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Groovelord Neato posted:key and peele is probably the best sketch comedy show of all time. I don't know where we're at in antisemitic discussion but this is absolutely correct. https://youtu.be/POXXJbxOBkA https://youtu.be/gODZzSOelss https://youtu.be/naleynXS7yo https://youtu.be/RGJb2iLvOKE https://youtu.be/st21dIMaGMs https://youtu.be/RlTbJZ64sVM Their success to failure ratio is staggering. Their writing staff and director were incredible and they shut down before burning out. Kudos to them.
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Lmao at this subforum's surprise at 100% of US parties being extremely beholden to israel - where did you guys see a paradigm shift where this was ever not the case? The Dems are still Dems even if a very small handful of fun twitter progressives hold congressional seats
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mcmagic posted:I think it's hurt his popularity. yeah there's no way labour and the tories poll neck and neck without the antisemitic bullshit.
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Wilhelm posted:Lmao at this subforum's surprise at 100% of US parties being extremely beholden to israel - where did you guys see a paradigm shift where this was ever not the case? The Dems are still Dems even if a very small handful of fun twitter progressives hold congressional seats who is surprised?
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Racists all the way down https://mobile.twitter.com/danielmarans/status/1095023596475424769
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Does that count as one toxx or five? It should count as 5 so Lowtax gets 50$ for his spine aug.
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Koalas March posted:Hot take but I agree. Janelle Monae makes me wish I was a younger, much cooler man.
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She doesn't need to, and I understand why she doesn't, but it would be nice if AOC made a statement defending her fellow freshman and friend
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Groovelord Neato posted:yeah there's no way labour and the tories poll neck and neck without the antisemitic bullshit. Yeah, it's probably the best line of attack vs progressives because you can claim any anticorporate statement is anti-Semitic. They did the same thing to Matt taibbi.
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Radish posted:Chelsea is just as lovely as her scumbag parents which isn't surprising. On one hand she grew up in incredible privilege and I can see her just going with the system, but on the other hand she witnessed from a young age the system humiliating her personally and unfairly used to attack her father and you think that could possibly make her think outside of the system, but I guess not!
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theblackw0lf posted:She doesn't need to, and I understand why she doesn't, but it would be nice if AOC made a statement defending her fellow freshman and friend It's possible Omar may have asked her not to. AOC isn't shy about this stuff normally, so I can't really think of another reason why she wouldn't.
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bobjr posted:I’m pretty sure if she said something about how both sides need to work together for a solution it would be the same result based on how coordinated this has been. It's the Republicans seizing an opportunity to valvanize their base against an other, and the Democrats seizing an opportunity to gallvanize their base against what they perceive as upstarts who haven't paid their dues to the party yet. We need to stop carrying water for Centrists y'all. It's a dead-end ideology/approach to politics that guarantees failure every single time.
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Koalas March posted:You nailed it. Yeah. And my initial reaction was this: Priapus Unbound posted:Yeah, I can agree with this. With such a cloud of coded language around anti-semitism, it's really important that criticism of AIPAC from elected officials be expressed in as neutral a tone as possible to shut down misreadings, heartfelt or not. Using 'Benjamins' as money has been around a while but man it sure is easy to misconstrue when the Israeli PM's name is literally Benjamin. The alt-right is going to run with that association, I can feel it in my water. So my initial reaction was (gritting my teeth here) that Representative Omar should use more white-sounding language to avoid being misread. I am a thirty year old white dude from Idaho, and am coded as such it appears. Gonna go for a walk and process for a bit!
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:It's possible Omar may have asked her not to. AOC isn't shy about this stuff normally, so I can't really think of another reason why she wouldn't. In about five minutes we will get demands from Republicans asking AOC to denounce Omar. Then the next time AOC says something about banks, they'll use the same playbook on her.
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TulliusCicero posted:The loving criticism of Israel is antisemitism poo poo pisses me off well, arguably the Vatican does at least represent the views of the Catholic Church as its head of state is the head of the church. That the pro-Israel lobby keeps trying to turn criticism of a country = hatred of its people is a very dangerous thing.
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Priapus Unbound posted:I can dig this. AAVE is happily coopted by corporations to make money, but the moment AAVE is used in the political arena it's diminished and deliberately twisted. Black culture is great for stealing from but can't be allowed to have value of its own. You keep coming back to the "Benjamins" lyrics being twisted or unwise but the truth is there is literally no way for someone on the national stage to say "AIPAC did a not-good thing" or "Israel's government did a not-good thing" and not be accused of anti-semitism. There is no tone neutral enough that those seeking to take offense will not do so, no phrasing which will not be stripped of its plain unambiguous meaning and given some sort of double or triple deep post-hoc subtext as being anti-Semitic.
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mcmagic posted:I think it's hurt his popularity. It didn't move the polls one inch, buddy.
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1glitch0 posted:On one hand she grew up in incredible privilege and I can see her just going with the system, but on the other hand she witnessed from a young age the system humiliating her personally and unfairly used to attack her father and you think that could possibly make her think outside of the system, but I guess not! Chelsea Clinton has had more opportunity presented to her than possibly anyone else alive and she's still managed to do nothing with her life but collect glass trophies for showing up places. I'm glad she's showing her rear end.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Then the next time AOC says something about banks, they'll use the same playbook on her. Except they've tried that already and it's always been to no avail. I think AOC has better Twitter game than Omar does.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:actually your politics suck my dude, not the people's mad about this I'm mad about this, but I also like to yell at people who confuse what they want with how things actually are. You're going to have trouble understanding politics if you think that people not doing leftist things equals bad politics.
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mcmagic posted:I think it's hurt his popularity. it hasn't, nor have any of the IRA/Hamas/Russian weird smears. He's just too leftie for many of the unwashed gammon masses Groovelord Neato posted:yeah there's no way labour and the tories poll neck and neck without the antisemitic bullshit. based on what exactly
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1glitch0 posted:On one hand she grew up in incredible privilege and I can see her just going with the system, but on the other hand she witnessed from a young age the system humiliating her personally and unfairly used to attack her father and you think that could possibly make her think outside of the system, but I guess not! The system can make you a lot of money with very little experience if you have the right name so 
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mcmagic posted:I think it's hurt his popularity. It's that and his triangulation on Brexit (an almost impossible issue to deal with in his position) and other smearing of him by all media. This is real: 
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"Israeli soldier bulldozes Palestinian house, shoots owner when they protest their house being bulldozed, says "you attacked me" Leftists: "Hey thats hosed up" Centrists: "How dare you be Antisemetic?!" (Clutches pearls as tight as humanly possible) At this point leftists have to be brave and be willing to have the conversation that "No, criticism of Israel operating as an Apartheid state is not anti-semetism; shut the gently caress up", because the right plays this loving game constantly while Steve King is in their loving party TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Feb 11, 2019 |
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axeil posted:well, arguably the Vatican does at least represent the views of the Catholic Church as its head of state is the head of the church. It's a pretty dangerous game they're playing, because much like the once-terrifying "Socialism!", eventually it'll stop working.
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Ague Proof posted:It's that and his triangulation on Brexit (an almost impossible issue to deal with in his position) and other smearing of him by all media. Wait, they went after him for his choice of beans?
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If AOC wades into that mess the centrist knifes are gonna come out.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Racists all the way down I think the writers of this article are naive about just how many clubs were not letting in POC until very recently. Keep digging and you'll find a whole bunch more politicians. Augusta, one of the most prestigious and famous of courses, didn't let blacks in until 1990 and women until 2012. gently caress golf.
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Failed Imagineer posted:based on what exactly may loving up brexit so heavily.
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Cerebral Bore posted:It didn't move the polls one inch, buddy. They have been smearing him as an Anti Semite for as long as he's been the opposition leader.....
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Gorson posted:gently caress golf. You don't have to gently caress golf, it's already on the millennial kill list.
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Fritz Coldcockin posted:It's possible Omar may have asked her not to. AOC isn't shy about this stuff normally, so I can't really think of another reason why she wouldn't. This is news to some, but she’s a politician, not the embodiment of all you think is right and good.
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Gorson posted:gently caress golf. This is a sentiment I can get behind; until Tiger Woods it was exclusively the domain of old white dudes and even when Tiger was in his prime there were loving racists tearing him down at every opportunity, all the while he was winning major tournaments by 15-16 strokes. I'll never forget Fuzzy Zoeller saying that the Masters celebration party in 1997 (when Tiger won the first time) was going to feature fried chicken and watermelon.
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Isn't "trust the plan" a Q thing?
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"Finish" what wall? There is no wall
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Cerebral Bore posted:It didn't move the polls one inch, buddy.
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TheScott2K posted:Isn't "trust the plan" a Q thing? Yup Our daddy GEOTUS has a plan
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is America, CHUDS in my area I thought only liberals could show up during work days to rallies? Conservatives are all working! 
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