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I definitely still have a soft spot for that type of game -- "open" but still objective/mission-based. You get the tension of having to work towards a specific goal at a specific time, but lots of freedom in figuring out how to get there. (Not unlike Thief.) It's not just freedom for freedom's sake, it enhances the experience by making you feel like you're really accomplishing something, coming up with the solution on your own. Whereas a lot of open world games lack any sense of tension except when you go into a sort of "dungeon" that's basically a linear mini-game. Most of the time it feels like you can just run anywhere at any time and shoot anything, and if you happen to complete some objectives, cool. That's an asset in a game like Just Cause 2, but a liability in others.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:which is the best in your opinion? i tend to rank blood as the tip top of the build engine games, but I dunno where i'd put it vs doom, quake, and heretic I'd rank it Doom, Hexen, Blood, Duke, Heretic. But I don't like Quake and I like Hexen a lot. DUSK would be really high on that list too if it wasn't new.
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In the first Crysis at least, I think you could just edit an ini file and then use the cool suit abilities way more of the time so you were basically a Predator. It made the game way easy but also incredibly fun.
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That's what i did, edited cloak so it doesn't drain energy (or maybe it was like 1 energy a second or something i can't remember)
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Mordja posted:Crysis 1 speed mode: run at mach 10, literally bowling over Koreans when you run into them You can do some neat things with the movement in Crysis! https://imgur.com/a/vXnS8tR EVIL Gibson fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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Danger - Octopus! posted:In the first Crysis at least, I think you could just edit an ini file and then use the cool suit abilities way more of the time so you were basically a Predator. It made the game way easy but also incredibly fun. You could still be the predator with default values, because the cloak had ridiculous uptime if you didn't move or moved very slowly. And if you decloaked before shooting the shot didn't empty the energy bar, so you could immediately recloak afterwards. vvv Yeah and the stealth mechanics in general were good enough that the cloak was only really needed to get into position. Once you were prone in the tall grass or crouched in a bush it was extremely hard to for anyone to spot you. Crysis 1 is still so loving good. DatonKallandor fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Feb 13, 2019 |
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IIRC it only had ridiculous uptime if you stood still, if you moved while cloaked it drained a lot faster. So it really did turn you into an ambush predator.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:which is the best in your opinion? i tend to rank blood as the tip top of the build engine games, but I dunno where i'd put it vs doom, quake, and heretic
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The only thing I remember about Crysis Warhead from watching speedrun streams is that the ending has some comically bad motion capture.
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Shadow Hog posted:Above Heretic for sure, but I can never seem to tell whether I prefer Doom or Quake (each one is more versatile than the other in a few key ways so it kind of evens out), so trying to figure out where Blood fits in there would force me to contend with that issue and I'm not sure I can at the moment. for me i would say base quake is a better game than base doom, but doom has much better mods these days than quake
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I love Heretic, not sure why and that's acknowledging it's annoying faults and bullet spongy enemies But I love the vibrant colors and the atmosphere was really neat gently caress those later two eps are brutal though, I can't remember if I beat them both cleanly or not
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Heretic is one of those games where I just want to make a WAD of the levels that don't suck and play that all the time.
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Sir Lemming posted:I definitely still have a soft spot for that type of game -- "open" but still objective/mission-based. You get the tension of having to work towards a specific goal at a specific time, but lots of freedom in figuring out how to get there. (Not unlike Thief.) It's not just freedom for freedom's sake, it enhances the experience by making you feel like you're really accomplishing something, coming up with the solution on your own. Whereas a lot of open world games lack any sense of tension except when you go into a sort of "dungeon" that's basically a linear mini-game. Most of the time it feels like you can just run anywhere at any time and shoot anything, and if you happen to complete some objectives, cool. This is a big reason why the new Hitman games are so excellent, too.
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Casimir Radon posted:I'm a little annoyed that Limited Run Games and Romero haven't said a word about Sigil in more than a month. We're in mid-February now.
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I was too young for Daikatana but Romero apparently still managed to make me his bitch.
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Heretic is a really important game to me because it was the first FPS game I ever played, I played it sitting on my dads knee at his computer when i was like 3 or 4 years old i still really like the idea of a fantasy FPS, i think the enemies and weapon set are great, but i think some of the levels are weak. the first episode is cool because the levels are kind of built more like real places, like the little town, the first level is a dock, all that.
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OK, but is the wad still coming out this month?
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Mordja posted:OK, but is the wad still coming out this month?
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Mordja posted:Doesn't he know that Apex is the new hotness??
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Casimir Radon posted:John's been playing Fortnite recently and wants to integrate those ideas into the WAD now. So it'll come out this month, 2021. Okay so you and 99 chaingunners drop onto a map
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I was going to make some Sigil joke about collecting resources to build defensive structures a la Fortnite...but then it got me thinking about classic FPS games (and mods) and which were the first to give a player or class the ability to build things besides turrets and ammo points. Things like walls. Could you build walls in Team Fortress Classic? I know that the "Teddy" character from UT99's Unreal4Ever mod eventually had the ability to build brick walls, although the utility was somewhat limited and it was definitely something the AI wasn't remotely equipped to deal with. I think that's the first time I saw that in an FPS game.
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:I was going to make some Sigil joke about collecting resources to build defensive structures a la Fortnite...but then it got me thinking about classic FPS games (and mods) and which were the first to give a player or class the ability to build things besides turrets and ammo points. Things like walls. Wasn't there a Tribes mod that had some of that?
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victrix posted:I love Heretic, not sure why Best use of the color blue of any doom engine game.
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Mordja posted:Wasn't there a Tribes mod that had some of that?
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Casimir Radon posted:You just added a year. Shouldn't have said anything. And he brought on George Broussard as a collaborator. whoa whoa whoa, say what you want about john romero but he actually managed to ship a game. broussard is in a special category all by himself. also daikatana is a fun a game.
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site posted:John Romero With a paragraph of clarification that bitch means beat me in a video game and not something else on the back.
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juggalo baby coffin posted:i would buy and wear a daikatana t-shirt You know what? I would too, and I haven't gotten past the first few levels. I need to pick it back up at some point.
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Mordja posted:Wasn't there a Tribes mod that had some of that? as a hugely massive fan and player of Tribes 1 and 2, Tribes 1 had an even sillier and more complex base building capability than even T2 could manage. being able to take standard world objects like BRIDGES and SHIPS and turn them into spawnable assets was commonplace, with one mod adding the ability to create forward bases with teleports to it, or even call down a dropship using a beacon (assuming the beacon didn't get blown up before it could land). said dropship could also be destroyed by taking out it's generator and stopping players from repairing it before the ship went critical and blew up. You could also have weirdly minute micromanaging of defenses, using blast walls, blast doors, blast floors and bunches of micro sized turrets to create walls of death with hidden turrets in them, using forcefields as gates to allow your team to get in and out easy. This isn't even counting the fact you could use the map editor to mirror the terrain over itself to make cave maps, or then turn them on their side and add floor to create weird rock wall valleys, or space maps by extending the spawn area insanely high up. Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Feb 14, 2019 |
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Did Romero's kickstarter say JOHN ROMERO IS GOING TO GIVE YOU HIS PITCH because it should have done 
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No but thankfully the opportunity for the joke did not go unnoticed back when he was heralding that game he made with his sons.
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Convex posted:Did Romero's kickstarter say JOHN ROMERO IS GOING TO GIVE YOU HIS PITCH
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catlord posted:You know what? I would too, and I haven't gotten past the first few levels. I need to pick it back up at some point. i'm sure its been said a million times but the jump in quality and fun from episode 1 to 2 is palpable.
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http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61689 Quake mod jam is out!
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CJacobs posted:No but thankfully the opportunity for the joke did not go unnoticed back when he was heralding that game he made with his sons. 
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