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The first time I played Moloch desert, I though there'd be a way to actually follow the retreat orders. I was really annoyed that the character did the whole following Shamrock into disobeying. Just loving heck
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Psycho Landlord posted:There are some slight similarities with Count being an insufferable lying hotshot all game until Wiseman eats it and Count freezes up, realizes he's not the hot poo poo, and then proceeds to spend the rest of the game supporting you, including following you into the tunnel run that everyone warns him against trying, and very probably taking a hit for you in the process since he was trailing. The difference is Count is an actual character and his arc, while anime, makes sense. Also they both crash in the last mission. Dude gets sent to a suicide penal unit for committing fraud and then gets used to execute a member of his squadron. Count not trusting the LRSSG seems pretty reasonable considering how poo poo the Osean military had been so far. I think that Count freaks out in mission 15 because he expected to be thrown under the bus, but Wiseman actually dies trying to protect the squadron. He had already dropped the "I'm the best pilot" act by mission 10, iirc.
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Feb 10, 2019 00:59
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turn off the TV posted:Dude gets sent to a suicide penal unit for committing fraud and then gets used to execute a member of his squadron. Count not trusting the LRSSG seems pretty reasonable considering how poo poo the Osean military had been so far. I think that Count freaks out in mission 15 because he expected to be thrown under the bus, but Wiseman actually dies trying to protect the squadron. He had already dropped the "I'm the best pilot" act by mission 10, iirc. And the whole while he calls you murderer
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Feb 10, 2019 01:03
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Tythas posted:And the whole while he calls you murderer Which reminds me, it feels like the “they know you didn’t kill Harling” thing got dropped outside of that one line in Mission 10 and that whole plotline just vanishes. Was I missing something?
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Feb 10, 2019 01:05
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Which reminds me, it feels like the “they know you didn’t kill Harling” thing got dropped outside of that one line in Mission 10 and that whole plotline just vanishes. Was I missing something? Nope!
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Feb 10, 2019 01:19
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turn off the TV posted:Dude gets sent to a suicide penal unit for committing fraud and then gets used to execute a member of his squadron. Count not trusting the LRSSG seems pretty reasonable considering how poo poo the Osean military had been so far. I think that Count freaks out in mission 15 because he expected to be thrown under the bus, but Wiseman actually dies trying to protect the squadron. He had already dropped the "I'm the best pilot" act by mission 10, iirc. That's... not what happened? He doesn't drop the tough guy schtick until 15, Farbanti, when Wiseman dies. In fact Mission 11, your first with the LRSSG, ends with him literally saying "man if I had good wingmates I could really work some magic," and then gets pissy when Wiseman says "do your thing, I'll cover for you bro  " There's nothing about being thrown under the bus anywhere in his time with the LRSSG, his freeze-up happens because he was Golem 2 and was told to take command and reorganize the Squadron after Wiseman got tagged, which he then decides he's not quite capable of. Afterwards the squadrons get reorganized at base and he willingly flies as Trigger's second for the rest of the game.He is completely justified in disliking Osean military, though. Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 01:22
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Psycho Landlord posted:That's... not what happened? He doesn't drop the tough guy schtick until 15, Farbanti, when Wiseman dies. In fact Mission 11, your first with the LRSSG, ends with him literally saying "man if I had good wingmates I could really work some magic," and then gets pissy when Wiseman says "do your thing, I'll cover for you bro Count's line in that mission is "The old squad was bad, and I guess it's no different here. I could really perform, if only I had some partners I could trust," and considering that his last squadron's AWACS tricked him shooting allies I'm not sure that leaves a lot of room to interpretation. e: Count also freaks out when Wiseman says that he's going to act as a lure, not when he's shot down. turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 01:51
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Kotobukiya unveiled a couple of AC7 model kits today at Wonderfest: https://twitter.com/kotobukiya_p/status/1094393239375831040 https://twitter.com/kotobukiya_p/status/1094393147231109120
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Some powerful spoilers right thereturn off the TV posted:Count's line in that mission is "The old squad was bad, and I guess it's no different here. I could really perform, if only I had some partners I could trust," and considering that his last squadron's AWACS tricked him shooting allies I'm not sure that leaves a lot of room to interpretation. I mean, you're right, there isn't really any room for interpretation there. He's blatantly suggesting his squad is causing him to underperform as a way to deflect from the fact that he's underperforming and you stole the show in your new assignments. Wiseman's retort is exactly along those lines. What happened with Bandog and Full Band never really comes into play during Count's time with the LRSSG Psycho Landlord fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 02:08
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nine-gear crow posted:It would have been better if Melissa and Matilda actually were Shamrock's real family. So they keep all the plot beats the same and you don't find out until Melissa bursts in over the radio en route to Chandelier and you get one last endgame reveal, plus Shamrock gets a character moment of finding out his wife and daughter are actually alive after all that time, thus restoring his reason to fight and his faith and actually making all the vignettes of Melissa hauling her rear end across Anea for no reason actually mean something in the end. Yeah, I think that would fix most of the problems I had with the plot. (The opening to the very first mission actually made me think Melissa and Matilda were Talisman's family, but then the end of the mission came and whoops, nameless pilot died.) Back when the Zero(?) LP was going there was a poll for best ace, and I posted that the true best ace hadn't been in play yet. I forgot to post when the 6 LP came around, but the joke was that the best ace was Talisman for having to suffer Shamrock.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:There has yet to be a better wingman than Chopper, I will fight and die on this hill forever. Guts. Say what you will about the rest of the game, but Guts.
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Feb 10, 2019 07:49
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Psion posted:Guts. Say what you will about the rest of the game, but Guts. My experience with Assault Horizon has been very fragmentary at best, but I can safely say that I liked Guts and am glad he actually survived. Now get that man a fuckin' drink already.
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Feb 10, 2019 07:53
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Guts was good and deserved a better game
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So is AC6 backwards compatible now on Xbox or was a new digital download created just for AC7 owners?
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julian assflange posted:So is AC6 backwards compatible now on Xbox or was a new digital download created just for AC7 owners? An XB1 port was made for people who pre-ordered 7 on the Bone, but full backwards compatibility for the disc version of Ace Combat 6 for the XB1 is in the works as well with no definitive launch date yet, however.
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Feb 10, 2019 08:45
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nine-gear crow posted:An XB1 port was made for people who pre-ordered 7 on the Bone, but full backwards compatibility for the disc version of Ace Combat 6 for the XB1 is in the works as well with no definitive launch date yet, however. Gah!
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Feb 10, 2019 09:07
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I've spent quite a bit of time on Pipeline Destruction as I wanted to destroy all ground targets using only missiles and 4AGM within the time limit. It was fun optimizing my route through the map, with low approach gun sweeps, precise missile strikes and mid-air flips towards the ground. I wish multiplayer was more about such score attacks...
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Feb 10, 2019 13:23
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Nevermind read the drat store description so im dumb. Also whoever recommended the typhoon thank you this loving thing is a workhorse. ZeusCannon fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 13:43
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If you put enough maneuverability upgrades into something like the F 18 can it do a kulbit?
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ZeusCannon posted:Also whoever recommended the typhoon thank you this loving thing is a workhorse. If you like that playstyle, the F-22 is the same but better in every way. Also, with the hardpoint expansion part, you can get 64 quad-target homing bombs that only lock on to separate targets so you don't waste ammo.
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Feb 10, 2019 19:50
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Does anyone have suggestions for the Mission 12 SU34 ace and Mission 13's ace? I figure for 12, best plan is to rock something with HPAAs (those one shot all bombers right?) and waste all my regular missiles on ground units and do a restart at checkpoint to rearm. For Mission 13, I imagine its something fast with all standard missile upgrades, but there's only one chance as he disappears on a checkpoint restart.
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Combatace posted:Does anyone have suggestions for the Mission 12 SU34 ace and Mission 13's ace? MiG-31 with enhanced missile parts for 13, also acceleration and top speed. I think I went F-22 with XSDB and some enhancements of missiles for the Su-34 Ace. Replaying the mission out of love for it helps get used to spawns and preparing in time, I like to go for the southern ground targets and let the AI handle helis. e: no, mission 12 acing I did with Su-57 and PLSL, nothing was easier Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 20:09
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Combatace posted:I figure for 12, best plan is to rock something with HPAAs (those one shot all bombers right?) and waste all my regular missiles on ground units and do a restart at checkpoint to rearm. 4AAM also one shot the bombers.
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12 I managed without even trying with a Rafale with LACMs because they're so ridiculously good that I had infinite time for the bombers. 13, uh, good luck. The mission timer is fine, your problem will be not failing the mission after you shoot down the ace. LAAMs would probably make that easy but I didn't think of that at the time because I am a smart person. e: wait also you don't get them. That's why. I return to "good luck" I on the other hand have gotten every named ace except the one for 17 because no matter how many times I fly along that damned mass driver he never shows up. I've tried like a dozen times now. Is there some trick to this that I'm not doing? Do I need to be at some minimum speed too? power crystals fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Feb 10, 2019 |
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Feb 10, 2019 20:25
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power crystals posted:
Its not showing with the giant group of bombers to the far east? I flew along it, blew up some more ground targets, then finally the bombers showed up and do did the ace
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Not as far as I can tell. There's the bombers and some Su-35 (I think? forget exactly which Flanker) and F-35 escorts but I have never found a named F-35 among them, so I assume I'm doing something wrong.
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Feb 10, 2019 20:42
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Maybe not flying low enough? When I did it I beelined over to the driver right after clearing the first batch of beach targets, flew right over the vehicle at the beginning and continued low enough to keep triggering altitude warnings all the way to the end at like ~700 speed?
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Well I have no idea what I did differently that time but finally he actually spawned. Maybe I dove for the rail faster after passing the ships? The bombers showed up, there was an oddly-colored fighter among them, and then I nearly flew straight into the water and killed myself trying to shoot the bombers down because as stated I am a smart person. Either way whoo that's all of them so thanks for your moral support I guess.
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Feb 10, 2019 21:19
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Is it just me or is the Gripen with SASMs pretty good in multiplayer?
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Can someone explain the cutscene that plays before mission 20? I'm pretty sure princess warcrimes gets plastered by one of the missiles chasing count. So what does that montage with the singing and activating AI camera at the end mean? Who or what is warning you of the second drone at the end of the mission? Why does the final cutscene show her standing in front of the space elevator? Does her hand gesture mean anything? Finally, whats with the final "Can you hear me?" If she's an AI by that point, why can she still communicate with you once you blow up the signal repeaters? Is all of this going to be dealt with in DLC or did I just miss some information which makes it seem like loose ends?
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The Princess lived, confirmed. She takes over for Harling in being the voice in favor of the space elevator. So no, that cutscene really is confusing.
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For the above 2 posts I read it as Count intercepted the missile headed her way with his own jet
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LostCosmonaut posted:Is it just me or is the Gripen with SASMs pretty good in multiplayer? It is among the best, right up there with EML Flanker and SASM Eagle. QAAMs are for suckers, the guaranteed-damage of SASMs is amazing.
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Dramicus posted:Can someone explain the cutscene that plays before mission 20? I'm pretty sure princess warcrimes gets plastered by one of the missiles chasing count. So what does that montage with the singing and activating AI camera at the end mean? Who or what is warning you of the second drone at the end of the mission? Why does the final cutscene show her standing in front of the space elevator? Does her hand gesture mean anything? Finally, whats with the final "Can you hear me?" If she's an AI by that point, why can she still communicate with you once you blow up the signal repeaters? She does not die. The singing and shot of the camera are for dramatic effect. Cosette is the one who tells you about the second drone. The final cutscene shows her in front of the space elevator because she's in front of the space elevator and doing a weird hand thing because it's a reference to Macross Plus. The "Can you hear me?" line is for dramatic effect. She is not an AI.
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Kurr de la Cruz posted:For the above 2 posts I read it as Count intercepted the missile headed her way with his own jet Basically this. Count takes the hit, hence the damage to his fighter, she just happens to be close enough to get caught in the blast and have her chute shredded but apparently is close enough to the lighthouse to find some sort of safe landing there, rest of the game happens. The creepy HAL-9000 cutscene with her singing is just a bunch of symbolism about her war potentially starting Dronepocalypse.
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Psycho Landlord posted:she just happens to be close enough to get caught in the blast and have her chute shredded but apparently is close enough to the lighthouse to find some sort of safe landing there When you put it that way, it makes it even harder to believe she survived.
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She was parachuting with a technique used to deflect damage to non critical areas.
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^^^^^ eyyyyyDramicus posted:When you put it that way, it makes it even harder to believe she survived. Yeah, it for sure stretches supsension of disbelief.
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Would have been better narratively if she died imho. EDIT: but I also just hate her plot of, "whoops, the war was a bad idea and tons of people died for no reason, guess I'll help make elevators and now I am absolved.
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Count is actually beneath her, and the missile looks like it overshoots him, so she would have been between the explosion and his aircraft. If any debris hit her parachute then she probably just dropped for a bit before using one the backups. The camera in that scene zooms in to the point where you can't actually see the bottom of the smoke/debris cloud. The helmet flying off makes no sense, but hey, anime.
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