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the escape goat
Apr 16, 2008

Fun fact: Matt Fraction named Fat Cobra after a porn shop in Portland OR!

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RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

the escape goat posted:

Fun fact: Matt Fraction named Fat Cobra after a porn shop in Portland OR!

Incorrect. Fat Cobra was responsible for the creation of this erotic novelties market during one of his more enjoyable benders in the Pacific Northwest.

Cuchulain
May 15, 2007

My tiny godly CoX shall burn forever!
Incidentally, Pacific Northwest Bender is one of Fat Cobra's secret techniques.

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!

Cuchulain posted:

Incidentally, Pacific Northwest Bender is one of Fat Cobra's secret techniques.

So is Erotic Novelties Market.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

RiotGearEpsilon
Jun 26, 2005
SHAVE ME FROM MY SHELF

Holy poo poo, what is this from

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

RiotGearEpsilon posted:

Holy poo poo, what is this from

Battle Angel Alita (In theaters now!)

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Does the keytar represent sins?

Mr. Maltose
Feb 16, 2011

The Guffless Girlverine
No, it represents synths.

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

prefect posted:

Does the keytar represent sins?

Yeah, probably.

She also is a rad 1-man band that plays YES - Big Generator because it was the 80's.





Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I wish we had the 80s version of the future instead of the stupid we have today

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Toshimo posted:

Yeah, probably.

She also is a rad 1-man band that plays YES - Big Generator because it was the 80's.






This loving needs to be in the Alita: Battle Angel sequel.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Yvonmukluk posted:

This loving needs to be in the Alita: Battle Angel sequel.

That assumes that Alita gets a sequel. I liked that movie but I do not think it will make enough money to get a sequel.

David D. Davidson
Nov 17, 2012

Orca lady?

You know that quote just so happens to relate to another discussion in a different thread I'm following. It's the origin for the pharse "scapegoat" by the way.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

The Question IRL posted:

That assumes that Alita gets a sequel. I liked that movie but I do not think it will make enough money to get a sequel.

I dunno, some real turds get sequels greenlit when the first one is barely even out the door.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.



I always hated how they framed Alita as some kind of martyr. She's basically Kenshiro but stronger and doesn't age, and everyone lives in complete and utter misery. Helping people isn't some kind of horrible burden, unless you're Ayn Rand.

Wapole Languray
Jul 4, 2012

Lurdiak posted:

I always hated how they framed Alita as some kind of martyr. She's basically Kenshiro but stronger and doesn't age, and everyone lives in complete and utter misery. Helping people isn't some kind of horrible burden, unless you're Ayn Rand.

Isn't that the part where she's going to fight the seeming indestructible insane super-cyborg who's destroying the entire city because he has a grudge against her and everyone is basically telling her to go commit suicide so they can live?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Wapole Languray posted:

Isn't that the part where she's going to fight the seeming indestructible insane super-cyborg who's destroying the entire city because he has a grudge against her and everyone is basically telling her to go commit suicide so they can live?

Yeah, Spider-man does that poo poo all the time.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Lurdiak posted:

Yeah, Spider-man does that poo poo all the time.
Next you'll say it's derivative that Alita gave her spouse cancer with her cyborg fluids.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Lurdiak posted:

I always hated how they framed Alita as some kind of martyr. She's basically Kenshiro but stronger and doesn't age, and everyone lives in complete and utter misery. Helping people isn't some kind of horrible burden, unless you're Ayn Rand.

Sure, the manga makes her fate look super-cool, but the movie's design choices remind me that she is basically a child soldier mutilated to fit inside of a mars-adapted raytheon drone shaped like a child soldier, and that's an extremely disturbing and horrifying prospect. She's a living crime against humanity (again, leaving aside a lot of the manga), and also maybe this is just because I watched Shane again but I think most of the martyr stuff is just the Shane story rehashed: "humanity would be better off without all you cyborgs, but in the meantime, oh god, we're dying, please do something."

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Doc Hawkins posted:

Sure, the manga makes her fate look super-cool, but the movie's design choices remind me that she is basically a child soldier mutilated to fit inside of a mars-adapted raytheon drone shaped like a child soldier, and that's an extremely disturbing and horrifying prospect. She's a living crime against humanity (again, leaving aside a lot of the manga), and also maybe this is just because I watched Shane again but I think most of the martyr stuff is just the Shane story rehashed: "humanity would be better off without all you cyborgs, but in the meantime, oh god, we're dying, please do something."

Civil War. A play in two acts.

Act I.

Politican: I an a politician. And I say that this disaster would not have happened if there were no untrained, unregulated super heroes.

Captain America: I cannot debate with you over this. Otherwise there would be no second act.

Politician: Furthermore, we have put together militarized police who will enforce our new "no more superheroes" law. They will keep us safe.

Captain America: I and the rest of the superhero community will abide by your law. Only because your new police force while jerks, are not evil. And we have enough of a respect for the rule of law that we will abide by it.

Politican: The superheroes have all retired. Now let's just wait and world peace will surely be declared.

(Exunt Thor, pursued by an owlbear.)

Act II.

Politican: You super villains! Don't you know that by being here you are breaking our laws? Leave now.

Electro: My entire adult life has been spent ignoring the rules of society.

Sentinels: Beep-bop-boop. We are programmed to murder minorities. You can't legislate away our reason for existing.

Wendigo: I'm from an ancient tradition that existed long before your edicts and laws. They mean nothing to a force of nature like me. Also Wen-di-go!

Politician: Noooo! These reprobate who ignore laws aren't obeying our militarized fascist police force. Tina Turner was wrong, We Do Need Another Hero.

Captain America: Despite being earlier told to sit on it and swivle, we are going to come back and save all you jerks. But we are going to feel secretly smug about it.

Hawkeye: I won't be secret about it.

Fin.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

This is much more interesting than any of the Civil war books Marvel wrote.

Svensken
May 29, 2010
It's the plot of The Incredibles.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


The Question IRL posted:

Hawkeye: I won't be secret about it.

Fin.

:golfclap:

Now do Civil War 2

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

The Question IRL posted:

Civil War. A play in two acts.

Act I.

Politican: I an a politician. And I say that this disaster would not have happened if there were no untrained, unregulated super heroes.

Captain America: I cannot debate with you over this. Otherwise there would be no second act.

Politician: Furthermore, we have put together militarized police who will enforce our new "no more superheroes" law. They will keep us safe.

Captain America: I and the rest of the superhero community will abide by your law. Only because your new police force while jerks, are not evil. And we have enough of a respect for the rule of law that we will abide by it.

Politican: The superheroes have all retired. Now let's just wait and world peace will surely be declared.

(Exunt Thor, pursued by an owlbear.)

Act II.

Politican: You super villains! Don't you know that by being here you are breaking our laws? Leave now.

Electro: My entire adult life has been spent ignoring the rules of society.

Sentinels: Beep-bop-boop. We are programmed to murder minorities. You can't legislate away our reason for existing.

Wendigo: I'm from an ancient tradition that existed long before your edicts and laws. They mean nothing to a force of nature like me. Also Wen-di-go!

Politician: Noooo! These reprobate who ignore laws aren't obeying our militarized fascist police force. Tina Turner was wrong, We Do Need Another Hero.

Captain America: Despite being earlier told to sit on it and swivle, we are going to come back and save all you jerks. But we are going to feel secretly smug about it.

Hawkeye: I won't be secret about it.

Fin.

I would read/watch this parody.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
You just did.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
Now I'm going to have to read MGK's Civil War version again: http://mightygodking.com/i-dont-need-your-civil-war/

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Svensken posted:

It's the plot of The Incredibles.

Which was better than Civil War. Both the comic and the movie.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Doc Hawkins posted:

Sure, the manga makes her fate look super-cool, but the movie's design choices remind me that she is basically a child soldier mutilated to fit inside of a mars-adapted raytheon drone shaped like a child soldier, and that's an extremely disturbing and horrifying prospect. She's a living crime against humanity (again, leaving aside a lot of the manga), and also maybe this is just because I watched Shane again but I think most of the martyr stuff is just the Shane story rehashed: "humanity would be better off without all you cyborgs, but in the meantime, oh god, we're dying, please do something."

Who was talking about the movie?

The whole cyborg discrimination aspect of the manga is so underwritten that it's basically forgotten about for over 90% of its run time, especially when they go to space (yeah, the character you're supposed to view as a martyr gets to go to space while everyone else keeps rotting and dying on earth).

There's this weird double standard for suffering in the story, where everyone else's suffering is just like, set dressing to establish the cruel nature of the world, but when it happens to the main character it's this horrible tragedy. People's brains get ripped out of their skulls all the time, but oh no, Alita had to think about something sad. It gives me that same weird vibe as when unkillable martial artists lecture the starving wastelanders about courage and morality in Fist of the North Star.

I'm completely ok with a character who's just trying to survive and is a mercenary and occasional reluctant hero, but when the narrative acts like they're Jesus, it's weird.

Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 18, 2019

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Lurdiak posted:

Who was talking about the movie?

The whole cyborg discrimination aspect of the manga is so underwritten that it's basically forgotten about for over 90% of its run time, especially when they go to space (yeah, the character you're supposed to view as a martyr gets to go to space while everyone else keeps rotting and dying on earth).

There's this weird double standard for suffering in the story, where everyone else's suffering is just like, set dressing to establish the cruel nature of the world, but when it happens to the main character it's this horrible tragedy. People's brains get ripped out of their skulls all the time, but oh no, Alita had to think about something sad. It gives me that same weird vibe as when unkillable martial artists lecture the starving wastelanders about courage and morality in Fist of the North Star.

I'm completely ok with a character who's just trying to survive and is a mercenary and occasional reluctant hero, but when the narrative acts like they're Jesus, it's weird.

It's true, all of it.

I said why I mentioned the movie: its design choices gave me a perspective.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
This thread needs a lot more Kill Six Billion Demons. Fortunately, the most recent is self contained.



Please note that the anatomy is correct per the incident recorded in the Manual of Hands and Feet:

The Manual of Hands and Feet posted:

[The monks] only take apprentices to replace an old master when he dies, so that someone will always be around to make sure Ki Rata does not exist in the wider world. Many supplicants flock to Rayuba in the hopes of being trained by the masters, who sometimes are forced into self defense when they are challenged to unwanted duels.

When I arrived there, hoping for some insight, I witnessed such a duel between a low-ranking monk of the style and a well-known master of Pilgrim fist. Within three moves, the monk, a rather short fellow, use a two finger one-point technique to completely vaporize the bones in both the master’s arms.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Drinking contests against extremely powerful demons are pretty badass.








Allison's superpower is making incredibly poor decisions. Also, I want some of that Ichor Pale Ale.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Oh wow, I never realized the early appearance of that red longnose demon guy there :allears:

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Doc Hawkins posted:

I said why I mentioned the movie: its design choices gave me a perspective.

Ah, I misread what you said. Sorry!

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Flesh Forge posted:

Oh wow, I never realized the early appearance of that red longnose demon guy there :allears:

A lot of cameo appearances turn up again later. (or the opposite, where old characters make cameos in the background to remind you that they're still around, but not 100% relevant at the moment)

Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Knackered posted:

I've been looking for a new avatar, if you don't end up using it on some other poor soul let me know.

I became broke.

Pacra posted:

The second panel spoke to me



this is amazing

Gavok posted:

Venom Annual

This is a revisiting of the events of Venom: The Madness, only this time it's James Stokoe writing and drawing Madness Venom vs. Juggernaut and it is entirely my poo poo.











Juggernaut's expression in that first panel of the old lady's apartment is begging to be somebody's avatar.

this is what I was talking about ages ago for references.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Who is narrating that Venom scene?

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Dr Christmas posted:

Who is narrating that Venom scene?

Just some criminal. The annual is an anthology of Venom stories as told by people in a bar.

That story ended with Juggernaut threatening that guy to never tell anyone what actually happened.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

Dr Christmas posted:

Who is narrating that Venom scene?


Gavok posted:

Just some criminal. The annual is an anthology of Venom stories as told by people in a bar.

That story ended with Juggernaut threatening that guy to never tell anyone what actually happened.

I'm choosing to read it as Juggernaut talking in the third person.

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Herr Tog
Jun 18, 2011

Grimey Drawer

CzarChasm posted:

I'm choosing to read it as Juggernaut talking in the third person.

"the juggernaut is unbeatable, the juggernaut can't be stopped. "

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