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Whole lotta people lately insisting, loudly and repeatedly, that they don’t remember Avatar.
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Feb 11, 2019 00:48
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I genuinely dont remember much about avatar except for the metal named unobtanium and only because its so dumb
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Feb 11, 2019 01:03
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Ahem would Disney have built a whole Avatar theme park that opened in 2017 if it hadn’t had a lastin cultural impact?! I was waffling about whether to see this but I think it’s getting good enough reviews to deserve it.
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Feb 11, 2019 01:19
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Avatar is still around as a cultural item but it rarely comes up. There just hasn't been anything to remind us of it.
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Feb 11, 2019 01:31
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What I remember of Avatar where people outside the first world recognizing their struggles in it, to the point you had PAlestinians dressing up as Na'Vi at protests.
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Feb 11, 2019 14:41
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I do remember that Na'vi jam their ponytails together to gently caress. Then they jam their ponytails into animals to make them do their bidding. Then they jam their ponytails into trees to commune with their ancestors. Pretty hosed up really.
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Feb 11, 2019 20:59
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Mirage posted:I do remember that Na'vi jam their ponytails together to gently caress. Hey don't kink shame! Rude!
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Feb 11, 2019 21:04
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ViggyNash posted:Avatar is still around as a cultural item but it rarely comes up. There just hasn't been anything to remind us of it. Yeah, it's as forgettable as any singular blockbuster people saw as an adult and didnt rewatch a billion times as kids. Only difference is that, unlike recent blockbusters, there aren't sequels to remind people of the first film or comvince them to rewatch it.
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Feb 11, 2019 23:20
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Darko posted:Yeah, it's as forgettable as any singular blockbuster people saw as an adult and didnt rewatch a billion times as kids. Only difference is that, unlike recent blockbusters, there aren't sequels to remind people of the first film or comvince them to rewatch it. ID4 was a thing forever and nobody I know even saw the sequel, but somehow people would still scream "Welcome to Erf!" and go apeshit over the monologue, even 15 years later. Toshimo fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Feb 11, 2019 |
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Feb 11, 2019 23:37
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Toshimo posted:ID4 was a thing forever and nobody I know even saw the sequel, but somehow people would still scream "Welcome to Erf!" and go apeshit over the monologue, even 15 years later. That's because a racist Internet meme was made from it (Will Smith clearly says "Earth"). That's kind of like how THIS IS SPARTA became a thing even though nobody remembers actual 300.
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Feb 12, 2019 03:03
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Toshimo posted:ID4 was a thing forever and nobody I know even saw the sequel, but somehow people would still scream "Welcome to Erf!" and go apeshit over the monologue, even 15 years later. meme =/= zeitgeist
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Feb 12, 2019 03:27
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teagone posted:meme =/= zeitgeist poo poo, i remember more lines from “Data-choked-by-an-alien” than all of avatar
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Feb 12, 2019 07:25
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Dr Christmas posted:Whole lotta people lately insisting, loudly and repeatedly, that they don’t remember Avatar. Curiously I don't think Alita has the meat to really justify a contrarian take like that.
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Feb 12, 2019 11:08
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Nessus posted:Even at the time I thought it was tremendously depressing how everyone walked out of it and was immediately like 'lol of course they're all going to get bombed, by those cool marines!' I mean, gently caress. Yeah, it's no wonder colonized and oppressed people saw themselves in the movie.
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Feb 12, 2019 15:59
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so they kept Koyomi, but she's not a baby this ruins basically my favorite little touch in the entire manga and I'm kind of annoyed
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Feb 13, 2019 03:45
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I loving loved the movie. Holy poo poo please let there be a sequel.
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Feb 15, 2019 00:12
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That was super fun. Rodriguez really knows his stuff when it comes to spectacle, and I thought everybody was pretty solid.
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Feb 15, 2019 04:01
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Looking forward to the sequel:
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Feb 15, 2019 18:12
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Toshimo posted:Looking forward to the sequel: Wonder how likely that is. Everybody seems tripping over themselves to declare it a flop.
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Feb 16, 2019 00:09
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I caught it too. I thought it was pretty good. If nothing else, its a loving spectacular tech showcase. I'm ok with how Cameron reassembled the manga elements into his own thing the one thing that I found weird is how lively and... ok the populace seemed. It felt like a fairly livable society all things considered, a far cry from the bleak hellscape of the manga. One thing I wish he did keep that I understand why he didn't is the labrinthine Frankenstein's monster of a city that the manga's world was. The Makaku fight in the sewage world was what really sold the manga for me, but the movie didn't have anything quite as spectacular as that, just a derelict subway fight. The bar fight was pretty great though. The context was kinda different but I think they pulled that fight off really well.
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Feb 16, 2019 00:42
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Toshimo posted:Looking forward to the sequel:
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Feb 16, 2019 00:53
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Reposting from the CineD thread: I saw it! Going in as someone really skeptical from the trailers, I soon found myself not noticing Alita's weird giant eyes so much. The romance with Hugo wasn't as hackneyed as your usual teen sci-fi postapocalyptic dystopia movie, and feels like it fits with the arc of the story. It seems like they mashed together a bunch of the plots of the first 3 books, and the OVA, butit was fine, it hit all the high points - if a bit dense. Like the pacing is really fast, and it seems a bit breathless at times. The scenes lifted frame-to-frame from the manga are all super recognizable and the action is great, with lots of cool cyborg fights. Desty Nova makes some cameos and it ends at a point where it seems to very strongly hint at a sequel, because the main large developed plot doesn't seem to be fully resolved. Overall, I think it was a good adaptation. The only thing I wish it had was a bit of a stronger plot payoff/resolution of the various arcs. It felt a little bit like lurching from one point to another without a strong rising climax/denouement structure. But overall a lot better than most other manga-to-live action adaptations. As someone who followed the comic since he was 14, I mightily enjoyed this movie.
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Feb 16, 2019 03:01
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I think it had been commented on before in thread, but there were a bunch of what appeared to be people in the 50+ age range in the theater today.
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Feb 16, 2019 23:10
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they should have left nova out completely and made it more of a man vs society story. because there's no way this is getting a sequel, and ending on a cliffhanger sucks balls. leaving out hugo's breakdown and knowledge about the way to get to zalem was a mistake as well
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Feb 16, 2019 23:56
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Relin posted:they should have left nova out completely and made it more of a man vs society story. because there's no way this is getting a sequel, and ending on a cliffhanger sucks balls. leaving out hugo's breakdown and knowledge about the way to get to zalem was a mistake as well Honestly, I feel like the Nova stuff worked. The beginning of the manga is pretty episodic, and the Nova stuff and motorball were essentially a way to glue all the little episodic plots together and give them structure. Also, you're forgetting that this is James Cameron's baby and that he's willingly set millions of dollars on fire just to play with underwater cameras. Unless this, like, hilariously bombs it's getting a sequel.
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Feb 17, 2019 01:06
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Honestly, I feel like the Nova stuff worked. The beginning of the manga is pretty episodic, and the Nova stuff and motorball were essentially a way to glue all the little episodic plots together and give them structure. Yeah. There's no common thread other than 'Alita does stuff' in the beginning and I've already seen critics claim (wrongly) the movie 'has no beginning and no end.'
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Feb 17, 2019 13:05
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Does anyone have the deluxe edition box set? I have two of the individual releases of the deluxe edition and was wondering if just buying the box set was worth it for the extra chapters and other goodies
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Feb 17, 2019 14:44
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Ashtarath posted:Does anyone have the deluxe edition box set? I have two of the individual releases of the deluxe edition and was wondering if just buying the box set was worth it for the extra chapters and other goodies I don't. I bought each volume release individually. But from what I've seen, the included 3 lithographs and the supplementary hardcover that has short stories that were never published in english are worth it. It's out of stock right now on Amazon, but I remember seeing it originally listed at $150-$180, then it went down to $120 for a little while. Looks like it's down to $108. At that price, it's more than worth it imo. I might just buy it and keep it in the plastic wrap. [edit] Just put on order for when it comes back in stock, comes out to roughly $120 after tax. Here's an unboxing video so you can see what you get: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMMqZBJzEmk teagone fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 17, 2019 20:08
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I just got back from seeing it and I'm really surprised at how much I enjoyed it. I'm glad I gave it a chance.
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Feb 17, 2019 20:23
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Apparently its doing ok at the box office in the states. If it does well in asia then you can probably expect a sequel
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Feb 17, 2019 21:09
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My biggest complaint that they removed most of Desty Nova's personality to make him into generic villian man.
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Feb 17, 2019 22:23
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IShallRiseAgain posted:My biggest complaint that they removed most of Desty Nova's personality to make him into generic villian man. I kept waiting for him to break out and give us all a good kyahaha! Well, hopefully if they do make a sequel, they'll be able to characterize him a bit more. Edward Norton can ham it up like that, can't he? DrSunshine fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Feb 17, 2019 |
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Feb 17, 2019 23:00
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at what point does Last Order stop using the absolute ugliest photoshop gradients and lens flares on literally every single page it's intensely upsetting watching someone ruin their art by smearing garbage all over it there's a one-shot from 1989 at the end of this omnibus and it looks far better than 90% of the first 3 volumes of Last Order despite pre-dating them by 11 years Ruggington fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Feb 18, 2019 |
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Feb 18, 2019 00:05
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turns out i got over the weird eyes faster than the bad exposition and clunky dialogue
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Feb 18, 2019 08:17
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Ruggington posted:at what point does Last Order stop using the absolute ugliest photoshop gradients and lens flares on literally every single page Welcome to the late 90s/early 2000s, when digital art was still new and everyone was getting in and figuring out what to do. LO stops being weird artwise after like volume 4 or so. If you thought that was bad, you should check out some of the 3d renders Kishiro did during the middle 90s, they are almost laughably bad. I take them as a guy trying to expand his horizons, though.
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Feb 18, 2019 15:20
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To Kishiro's credit, he did treat it as experimental and didn't use it long-term unlike, say, Masamune Shirow.
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Feb 18, 2019 17:43
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DrSunshine posted:I kept waiting for him to break out and give us all a good kyahaha! Well, hopefully if they do make a sequel, they'll be able to characterize him a bit more. Edward Norton can ham it up like that, can't he?
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Feb 18, 2019 18:41
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IShallRiseAgain posted:My biggest complaint that they removed most of Desty Nova's personality to make him into generic villian man. Didn't see enough of him yet to have a character. He's only "the guy behind the scenes causing the trouble" in this movie and you only see him at the very end.
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Feb 18, 2019 18:53
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IShallRiseAgain posted:My biggest complaint that they removed most of Desty Nova's personality to make him into generic villian man. Him just kind of nonchalantly going "hmph, well, that looks fatal" after Alita stabs Vector while he's meat-puppeting the latter made me laugh out loud. Honestly, for as little as we saw of Nova, he seemed fairly on target.
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Feb 18, 2019 23:43
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DrSunshine posted:Welcome to the late 90s/early 2000s, when digital art was still new and everyone was getting in and figuring out what to do. LO stops being weird artwise after like volume 4 or so. If you thought that was bad, you should check out some of the 3d renders Kishiro did during the middle 90s, they are almost laughably bad. I take them as a guy trying to expand his horizons, though. yeah i hit volume 4 and there's an immediate improvement in the use of the digital art, even if it still doesn't look nearly as good as the inked stuff the amount of flat gray being used to fill lines is still a bummer compare to how good all of the pre-digital stuff looks, but the progress is at least noticeable and im sure was way way more time-effective also zazie loving owns Ruggington fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Feb 19, 2019 |
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Feb 19, 2019 00:47
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