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slumdoge millionare
Feb 17, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
Grimey Drawer

CommonShore posted:

Teach him about Mad Jack Churchill.

Mad jack owned hard

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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

I literally don’t know how to feel about his death

My only interaction was walking to classes at berkeley and being offered his batshit fliers. Like they said Bush is evil but water is wet and I’m a duck at cal so

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Alan Smithee posted:

I literally don’t know how to feel about his death

My only interaction was walking to classes at berkeley and being offered his batshit fliers. Like they said Bush is evil but water is wet and I’m a duck at cal so

quote:

In Architects of Fear (1983), Johnson compares LaRouche's view to an Illuminati conspiracy theory; Johnson writes that after he wrote about LaRouche in The New York Times, LaRouche's followers denounced him as part of a conspiracy of elitists that began in ancient Egypt.[195][196][197][198][199] However, according to LaRouche, Aristotelians are not necessarily in communication or coordination with one another: "From their standpoint, [they] are proceeding by instinct," LaRouche has said. "If you're asking how their policy is developed—if there is an inside group sitting down and making plans—no, it doesn't work that way ... History doesn't function quite that consciously."[200][195][201][202][203]

:thunk:

coathat
May 21, 2007


It's insane that people think lying was invented in the 20th century

Slamhound
Mar 27, 2010

Smirking_Serpent posted:

I don't have a strong relationship with them, I just see all the stuff on their computer (Afrika Korps t-shirts, panzer divisions, SS posters).

Today I was helping him with something unrelated and he randomly asks me "what was the most diverse army in WW2?" because he wanted to look cool and correct me that it was the SS.

I don't really think there's anything I can do, it's just frustrating.
Mercilessly deride him for being a diversity-obsessed, PC human being. Tell him that diversity is why nazism failed and always will fail. Then refer to him forever after as an SJW.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



ask him if the failed campaign to moscow by the nazis is why hes so afraid of snowflakes

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009

coathat posted:

It's insane that people think lying was invented in the 20th century

it was invented by ricky gervais, there’s a documentary and everything

OldTennisCourt
Sep 11, 2011

by VideoGames

Slamhound posted:

Mercilessly deride him for being a diversity-obsessed, PC human being. Tell him that diversity is why nazism failed and always will fail. Then refer to him forever after as an SJW.

It never fails to crack me up how loving angry CHUDs get whenever you turn their words back on them. Like, pure rage fueled "THE LEFT CAN'T MEME!" screaming.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



OldTennisCourt posted:

It never fails to crack me up how loving angry CHUDs get whenever you turn their words back on them. Like, pure rage fueled "THE LEFT CAN'T MEME!" screaming.

my personal fav is calling confederate monuments and the confederate flag and nazi memorabilia and similar, participation trophies

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

OldTennisCourt posted:

It never fails to crack me up how loving angry CHUDs get whenever you turn their words back on them. Like, pure rage fueled "THE LEFT CAN'T MEME!" screaming.

I think OP is trying not to inspire a school shooting

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

Epic High Five posted:

ask him if the failed campaign to moscow by the nazis is why hes so afraid of snowflakes

Holy poo poo that's good.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
nothing is more devastating to the left than the inability to turn various mspaint drawings into racist caricatures by typing on top of them or, in cases of the truly skilled, slightly changing the drawing.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Grammarchist posted:

I knew a ton of people like this growing up. It's a pretty common phenomenon to learn "slightly" more history than the hyper-simplified (but accurate) narrative and suddenly go whole hog into feeling like your into something cool that everyone else had missed. It's basically the same as knowing nothing about the Civil War and saying it was about slavery, then learning a little and saying it was about state's rights, then learning a lot and saying, "yeah it all comes back to slavery."
there are people who think Slavery Wasnt That Bad because of those "Interviews" some Lost Cause assholes did with Ex-Slaves in the 1930s

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.

Epic High Five posted:

ask him if the failed campaign to moscow by the nazis is why hes so afraid of snowflakes

i'm stealing this

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Pornographic Memory posted:

Pretty hosed up that all those Africans sold themselves into slavery just so they could make white people feel bad centuries later

durr hurr did u kno blacks sold their own slaves :downs: :smug:

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Race Realists posted:

there are people who think Slavery Wasnt That Bad because of those "Interviews" some Lost Cause assholes did with Ex-Slaves in the 1930s

The WPA interviews weren't done by lost causers specifically, and have considerable historical value. The problem in them stems from two things. First, the interviewers were invariably white, and so aged former slaves and sharecroppers instinctively played by the old rules of "make your answer fit whatever Whitey prefers" and presumed they were expected to downplay the injustices of the antebellum south. Second, they were asking very old people at the end of their lives about what it was like to be a kid, which inevitably tended to get the rose-colored glasses treatment.

Epic High Five posted:

ask him if the failed campaign to moscow by the nazis is why hes so afraid of snowflakes

drat, that's a good one.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
give him a swirly

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/abacuschat/status/1095583589167579136

Dr. Killjoy
Oct 9, 2012

:thunk::mason::brainworms::tinfoil::thunkher:
I’ve never seen a picture of tiny and assumed he had to be actually intimidating looking and holy poo poo he looks like he fell out of an altright soyboy meme into real life

Icon Of Sin
Dec 26, 2008



Epic High Five posted:

ask him if the failed campaign to moscow by the nazis is why hes so afraid of snowflakes

that’s cold-blooded :haw:

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Dr. Killjoy posted:

I’ve never seen a picture of tiny and assumed he had to be actually intimidating looking and holy poo poo he looks like he fell out of an altright soyboy meme into real life

He's bigger than some, not afraid of a fight, and knows how and when to provoke one. But at his core he's nothing special and will run like a dog when the odds turn on him.

Edit: And if he isn't a police informant I'll eat my hat.

Zeroisanumber has issued a correction as of 19:41 on Feb 13, 2019

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Captain_Maclaine posted:

The WPA interviews weren't done by lost causers specifically, and have considerable historical value. The problem in them stems from two things. First, the interviewers were invariably white, and so aged former slaves and sharecroppers instinctively played by the old rules of "make your answer fit whatever Whitey prefers" and presumed they were expected to downplay the injustices of the antebellum south.

no poo poo. Wouldn't you? Consider the time and place of the interviews, the actual tone of the interviewer (which is that of a condescending piece of poo poo) and you will quickly realize its the Audio equivalent of you holding a gun up to my head forcing me to say i had fun.

Again, listen to the interviewer

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



those WPA interviews being somewhat or explicitly loaded depending is actually the start and source of the name of The Half Has Never Been Told

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Zeroisanumber posted:

He's bigger than some, not afraid of a fight, and knows how and when to provoke one. But at his core he's nothing special and will run like a dog when the odds turn on him.

Edit: And if he isn't a police informant I'll eat my hat.

In 2019 black kkklansmen is a black cop joining the proud boys openly

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
The Memetic Tribes Of Culture War 2.0

The companion table of "memetic tribes" is pretty cool. The Alt-Lite, Alt-Right and Modern Neo-Nazis rows are virtually indistinguishable lol

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry

Zeroisanumber posted:

He's bigger than some, not afraid of a fight, and knows how and when to provoke one. But at his core he's nothing special and will run like a dog when the odds turn on him.

Edit: And if he isn't a police informant I'll eat my hat.

Have you considered that he gets away with assaults not because he is an informant but because he helps nazis?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
a goon once said ITT that baked is deep cover antifa

https://twitter.com/Kherman112/status/1095577946801135616?s=19

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




if he's deep cover antifa he's literally the greatest character actor of all time

"Hmmm, how do I really fit in with these people. I've got it....livestream myself getting owned in fast food parking lots, and make passes at 13 year old girls attending a con with their dad!"

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/EmilyGorcenski/...ingawful.com%2F

CheeseSpawn
Sep 15, 2004
Doctor Rope

hackbunny posted:

The Memetic Tribes Of Culture War 2.0

The companion table of "memetic tribes" is pretty cool. The Alt-Lite, Alt-Right and Modern Neo-Nazis rows are virtually indistinguishable lol

Fascinating read. The definition of tribes is interesting but it misses how ideology ties into broader perspective. Also IDW has a lot more enemies than SJA

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004


Hes got a face like one of the Thomas the tank engine trains

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


he's white, but not quite rich enough to stay out of jail

Tokamak
Dec 22, 2004

hackbunny posted:

The Memetic Tribes Of Culture War 2.0

The companion table of "memetic tribes" is pretty cool. The Alt-Lite, Alt-Right and Modern Neo-Nazis rows are virtually indistinguishable lol

Way too many words to express the point that technology has fostered a kind of digital cultural relativism, and outlining an ill-thought-out hodgepodge of sociopolitical groups as determined by a couple of terminally online brokebrains. When somebody is alienated from their traditional anthropological culture, they take the shortest route in finding a replacement culture. With the Internet being so convenient and given how it is currently structured, it is perhaps not surprising that the alienated end up identifying with one out of a handful of digital cultures. It's almost too obvious of an observation to base an essay on.

The thing that stuck out to me was the Mary Sue 'post-rationalist' culture, clearly the culture that the authors identify with. It is the rationalist culture with a coat of anti-realism paint. While it looks different, it is substantively the same thing. Yet another essay where the author 'independently' comes up with a big idea, but are too lazy to put in the effort to properly research and distil it down into anything substantive. The "Intellectual Explorers Club" are more interested in consuming 'insight porn' than producing anything novel or constructive. They spend their free time wrapping surface level thoughts around a slather of intellectual sounding, post-materialist prose to make it sound more intelligent than it is. What I'm taking away from this essay is why the schism between rationalists and post-rationalists exists at all, and what it means for the broader IDW movement.

Also the authors seem like terrible people, like 'radical centrists regurgitating alt-right talking points' levels of bad. Hence the article's framing of online culture as 'warring' 'tribes' of ever-splintering SJW and Reactionary groups. It's Kill All Normies quality crap. One of them made an appearance on Tucker Carson for their Quillette article about being a former anarchist. His view is that anarchism is a religious cult full of intellectually fragile, depressed young adults. Really intellectually stimulating stuff, lmao. So, uh, thanks for exposing me to an undiscovered vein of IDW morons...

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

CheeseSpawn posted:

Fascinating read. The definition of tribes is interesting but it misses how ideology ties into broader perspective. Also IDW has a lot more enemies than SJA

yeah but as gets documented itt all the loving time, ideology usually takes a backseat to more pragmatic concerns like squabbling over limited resources, personality conflicts, etc. so I think the predictive or explanatory power of ideology is probably less explanatory than a social network type analysis like this

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/cultofdusty1/status/1095960021064654849?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/IGD_News/status/1095957780794552320?s=19

TheBalor
Jun 18, 2001

The scope of Walker's spinelessness is breathtaking. The man is a cuttlefish.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
so larouche really is dead. well there you go.

https://twitter.com/dylanmatt/status/1095451962328469504
so bizarre and all over the place. starting out as a quasi-marxist organization and then:

quote:

What LaRouche wanted was to become president of the United States. In 1976, he ran on his own U.S. Labor Party platform, winning 40,000 votes, or .05 percent of the national total. By 1980, the LaRouche organization had swerved dramatically to the right, working closely with such groups as Willis Carto’s Liberty Lobby and promoting conservative causes like the strategic defense initiative. Predicting that Ronald Reagan would win the election, and eager to gain his favor, LaRouche joined the Democratic Party in order to launch more effective attacks on Reagan’s Democratic opponents. LaRouche would run on the Democratic ticket for his next seven campaigns.

During the 1980s, LaRouche reached the apex of his influence. The organization had a steady income stream from its aggressive telephone fund-raising teams and remarkable political contacts in Washington. Within the Beltway, it sold itself as a private intelligence agency, and many people fell for its pitch, including senior staffers on Reagan’s National Security Council such as Richard Morris, a top aide to National Security Adviser William Clarke. Throughout Reagan’s first term, LaRouche acolytes were invited to provide NSC staffers with frequent briefings. During this time LaRouche also purchased large blocks of television airtime, which he used to expand on his views about national politics (such as his conviction that Walter Mondale was a Soviet agent). In 1986, the group possessed sufficient organizational ability to win the Democratic primaries in Illinois for lieutenant governor and secretary of state, although both of its candidates were handily defeated in the general election.
anglophobia seemed to be the main theme running throughout the larouche movement. almost like a call-back to 19th century american politics.

also fun video of hitchens as a lefty in the 1990s dealing with an anglophobic larouche heckler (the one in the black duster and cowboy hat):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqa6n-32F-Q

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Huh, he predicted the plot to assassin's creed

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1096035721654296576

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