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Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
love 2 have 2 legit crises in my work going on at the same time welp

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JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Anime David quit your job too before they try you at den Hague post-Bill.

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

You Am I posted:

But you have not been posting here for 12 years...




Close enough.

JBP fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Feb 14, 2019

Mad Katter
Aug 23, 2010

STOP THE BATS
I quit my job in December and it owns.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Mad Katter posted:

I quit my job in December and it owns.

I quit mine in Jan. Can confirm, it does indeed own.

iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

NUMBER 1 QUEENSLAND SUPPORTER
MAROONS 2023 STATE OF ORIGIN CHAMPIONS FOR LIFE



Sorry to hear about that, tithin. Hope everything is ok (eg the Scotch is delicious)

I'm in the reverse scenario as today I finished the process to put iaJunior into day care two days a week so I'll be spinning up my business again so I get to talk to adults again during the day.

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

JBP posted:




Close enough.

:regd07:

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

tithin posted:

Ok I got fired from anz, ama.

I'm sorry tithin, ANZ is completely hosed on every level at the moment. There's nothing fair or logical when it comes to all that David Koresh tribes poo poo or what they are doing to their people.

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

What's the most hosed thing you ever saw at work?

Whatever it was there's an outside chance I might have had something to do with it.

joking

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
i want to buy pure mdma from the chemist please, i might be able to feel happiness

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

That :10bux: would be worth a fortune if you put it into the property market

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

Your account was paid for with ruddbux

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

bowmore posted:

i want to buy pure mdma from the chemist please, i might be able to feel happiness

No loving way should the public be underwriting MDMA labs when dope is a 100% renewable resource.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
I do data entry on a recurring project in which members of the Australian public participate and the written form includes their year of birth. There's a quite distinct generational divide at which people typically stop being able to write neatly.

It's boomers

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

tithin posted:

Ok I got fired from anz, ama.

How are you feeling dude?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.

Graic Gabtar posted:

No loving way should the public be underwriting MDMA labs when dope is a 100% renewable resource.

MD is way more fun however I am gonna recommend we go with both to be safe.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



GoldStandardConure posted:

How are you feeling dude?

I don't think it's hit me yet.

Despair. Sole provider for two kids with autism, where the gently caress do I go from here? I've not been unemployed in two decades.

You Am I posted:

Ah poo poo mate :smith:

Want to meet up for a coffee soon?

Sure, turns out I've got plenty of time now :V

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

tithin posted:

I don't think it's hit me yet.

Despair. Sole provider for two kids with autism, where the gently caress do I go from here? I've not been unemployed in two decades.

despite being on the other side of the country, if you need anything you know you can hit up goast & i, even if its just for a chat

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




BrigadierSensible posted:

I quit mine in Jan. Can confirm, it does indeed own.

I lost my job a year and a half ago, can confirm it really loving doesn't own.

Whitlam
Aug 2, 2014

Some goons overreact. Go figure.
Sorry tithin, that actually is no fun. Guillotine the banks (starting when your leave officially ends or w/e).

bandaid.friend
Apr 25, 2017

:obama:My first car was a stick:obama:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-14/nsw-stops-water-flows-to-lower-darling-river-menindee-weir/10808336

My comprehension is, draining all the water from the lakes as quickly as you can isn't really in the best interest of the lakes or the river, but the NSW Government gets to say a few extra litres went to the environment?

quote:

...

The Darling River Action Group is now warning that the situation is set to get even worse as the NSW Government pushes ahead with a separate and controversial water-saving plan for Menindee Lakes — a chain of shallow lakes which provide the water supply for Menindee, Broken Hill and irrigators on the Lower Darling.
"If that plan goes through, that would be the ruination of what was once one of the pristine waterways in Australia," the group's president, Mark Hutton, told 7.30.
"There's going to be more fish kills, and I would say that by the end of this summer there would be lucky to be a fish alive in the Lower Darling."
Mr Hutton is planning to contest the NSW election as an independent on the ticket of former Greens MP Jeremy Buckingham because of the water situation.
NSW hopes to use the project to "save" 106 gigalitres of water, for environmental flows to South Australia, as part of its obligations under the Murray Darling Basin Plan.
It proposes reconfiguring the Menindee Lakes, and releasing water more quickly, thereby "saving" water which would otherwise be lost to evaporation.
Irrigator and keen fisherman Graeme McCrabb says this would mean even less water would be held in reserve for times of drought.
"It leaves you drier rivers longer. That's what's going to happen if you drain the lakes faster," he told 7.30.
"[Already] the fish aren't surviving very well in a system that hasn't got proper flows."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-14/anthony-barlow-kevin-humphries-water-court-murray-darling-basin/10808384

An irrigator caught stealing water plead guilty but says he shouldn't be punished much because the water minister said it was OK

quote:

...

Mr Humphries, according to Barlow's statement to the court, had just told water users "you can pump unless told otherwise".
Barlow's statement recalls three separate occasions during the meeting where Mr Humphries asserted this.
"I remember watching him lightly hit the table with his hand to make the point as he said it," Barlow stated in his affidavit.
According to the defence submission, notes of the meeting were taken by Andrew Scott who worked for the Office of Water.
The submission said that Mr Scott recorded Mr Humphries' statement, that there was no embargo, and on further questioning the minister is quoted as saying: "You're not listening … there's no embargo".
The defence put the view that no representative from the Office of Water or WaterNSW sought to correct that statement, and Barlow believed the minister and thought the ban had been lifted.
Those prosecuting Barlow pointed out that in the period following the meeting, and before the pumps were switched on, he received two emails stating the ban remained in place.
Barlow told the court he did not remember reading the emails, and emphatically repeated that if he had known he could not pump, he would not have done so.

hiddenmovement
Sep 29, 2011

"Most mornings I'll apologise in advance to my wife."
It owns for about a month.

If you're single with savings.

Korgan
Feb 14, 2012


tithin posted:

I don't think it's hit me yet.

Despair. Sole provider for two kids with autism, where the gently caress do I go from here? I've not been unemployed in two decades.


Sure, turns out I've got plenty of time now :V

A healthy child is worth a lot of money in some markets.

Also I'm available if you need some help with bashing your boss in the carpark

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

tithin posted:

Despair. Sole provider for two kids with autism, where the gently caress do I go from here? I've not been unemployed in two decades.

I'm sorry to hear it. Not knowing how much cash you need to be bringing in I would recommend my own industry: disability support. Many disability organizations preferentially hire people who have experience caring for their own relatives, and you often don't even need a qualification to begin with. Once you find a niche for yourself it can be the nicest job you'll ever have.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Having wealthy friends also sucks btw, the opposite of what one might expect

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

tithin posted:

I don't think it's hit me yet.

Despair. Sole provider for two kids with autism, where the gently caress do I go from here? I've not been unemployed in two decades.


Sure, turns out I've got plenty of time now :V

I very strongly recommend a government job. Fantastic job security, good pay, benefits and a very powerful union.

Find something like your states liquor and gaming licencing, births deaths and marriages or just generally poke around. In Victoria it's careers.vic.gov.au

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Moon Atari posted:

I'm sorry to hear it. Not knowing how much cash you need to be bringing in I would recommend my own industry: disability support. Many disability organizations preferentially hire people who have experience caring for their own relatives, and you often don't even need a qualification to begin with. Once you find a niche for yourself it can be the nicest job you'll ever have.

Can you ping me some more information on this, where to start looking for instance? I'd love to move out of finance and into something ethical, and having experience with children with special needs sounds like I might be a good fit.

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost
Also it feels really good working for the public good rather than just to earn a buck for your boss. It's a huge motivator for sure.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Morrison should have called a snap poll

It suits his style. Morrison is happiest flying solo. If what he does and the way he does it works, brilliant; if not, well, it was a lost cause from the outset, and it could have been worse if you-know-who had been leading them. For the Turnbull haters, that would be Malcolm Turnbull; for Turnbull lovers it would be Peter Dutton.

There is always the possibility, in the same way that in theory anything is possible, Morrison could pull off the unimaginable to win the unwinnable. Bill Shorten as a double-barrelled risk to borders and the economy, with a combined softening of offshore pro­cessing and $200 billion worth of great big new taxes, could turn into Morrison’s John Hewson a la 1993, or his Kim Beazley a la 2001 or his Mark Latham a la 2004.

The strategy that Morrison is now employing is a version of Kill Bill on steroids, one of the most ­potent weapons in the government armoury. Actually one of the few

As Liberals, serving and retired, fearing people had stopped listening, spent summer poring over the electoral pendulum to see which seats they could win from Labor, only to land reasonably confidently on just one (Herbert), they came to the conclusion that their only option was, as a veteran campaigner put it, a shock-and-awe campaign against Shorten. A ferocious battle designed to render Shorten a completely unacceptable alternative, a weak, reckless man in hock to the unions, posing undeniable dangers of slowing down the economy while speeding up the arrival of illegal boats.

When Morrison addressed the National Press Club on Monday it was as close to a political sweet spot as his government has had since he assumed the leadership. Morrison struck the appropriate tone, the content was coherent if not inspiring, and his presentation was both strong and confident. It was, mercifully, as free of hyperbole as any political speech can be and for once there was no hyperventilating. He was something people haven’t seen often enough: prime ministerial. There needs to be more of it.

It provided a much-needed fillip for his beleaguered troops.

The timing of his appearance, on the day before parliament resumed, with the Opposition Leader tightly wedged on an issue of strength for the government, was perfect.

It was shaping as a unique situation. A once-in-a-90-year-loss of a vote by the government in the lower house on the medical evacuation of asylum-seekers from offshore detention centres begging to be cast as a victory, with the government skilfully fashioning a ­triumph from the jaws of defeat. When it came, the vote was ­humiliating. There is also no doubt the government will campaign heavily against Shorten over it, but threats of holding him responsible for future boat arrivals had a slightly hollow ring. There was something missing. The man forced by the parliament to implement the new laws it had just imposed on him in the face of the most dire threats was calling the other guy weak.

The government had just suffered a defeat on a measure it had claimed was unconstitutional, which it predicted would open the floodgates to illegal boat arrivals and wreck border protection as we know it, yet Morrison’s initial response had an air about it of yet another lecture to Labor about what naughty boys and girls they were.

In some respects it would have been better if Morrison had seized the initiative and called an election now on this issue. His earlier warnings that he would brook no compromise to existing laws could have been accompanied by a warning that defeat on an issue he argues is central to Australia’s ­security and wellbeing would have been tantamount to a vote of no confidence in the government.

On Tuesday night after the vote, if he really, truly wanted people to believe Shorten’s changes were so dangerous, the Prime Minister would have made the short drive to Yarralumla before he stood up in the blue room.

More predictably, Labor also had no interest in treating the issue as one of no confidence. That definitely was not part of its game plan. Everyone from Anthony Albanese down was dancing around it, ­saying yes it was a big deal the government was defeated on the floor of the house, but not such a big deal the government should go to an election on it. Albanese even went so far as to say the system had not been changed and there was no difference between the government and the opposition on offshore processing.

All Labor wanted yesterday was for the issue to disappear. That told you there was genuine anxiety internally on this for Labor and Shorten.

Labor scurried back to banks while the government kept shouting about boats.

Of course border protection will still be a negative for Shorten in May when the election is expected, but it may not have the fire around it that it does now, unless a boat arrives, and even then, you can bet Labor and assorted cynics will be claiming it was waved through rather than turned back to make a political point.

Yesterday, keen to counter the ­accusation his rhetoric was inviting or inciting an armada, Morrison did his best Stormin’ Norman (Schwarzkopf), sending a direct message to anyone thinking of getting on a boat: “I’m here and I will stop you.”

It is true Morrison does have two impediments to calling an election now. The first is the NSW election scheduled for March 23, and the second is that the budget is not finished. They are not insurmountable.

It is not ideal, but federal and state campaigns can be run concurrently, with the vote on different days. The budget is close enough to being finished — or it should be — given it has been brought forward to April 2. Morrison and Treasurer Josh Frydenberg could have had it wrapped in a week, then run with it all the way to polling day.

Announcing a surplus in the house might not provide the government with the electoral big bang it is hoping for, particularly if Labor produces an even bigger one. It is just possible Morrison has missed a moment.

Even the Australian is slowly drumming the beat of defeat.

Slugnoid
Jun 23, 2006

Nap Ghost

tithin posted:

I'd love to move out of finance and into something ethical, and having experience with children with special needs sounds like I might be a good fit.

It sounds like you'd be a great fit for the public service

Moon Atari
Dec 26, 2010

tithin posted:

Can you ping me some more information on this, where to start looking for instance? I'd love to move out of finance and into something ethical, and having experience with children with special needs sounds like I might be a good fit.

What state are you located in? I only know Western Australian organizations. If you want flexible hours the nicest possible work environment and the best chance to develop close relationships with your clients I recommend residential care (group homes). A cert 3 in disability helps during the interview, but you can get by without one. A cert IV or higher is only necessary for management positions. If you want to go in with a qualification you can get them cheap through online training providers, or pay a grand or so for tafe. But many orgs will pay for your training once you have been there for awhile.

Full time pay in an entry level position can get you anywhere from $65 to $85 K, more if you go into some specialist high violence houses. You also get fairly decent fringe benefits/salary packaging, and some roles grant significantly increased leave entitlements. Responsibilities vary depending on your clients. Some houses will have you doing so little that you are basically just paid to hang out, others will require personal care. It is best to go in willing to deal with showering and toileting needs. Other than that all you need going in is patience, open mindedness and a friendly demeanor.

If you have experience and qualifications in finance you might try looking for finance roles (disability finances can be crazy complicated so many orgs have reasonably large finance departments). I strongly recommend going to an organization's own websites and looking at the careers section. They advertise heavily on jobs websites and are pretty much always looking for people, but the best positions are on their own websites.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

SOrry to hear that tithin. Welcome to the recently unemployed club. Its going to be rough. :(

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




https://twitter.com/JoshBBornstein/status/1095995157516697600

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQShSBhzG40

Jerk Burger
Jul 4, 2003

King of the Monkeys

tithin posted:



I legitimately have no idea. I had an interview this morning for Toyota finance that's close to home, but it's a temporary thing to keep the house running.

Go work for the Government, best thing I ever did.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Moon Atari posted:

What state are you located in? I only know Western Australian organizations. If you want flexible hours the nicest possible work environment and the best chance to develop close relationships with your clients I recommend residential care (group homes). A cert 3 in disability helps during the interview, but you can get by without one. A cert IV or higher is only necessary for management positions. If you want to go in with a qualification you can get them cheap through online training providers, or pay a grand or so for tafe. But many orgs will pay for your training once you have been there for awhile.

Full time pay in an entry level position can get you anywhere from $65 to $85 K, more if you go into some specialist high violence houses. You also get fairly decent fringe benefits/salary packaging, and some roles grant significantly increased leave entitlements. Responsibilities vary depending on your clients. Some houses will have you doing so little that you are basically just paid to hang out, others will require personal care. It is best to go in willing to deal with showering and toileting needs. Other than that all you need going in is patience, open mindedness and a friendly demeanor.

If you have experience and qualifications in finance you might try looking for finance roles (disability finances can be crazy complicated so many orgs have reasonably large finance departments). I strongly recommend going to an organization's own websites and looking at the careers section. They advertise heavily on jobs websites and are pretty much always looking for people, but the best positions are on their own websites.

I'm in Victoria, - I tried looking on ethicaljobs.com.au for this sort of stuff but most of them start off by saying, oh we want you to have a certificate and 3 years of experience - for entry level stuff.

I'd love to get out of private enterprise and not having to worry about being for profit.

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


The Libs are cooked and I think most will see through whatever sweeteners they try and load into the budget which will be a combination of vote begging and laying traps for the next Government.

I agree that Morrison's best chance would have been to try and look strong by calling an election. Voters hate losers and weak leaders, clearly being scared to go to an election is in and of itself a vote loser.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

tithin posted:

Ok I got fired from anz, ama.

Sorry mate :( hit me up anytime and I'll be there. You're a true friend and very important to many many people. If ever in Sydney or if I come South always will want to see you and look after your wonderful wife and good kids. You will never be alone were here for you.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I hate the fact that the ABC still has Ruddick and the drunken child killer Kate Carnell on The Drum occasionally

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

quote:

How Australia treats the bodies of people who come by boat seeking asylum is simply yet another example of the non-consensual, violent, psycho-sexual battery which nation-states the world over inflict upon certain types of humans for reasons of propaganda and power.

Wait, so they were able to find out what happened to all the people who died at sea?

I couldn't actually find any mention in the article itself about what actually happened, though.

NTRabbit
Aug 15, 2012

i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches




Megillah Gorilla posted:

Wait, so they were able to find out what happened to all the people who died at sea?

I couldn't actually find any mention in the article itself about what actually happened, though.

Sounds like they talked directly to some sailors who didn't give a poo poo about Dutton or Morrison anymore, and risked serious prosecution to talk about it

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Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I hope they publish it. It's been years since that ABC article which first mentioned the "lines of bodies stretching for miles" and I've never been able to forget it.

Countless people who died trying to find a better life have just loving vanished into a black hole and it just blows my mind.

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