused to overhaul their engines.
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Luneshot posted:Personally, I'm in favor of more flying observatories. So how low would you need to fly this to make it the ultimate inflight sundeck?
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azflyboy posted:Since they're already scrapping A380's, I can't see anyone throwing money at that airplane. They are scrapping them already?
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slidebite posted:They are scrapping them already? https://onemileatatime.com/airbus-a380-scrapped/
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quote:Do note that the first several A380s built were heavier than the rest and didn’t have the same performance, so these weren’t very popular on the second-hand market. It’s possible that when more recently built A380s enter the second-hand market, there may be more interest. Probably makes sense to just part them out then.
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Air France is probably parking half of their A380 fleet by the end of 2020 (they're reportedly not renewing five leases when they expire), and since there has proven to be almost zero secondhand market for those airplanes, those five airframes are very likely going to be scrapped for parts.
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Cat Mattress posted:The oil sheik originally wanted a pool, but no amount of bribes could convince the Airbus engineers it'd be a remotely acceptable idea on an aircraft.) I'm wondering, how much water could an A380 have sloshing around the floor of the cabin before it becomes a problem?
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As National Airlines figured out, having the CG of an airplane shift suddenly is a very bad thing, so I can't imagine anything bigger than a hot tub would end well. https://youtu.be/AUjD9yUmTT0
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FBS posted:I'm wondering, how much water could an A380 have sloshing around the floor of the cabin before it becomes a problem? I'd love to fly a simulator set up with various amounts of "swimming pool" in it
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