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Darko posted:Also, Nolan did part in TDKR too. And we had a two part animated adaptation. And they did part in Batman TAS. I've seen enough takes on that story by now, honestly. Agreed, we should move on to adapting The Dark Knight Strikes Again. 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I love Meloni but fuuuuuck no, he's not the right fit at all. Meloni would make a better Joker than Batman. Meloni would be perhaps the horniest Batman, and that would be refreshing after the recent trend of Batmen who are at best subliminally horny rather than having a prominent sexual anxiety. Like the nervousness of Keaton mixed with the physicality of Affleck.
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Feb 11, 2019 03:35
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Darko posted:Also, Nolan did part in TDKR too. And we had a two part animated adaptation. And they did part in Batman TAS. I've seen enough takes on that story by now, honestly. Dark Knight Rises and Dark Knight Re turns couldn't be more dissimilar in tone or plot or characters or themes or anything.
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Feb 11, 2019 03:41
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Gyges posted:To further his public persona as a rich douchebag, Bruce Wayne is never seen without a cowboy hat. Not even one that might be acceptable if Gotham City was in Texas either. One that Kid Rock wouldn't even be caught dead in. We're overdue for a Radioactive Man movie.
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Feb 11, 2019 04:52
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NikkolasKing posted:Dark Knight Rises and Dark Knight Re turns couldn't be more dissimilar in tone or plot or characters or themes or anything. DKRises has plot elements of all of the most popular bat-sagas and wears it on its sleeve to the point of including stuff from Batman: The Motion Picture in it. It just takes the basic points and turns them into something else entirely (which is far more interesting, to do, imo). I mean, yeah if you ignore the plot point of an aging Batman who retired trying to get his groove back against a giant muscleman in the sewers, losing, coming back and beating him, then faking his death and retiring as a symbol to have new people take up the mantle, no plot points at all. It takes just as many elements from Knightfall, No Man's Land, etc. as it does that and the other movies, and the cartoons, and makes kind of a tribute to the most known of Batman.
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Feb 11, 2019 05:03
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Darko posted:DKRises has plot elements of all of the most popular bat-sagas and wears it on its sleeve to the point of including stuff from Batman: The Motion Picture in it. It just takes the basic points and turns them into something else entirely (which is far more interesting, to do, imo). I mean, yeah if you ignore the plot point of an aging Batman who retired trying to get his groove back against a giant muscleman in the sewers, losing, coming back and beating him, then faking his death and retiring as a symbol to have new people take up the mantle, no plot points at all. It takes just as many elements from Knightfall, No Man's Land, etc. as it does that and the other movies, and the cartoons, and makes kind of a tribute to the most known of Batman. I guess I see the broad strokes similarities now you phrase it in such a way but the context and idea behind all of that is so different. The aging Batman in Returns was a deranged alcoholic who envisioned every crook he saw as the muggers who killed his parents and had a sadistic streak a mile long. He led an army of fanatical vigilantes to bring law and order to Gotham instead of directing the righteous forces of the police to subdue revolutionaries. I just didn't like Rises outside of Bane.
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Dr. Memory posted:And now I want to hear Patrick do Conan's prayer to Crom before battle. Now I want to see Patrick Stewart punch a camel.
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Feb 11, 2019 08:07
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I can't look at Chris Meloni without seeing a cop. Dudes a Bullock, not a Batman
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Feb 11, 2019 14:06
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Meloni can do it!!
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wyoming posted:Agreed, we should move on to adapting The Dark Knight Strikes Again. A more self-aware version of this that looks like Spider-Verse (the comics colors are ready there) would fuckin' rule.
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Feb 11, 2019 15:21
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Do the best of both worlds and do a Batman RIP adaptation where Pattinson is Batman for most of the runtime but Meloni is the Batman of Zur-En-Arr and Batmite.
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Almost Blue posted:The second half of your post reminds me of:  That's a real shot from the movie.
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I like MCU movies more than most people here, but Civil War was dull poo poo on every level, and the absolute "peak" of their jihad against the concepts of contrast and saturation.
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I think it's alright but some of the stuff they get away in that movie is shocking from a simple craft standpoint.
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Feb 11, 2019 18:03
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Was watching Infinity War the other day and it hadn't occured to me what the age difference between Wanda and Vision is. In the comics pretty much anyone who's not over the age of retirement or under the age of majority is drawn the same way so it doesn't stand out but in the movie Wanda is in her 20s and dating a robot played by a 47-year old man. The character is given life as stated in the movie partly based on brainwaves from Stark and Banner, played by actors in their 50s. But Vision's physical time alive is obviously only a couple years at most and mentally obviously inherits a lot from JARVIS, who is I'm assuming is not much older than a decade in his last version. She's dating an old man-child? Or is it old-man child?
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Feb 11, 2019 18:17
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Vision is however old Jarvis is
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Feb 11, 2019 18:20
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
Great example of the rule of thirds (there are three colours).
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Feb 11, 2019 18:23
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Say what you want about Snyder, him being crazy about recreating Renaissance paintings makes for a lot more interesting shots than a glorified TV series.
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Feb 11, 2019 18:27
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Lobok posted:Was watching Infinity War the other day and it hadn't occured to me what the age difference between Wanda and Vision is. In the comics pretty much anyone who's not over the age of retirement or under the age of majority is drawn the same way so it doesn't stand out but in the movie Wanda is in her 20s and dating a robot played by a 47-year old man. The character is given life as stated in the movie partly based on brainwaves from Stark and Banner, played by actors in their 50s. But Vision's physical time alive is obviously only a couple years at most and mentally obviously inherits a lot from JARVIS, who is I'm assuming is not much older than a decade in his last version. She's dating an old man-child? Or is it old-man child? It's like when Data was tempted by the Borges Queen in First Contact for 0.68 seconds and he tells Picard that, for an android, it's an eternity. Assuming Vision operates at super computer speed, he's relatively much older. Technically.
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Feb 11, 2019 18:28
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Yeah, you see, Vision is actually 100 years old because in Anime 
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Say what you want about Snyder, him being crazy about recreating Renaissance paintings makes for a lot more interesting shots than a glorified TV series. It's amazing, really. I try to find some sort of symmetry or structure in the way they stand there but my eyes just slide right off.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:07
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Say what you want about Snyder, him being crazy about recreating Renaissance paintings makes for a lot more interesting shots than a glorified TV series. Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:07
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. And great movies. 
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Feb 11, 2019 20:08
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. No, there's sounds too.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. Good advice, I'll try closing my eyes the next time I have to watch a Marvel film: HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. Films are mostly visual, yes, being a visual medium. They also need fantastic scores; even silent films had that. They also need to say something, which should be conveyed through visuals + dialogue. They should also pull some kind of emotion, which can be handled with a mix of score/visuals/dialogue. Put it like this; Silvestri's work on Avengers was some of his worst stuff; and he absolutely drove movies like Forrest Gump, Back to the Future, and Predator with fantastic scores. Even his midrange work on Ready Player 1 did more. Zimmer's Man of Steel was some of the best score work lately. So, if I cut out the dialogue to Avengers/MoS, I would have an ugly looking, generic sounding mess in one, and a beautiful emotion drawing experience in the other. If I cut out the music; then at best you would say "even" (and I wouldn't, cause Whedon). And this isn't even getting into subtextual layers and stuff. A lot of people here just pay attention to a lot more elements of film than the average person. The average person doesn't even actively notice score or cinematography and watches film strictly for plot or base entertainment like a network TV show (that isn't something like Hannibal, which goes further than average with those factors).
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
I respect the faithful recreation of how Tim in IT arranges his toys on his desk.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. i accept the strengths of the mcu: good-looking charismatic actors joking with each other
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. The MCUs strength is that it's a soap opera for nerds, where said nerds watch a movie to see their favourite copy of Tony Stark throw zingers at the other copies of tony stark, to be teased of future scenes where a Stark quips with other Mcu characters, and "epic scenes" half hazardly recreated from their favourite comic books (speaking of, how the everloving gently caress did they not include "we would have words with thee" in AoU? Whedon you hack). Aside that, there's nothing of merit. The score is generic, the script is nonsensical, the visuals are garbage.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. What's horrendous about them? What is strong about Marvel movies?
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Feb 11, 2019 20:48
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Actual soap operas have mcu beat in terms of plot, but they are about even visually
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Brother Entropy posted:i accept the strengths of the mcu: good-looking charismatic actors joking with each other None of them are charismatic.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Yeah I've mentioned this before, Snyder films make great trailers and still shots. But horrendous movies. A lot of people here seem to think the visuals are all a film is, which is why they can't accept the strengths of the MCU. What do you think of as a “strength” of the MCU? I’m not being facetious or picking a fight, just genuinely curious. Like they make money, but I can’t really think of anything they’re particularly definitive at.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:None of them are charismatic. They're likable though
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:None of them are charismatic. McCloud posted:They're likable though 
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Feb 11, 2019 21:11
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"Charismatic" doesn't mean that someone is popular or charming or whatever. Charisma is an aura of exceptionality that compels and inspires others. It's not something you have because you can deliver a funny line.
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Blood Boils posted:Actual soap operas have mcu beat in terms of plot, but they are about even visually The MCU doesn't have the balls to pull most of the notable soap opera twists. It does however have the most Chrises of any current franchise.
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The strength of Marvel movies is that they are breezy sequences of easy character work, quippy dialogue, and decent action. And they dwell fully within the neoliberal view of reality and the myth of Great Men so they don't make anyone uncomfortable.
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MCU is very easy to follow and accessible. The DC universe I am not so sure. I recently introduced someone to Man of Steel, it was their first time seeing the film, and they stopped after Krypton blew up because nothing about that whole opening sequence made sense to them. They felt the Codex, why the planet was blowing up in the first place, and why no one tried to leave, made no sense and setup what was ultimately a pointless movie with no point.
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