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Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

they said at least the reason that all duel challenges were accepted is cause the option is only there when they would accept it, otherwise it just doesnt show up

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A Perfect Twist
Aug 15, 2007

"What have I done? I'll have to start again. To forget and to disappear. I'll head north, far-north, to that big question mark, the Northern Territory"

Catsplosion posted:

Booked a week off so I could settle in and play this heavily for a few days. Literally the only game I was looking forward to this year, even if the release was going to be a hot mess as per usual and now it's pushed back again.

Thanks CA :v:

Now you have a week off to go outside, explore the world, exercise and be social.

My condolences

Voyager I
Jun 29, 2012

This is how your posting feels.
🐥🐥🐥🐥🐥
Planning your vacation around CA Launch dates...well, it's less destructive than gambling, but that's the kind of risk assessment that should tell you to stay the gently caress out of casinos.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Plan Z posted:

-The duel challenges seem wonky. The AI never seems to refuse them so you could possibly job them pretty easily. Some lords in videos one-shotted others, though that may have been for journalist plebs. That, and it feels like you're walking into a problem by not bringing in a combat lord to every battle in case the AI wants to challenge you.
That was indeed the "for journalist plebs" build, things went differently in the February 6th livestream. As far player-issued challenges, strategists outright can't be challenged and according to CA (and above davincie) neither can AI generals who would refuse duels, e.g. the faction heir or a friend of your duelist.

As far as AI challenges to the player, your characters have an 'auto-decline duels' button toggle which to me doesn't make sense unless you take no morale penalty for declining challenges, and if by 'a combat lord' you mean a 1v1 specialist (champions in Three Kingdoms) they're supposed to be weaker against enemy units than vanguards (optimized vs. units instead of 1v1); the analogy I've used has been watching said livestream where the dev tried to pursue an AI strategist that was seemingly too close to the front only for the dev's pursuing champion and faction leader (a commander) to end up blocked by and losing a bunch of health to AI infantry.

P.S. It's... it's Lü Bu! https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1095336725633736704

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Alt Right dipshit Arch Warhammer thinks the delay is due to China censoring the game for depicting China as divided, for promoting feminism, and for having characters in revolt of the government.


I just... has he ever seen any Chinese period drama? Any wuxia film ever?

e: Don't give him views

Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Feb 13, 2019

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
He sounds like a right turbocock.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


a capital G Gamer is a dumbfuck with bad opinions? must be wednesday!

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
He's a Warhammer 40K fan. That gives him a 50/50 chance of being a shithead, and he is a big one.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Is Turin ok? I really like watching his multiplay videos because my connection's too unreliable to let me do multi.

Don Gato
Apr 28, 2013

Actually a bipedal cat.
Grimey Drawer

Mantis42 posted:

I just... has he ever seen any Chinese period drama? Any wuxia film ever?

e: Don't give him views

Without watching the video because gently caress that noise, he probably heard the anecdote of why Hearts of Iron 2 was banned in China and didn't understand the difference between the eras and the different political optics and, you know, the fact it's only an apocryphal story I see on the internet that I haven't really seen backed up by facts.


I also could have ended that sentence at "he didn't understand" and it would be just as accurate.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008
Did he poo poo on the premise of the game upon announcement for not being Medieval III or Rome III?

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

Don Gato posted:

Without watching the video because gently caress that noise, he probably heard the anecdote of why Hearts of Iron 2 was banned in China and didn't understand the difference between the eras and the different political optics and, you know, the fact it's only an apocryphal story I see on the internet that I haven't really seen backed up by facts.


I also could have ended that sentence at "he didn't understand" and it would be just as accurate.

That's what I figured too, but confusing the warlord era (circa 1930s) and the three kingdoms era (circa 3rd century AD) is a critical failure to do any kind of research at all. Literally the only thing they have in common is "a time period when China was not united". And like... there's a lot of those.

If anything I wouldn't be surprised if Three Kingdoms is the most popular TW game in China by far when it's released.

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
a lot of those types take actual pride in knowing nothing about chinese history, for various flavors of stupid, jingoistic, racist, and conspiratorial reasons

Ceramic Shot
Dec 21, 2006

The stars aren't in the right places.

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Is Turin ok? I really like watching his multiplay videos because my connection's too unreliable to let me do multi.

I like him. He's kind of laid back and fun-loving, imo probably the best at live casting, seems weirdly well-adjusted for being a full-time YouTuber/Warhammer fan, apparently former jock turned turbo nerd who doesn't seem to have issues with women or other races. He endlessly references Lord of the Rings and Star Wars and has his own silly slang for different units. The Blessed Legion of Phakth he hilariously calls "the blessed legion of demonitization" I think because Phakth sounds like "gently caress" according to YouTube filters and can demonitize your videos or something?

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009
He's the dumb gently caress that got his angry about women generals in R2.

e: referring to Arch, not Turin

Ragingsheep fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Feb 13, 2019

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?

Ragingsheep posted:

He's the dumb gently caress that got his angry about women generals in R2.

I thought that was Arch?

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
Yeah Turin had nothing to do with that mess. It was ArchWarhammer and a bunch of other alt-right adjacent people. Turin seems fine.

ZearothK
Aug 25, 2008

I've lost twice, I've failed twice and I've gotten two dishonorable mentions within 7 weeks. But I keep coming back. I am The Trooper!

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021


Ragingsheep posted:

He's the dumb gently caress that got his angry about women generals in R2.


Hell no, Turin is a stand-up fellow, don't confuse him with ArchWarhammer. In his own Discord there were some alt-right weirdos but he told them (and specifically them) to knock it off with the politics. He is definitely the best in live casting amongst the Total War streamers.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


It's a shame this game will likely be bad and I will preorder it anyway

Somebody please start making these games who isn't CA, I have high hopes for the Chinese here

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Mantis42 posted:

Alt Right dipshit Arch Warhammer thinks the delay is due to China censoring the game for depicting China as divided, for promoting feminism, and for having characters in revolt of the government.


I just... has he ever seen any Chinese period drama? Any wuxia film ever?

e: Don't give him views

That doesn’t make sense as the game has always been that.

Plus China is fine with depictions of China being divided in the pre modern era. It’s only up to WW2 where they get a little uncomfortable.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Oh yeah I forgot about Arch Warhammer's lore videos where he's so obsessed with 40k minutiae he insisted on refusing to talk about the first war for Armageddon because in the lore that conflict was covered up by the historians after the planets population was genocided.

And now that I looked that video up to laugh at his obnoxiousness, I'm getting recommended videos from him where he's screaming about feminists ruining 40K because the website Bell of Lost Souls gave a "feminazi" a platform to talk about problematic issues with Warhammer.

Archaeology Hat
Aug 10, 2009

Arcsquad12 posted:

Oh yeah I forgot about Arch Warhammer's lore videos where he's so obsessed with 40k minutiae he insisted on refusing to talk about the first war for Armageddon because in the lore that conflict was covered up by the historians after the planets population was genocided.

What?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Lore in a minute. 3 wars have been fought on Armageddon in 40k. The first war was a demonic invasion. The imperium won, but the Inquisition didn't want the public to know about Chaos, so they exterminated the population to cover up the war. The second and third wars were against Orks. ArchWarhammer made a lore series about the third war except he kept making really annoying asides insisting it was the "second war what chaos invasion?" like he was being some coy know-it-all and arbitrator of the Canon.

My point is he's annoying and keeps injecting his own nonsense and declaring it gospel, when he's not screeching about the sjews ruining his fascist power fantasy. Just apply the same thing to Total War and the kind of fascist thought that comes with a lot of chud-y armchair military historians.

Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Feb 13, 2019

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

Hentai Jihadist posted:

It's a shame this game will likely be bad and I will preorder it anyway

Somebody please start making these games who isn't CA, I have high hopes for the Chinese here

ol Darth Mod guy is about to come full circle, just posted pics of a combined land and sea battle game set in the era of age of sail. Looks like a mixture of Empire TW and his Ultimate General Civil War game.

He started making terrible mods for Empire and many subsequent total war titles, then split to make his own games. His last title UG Civil War is legit great. It makes some compromises on the grand strategy level, but the AI can actually handle itself. The battles in it are legit 5-10x the sizes of TW game. The graphical fidelity is reduced, but it has a nice style, and I never zoom in anyway in TW.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

John Charity Spring posted:

Yeah Turin had nothing to do with that mess. It was ArchWarhammer and a bunch of other alt-right adjacent people. Turin seems fine.

Solution, we give the man an obvious mocking nickname (ArghWarham) to prevent any confusion and to take the piss out of his silly macho nerd name.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
His mods weren't terrible, but he got a lot of angry reactions from places like TWC for adding extraneous star wars art to his work, like making advisor lady into princess Leia. Even so, I'd highly recommend Darth Mod for Napoleon because it makes the game so much more fun.

Then he got mad that he thought he was snubbed by CA for some modders event, said screw you guys, and went off to make ultimate general.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008
Hey look what I managed to screencap during the stream:

The stream ended in the most novel-accurate way possible: a cliffhanger with Lu Bu poised to march on Luoyang and Chang'an, 'but to find out how that went you have to come back next time/chapter'.

Chortles fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Feb 14, 2019

Catsplosion
Aug 19, 2007

I am become Dwarf, the destroyer of cats.

Voyager I posted:

Planning your vacation around CA Launch dates...well, it's less destructive than gambling, but that's the kind of risk assessment that should tell you to stay the gently caress out of casinos.

Which is why I didn't book it off when it was initially announced. I knew the first date would be pushed back. Wasn't expecting that to be the case with the second date.

I need to use that holiday before the end of April anyway so it's not waste, just a shame that it got pushed again. Come to think of it i might actually get around to completing my second run of persona 5.

Hopefully we get the WH2 DLC a bit earlier with the pushed date as I've played both WH1 and 2 to death now.

Ragingsheep
Nov 7, 2009

ZearothK posted:

Hell no, Turin is a stand-up fellow, don't confuse him with ArchWarhammer. In his own Discord there were some alt-right weirdos but he told them (and specifically them) to knock it off with the politics. He is definitely the best in live casting amongst the Total War streamers.

Sorry, I was referring to Arch. Should've made I clearer.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

They should keep the voice glitch in the game.

IGNORE ME

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Man I can't wait to play the game in a few years time when my poor rear end can get better hardware.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



SeanBeansShako posted:

Man I can't wait to play the game in a few years time when my poor rear end can get better hardware.

Same except I was given a computer as a gift recently but I’ll still have to wait at least a year because I can’t afford $60 games and even if I could, only a madman would buy a TW game right at launch

I’ll do what I did with Attila and should have done with Rome 2 and buy some kinda gold edition in the distant future. Unless it turns out to be super good but I’m not too optimistic

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
I just lost an admiral in a defensive siege because their estrucan hoplites boarded when I rammed, stayed on my ship when theirs sunk, and killed all the men on mine

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
Yeah, well, they just wanted it more. I read that Cortes burnt his ships so his men would have no option but to continue forward.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Krazyface posted:

Yeah, well, they just wanted it more. I read that Cortes burnt his ships so his men would have no option but to continue forward.

So did Julian so it’s not a guaranteed win

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

CharlestheHammer posted:

So did Julian so it’s not a guaranteed win

Which Julian?

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

The apostate.

Though Julian was hilariously dumb

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
So they have just posted a classic mode battle on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fD1rzvghxc

Only comment I am going to make right now is I do like how you can see where a unit was wiped out by the flags left on the battlefield.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Looks neat. I like the idea of having multiple officers with their own sort of squads to watch over after seeing this. There's a lot of other stuff I like, but this has me much more hopeful about Records Mode. Also noticed no raze option once the battle was over.

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underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
they really are comitting to those unit cards huh

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