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Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



bunnyofdoom posted:

Eh...I've stopped recommending 1d4chan because of all the loving racism/misogyny now.


(It's real baaaaad_)

Are there any 40k wikis you’d recommend?

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boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

Arcsquad12 posted:

To be brief, Black Library's management was in utter shambles for many years, so Abnett only did a few pieces for them while working on Marvel comics stuff in the interim. Now that BL is more or less in a better spot he's come back to work for them again.

There was that interview that summarized how badly things were because it was the bean counters pushing a lot of the decisions but I can't find the page anymore

hopterque
Mar 9, 2007

     sup

Xenomrph posted:

Are there any 40k wikis you’d recommend?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warhammer_40,000

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-3E4qdvZKM

a trailer for the warhammer kids books. looks cute.

that kids gonna end up a servator.

Lol @ the Like/Dislike ratio on that video.

Why do hams hate children so much?

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

AndyElusive posted:

Lol @ the Like/Dislike ratio on that video.

Why do hams hate children so much?

The facebook posts are similar only you get to see the comments. Despite the downvotes, it's heartening to see comments where parents talk about finally being able to read warhammer stories to their kids.

Big Willy Style
Feb 11, 2007

How many Astartes do you know that roll like this?
Yeah I think GW will make lots of money with these books. I know when my daughter is a little older I will probably buy them.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Buy 'em and stash 'em. GW being GW they'll be available for a month and then see reprints in a decade.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
So I got Ashes of Prospero on a lark since it's newish and it's...not great. Everyone in it is incredibly dumb to the point it's not even funny. Literally nobody important dies and things work out stupidly well for everyone involved. It's not even good bolter porn.

NovemberMike
Dec 28, 2008


The problem is that these wikis cover the lore directly and 40k isn't suited to that. 1d4chan has a lot of problems but the general format is really what a 40k wiki did be.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

There is the 40k wikia but they've been accused of adding extra stuff that isn't in the lore. They apparently cleaned up their act but who knows how much that is ture.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
Everything does that because people don't cite for poo poo and GW is a giant contradictory mess.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Feb 11, 2019

Xenomrph
Dec 9, 2005

AvP Nerd/Fanboy/Shill



Didn’t ‘Legion’ by Dan Abnett tackle the (pre-Heresy) Alpha Legion from the perspective of regular people?

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

Gaunts ghosts and cadian blood are pretty good about this novels wise.

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


Salvation's Reach in the Gaunt series has a memorable one.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

Brothers of the Snake by Dan Abnett has a good part at the start where an isolated frontier world calls for aid from the Iron Snakes.

Prospero Burns, also by Dan Abnett, from the Horus Heresy, is about a human who travels with the Space Wolves.

Salvation's Reach is another Dan Abnett has the Ghosts allying with some of the Astartes.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

The short story Kill Box is quite good. It's by Abnett and it features a Ghost being hunted by a bunch of Marines.

susan
Jan 14, 2013

Z the IVth posted:

The short story Kill Box is quite good. It's by Abnett and it features a Ghost being hunted by a bunch of Marines.

What's the Ciaphas Caine book that has him following a Kill Team into a Space Hulk?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Read Kill Box, read Salvation's Reach, I am up to date on my Ghosts fiction.

The suggestions seem to imply sticking with Abnett, given the Iron Snakes and Prospero Burns recommendations.

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

Others have provided examples of space marines, so if you want to see scenes of how a Custodian is perceived by a human, you can check out The Carrion Throne.

Chiwie
Oct 21, 2010

DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!

Arcsquad12 posted:

What are some good novels that show space marines from a normal human's POV? Traitor General has that great "oh gently caress oh gently caress" moment from gaunt and crew when they're up against three marines.

ADB is great for getting into the mind of an astartes, but I really want to see something where a guardsman or a civvie sees a marine rampage through a combat zone with inhumanly fast reflexes, pinpoint accuracy, and unnaturally fast movement for something wearing one and a half tonnes of armor.

Basically if Richard Boylan and the guy animating Astartes worked together.

Spears of the emperor is exactally the book you are looking for.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

That's only in a very expensive limited edition at the moment though. General release won't be till (probably) the summer.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=890dX0lU-sI

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Anarch audiobook now releasing on Audible on Saturday.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
On audiobooks, I haven't actually listened to the Helsreach audiobook beyond what Boyland used for the fanfilm. I know a few of the voices came from other sources, but how much was actually used from Keeble's narration?

Basically, I'm asking if Andre really sounds like a drunken Russian in the audiobooks.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Arcsquad12 posted:

On audiobooks, I haven't actually listened to the Helsreach audiobook beyond what Boyland used for the fanfilm. I know a few of the voices came from other sources, but how much was actually used from Keeble's narration?

Basically, I'm asking if Andre really sounds like a drunken Russian in the audiobooks.

HHEELOOOOOOH HEEROH!

The Rat
Aug 29, 2004

You will find no one to help you here. Beth DuClare has been dissected and placed in cryonic storage.

Everything was from the Keeble narration in the Helsreach YouTube series other than the female voices.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Wow he has got a hell of a range.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Are there any fantasy novels that involve the Chaos Dwarfs at all? I finished Daemonslayer today and was honestly expecting the survivors in Karag Dum to be Chaos Dwarfs when Gotrek and Felix arrived, which made me wonder if their Chaos counterparts ever got acknowledged in the fluff outside of codex's.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Randalor posted:

Are there any fantasy novels that involve the Chaos Dwarfs at all? I finished Daemonslayer today and was honestly expecting the survivors in Karag Dum to be Chaos Dwarfs when Gotrek and Felix arrived, which made me wonder if their Chaos counterparts ever got acknowledged in the fluff outside of codex's.

Yeah Felix mentions them at one point in the novels. Gotrek and some other Slayers give him death glares and he drops the topic.

Namely the Slayers were all insulting Elves, saying all elves were the same and the crimes of the Dark Elves apply to all elves. Upon which Felix brings up the Chaos Dwarfs.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Finally finished Anarch last night and while the amount of loose ends could fill their own book at this point, if that winds up being the end, it was still a drat good ride.

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


I think there's one arc left, for Gaunt to die heroically in.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



MonsterEnvy posted:

Yeah Felix mentions them at one point in the novels. Gotrek and some other Slayers give him death glares and he drops the topic.

Namely the Slayers were all insulting Elves, saying all elves were the same and the crimes of the Dark Elves apply to all elves. Upon which Felix brings up the Chaos Dwarfs.

I think that exact passage was in Daemonslayer and was what got me wondering if the were ever actually used in the fluff other than brief mentions of "dwarfs Manning chaos war engines". I'm guessing not, which is a shame because the Dwarf/Goblin relationship they have sounds like it would be entertaining to read about.

a shitty king
Mar 26, 2010

^burtle posted:

Finally finished Anarch last night and while the amount of loose ends could fill their own book at this point, if that winds up being the end, it was still a drat good ride.

The main loose thread for me was whether Brostin survived or not!

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
if Bonin can survive a two hundred foot fall off of a doom pyramid, Brostin can survive a building front collapse. besides, Mabbon made it clear that the enemy were hunting him, not the ghosts. once Brostin was no longer a threat, they moved on rather than relish the kill.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



I read Guns to Anarch in one stretch so I forgot half my "why give up on that thread" list but here is what I can recall:



-Soric brought to Jago
-The whole Eagle Stones plot, I must have missed a short story somewhere because I remember finishing Salvation and then it just immediately becoming a thing.
-The Cash for Widows plot
-The Resistance Lady who banged Gaunt who he thought was Curth and then never was mentioned again
-Basically the entire piece with Merity, Blenner and Ezra's death
-Mkvenner is the last Nalsheen but after the planet is destroyed, still hides that rather than passing on the traditions, only to fake his death and remain on Geron for whatever reason



I'm sure there are plenty of them and I recognize that after 20 years of Ghosts and long time gaps, Ab wasn't interested in pursuing some of them but drat. Mkoll Gear Solid though.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

^burtle posted:

I read Guns to Anarch in one stretch so I forgot half my "why give up on that thread" list but here is what I can recall:



-Soric brought to Jago
-The whole Eagle Stones plot, I must have missed a short story somewhere because I remember finishing Salvation and then it just immediately becoming a thing.
-The Cash for Widows plot
-The Resistance Lady who banged Gaunt who he thought was Curth and then never was mentioned again
-Basically the entire piece with Merity, Blenner and Ezra's death
-Mkvenner is the last Nalsheen but after the planet is destroyed, still hides that rather than passing on the traditions, only to fake his death and remain on Geron for whatever reason



I'm sure there are plenty of them and I recognize that after 20 years of Ghosts and long time gaps, Ab wasn't interested in pursuing some of them but drat. Mkoll Gear Solid though.

Hark executed Soric on Jago as a mercy killing and to stop Soric from accidentally mindfucking the regiment in Hinzerhaus.
The Eagle Stones and Cash for Widows plots are expanded on in Sabbat Crusade as short stories.
Sabbatine Cirk travelled to Ancreon Sextus with Gaunt when the Gereon force escaped the planet. She was put under examination by the Inquisition but bargained her knowledge of the forces on Gereon in exchange for freedom and the full scale invasion to take back the planet. She commited suicide after it was clear that Gereon could never be restored fully, only mercy killed.
The Money for Widows plot ties into the Merity plot because it's all about Meryn digging himself deeper and deeper into trouble and how many people he kills to cover his own skin. The money plot is resolved when Meryn murders one of his accomplices and let's Elodie find the corpse. Then he moves into trying to extort Merity, which is where poo poo hits the fan in Warmaster.

The Eagle Stones were brought back from Salvations Reach or from a resupply depot but weren't identified as being important until a daemon began whispering in Kolea's ear during a botched resupply mission. Also elaborated on in Sabbat Crusade.


Most of those plots were resolved or st least rolled into larger ongoing plots.

Personally I hope that we're done with the Eagle Stones plot and they get locked away in an Inquisition vault for the rest of time. All we know is they are part of some superweapon so horrifying that even the chaos forces have some concerns about using it. that is a device that could either be part of a final battle scenario against Urlock Gaur, or it could be one of the dark mysteries of 40K to never be heard from again.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Feb 15, 2019

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

It's pretty funny some people thing any of the Tanith will make it to the end. It's going to just be Gaunt thinking back of all the people he wasn't able to bring to victory on his reward world.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
Just finished A Thousand Sons by Graham McNeill. What a goddamn stonker of a book. The Crimson King is on its way, then it's onto the Ahriman Omnibus.

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

The story of the Sons of Magnus is such a profoundly hosed up tale and legit tragic arcs within the Horus Heresy itself. I found myself siding with all the Thousand Sons. It was just a lovely deal from the very start for them and they made the best of it they could. Magnus did what he figured was the best way to help them and all it did was make things worse. There was really nothing else the entire legion could do. They were destined to end up under the banner of Tzeentch.

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