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Looking forward to the world having R U S S I A over it in faux Cyrillic
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That's HoI3, not 4.
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Feb 16, 2019 02:28
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Wait, it's 1940 and the Pyrenees are still demilitarized? For shame!
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Feb 16, 2019 03:21
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That Yerevan is blessed.
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Feb 16, 2019 04:17
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Looking forward to the world having R U S S I A over it in faux Cyrillic Basically this world's only hope is for social-democratic Russia to conquer everybody. It seems like one of the only decent places to live at the end of Vic2.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:23
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Just call my admiral Faras al-Nabiu, since that's "Mantis" according to Google.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:56
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vyelkin posted:Basically this world's only hope is for social-democratic Russia to conquer everybody. It seems like one of the only decent places to live at the end of Vic2. Hey, Benin still exists.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:10
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Mantis42 posted:That's HoI3, not 4. And Paradox ruins yet another game 
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Feb 16, 2019 07:13
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vyelkin posted:Basically this world's only hope is for social-democratic Russia to conquer everybody. It seems like one of the only decent places to live at the end of Vic2. i love the heel turn in this universe. i'd love to read the political science theses that come out of this world; i guess you need orthodox traditionalist serfdom to get to Full Liberalism
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Feb 16, 2019 07:21
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I've wondered for a while about what Occitains think about themselves in this universe. Are they different from Provençal Occitains, or is there solidarity? Do some of them think of themselves as French due to the years of French rule? Do they miss being part of the Tirruni realm, or is that thought of as a Catalan project? Is there solidarity between Catalans and Occitains, or are Occitains too Christian-influenced? Does that even matter? I dunno.
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Feb 16, 2019 08:26
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orangelex44 posted:Wait, it's 1940 and the Pyrenees are still demilitarized? For shame! Iberian AI decided to be very diplomatic, but not for much longer - 
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Feb 16, 2019 13:12
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Hashim posted:Iberian AI decided to be very diplomatic, but not for much longer - Allying with the Moroccans? For shame even more! I don't remember what "orange" means in that view, is Russia sitting the war out?
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Feb 16, 2019 16:15
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vyelkin posted:Basically this world's only hope is for social-democratic Russia to conquer everybody. It seems like one of the only decent places to live at the end of Vic2. Well, hopefully Russian socialism doesn't turn out to be misguided egalitarianism from politicians that mistakenly ignores the world around them and ends up as a staging ground for a fascist coup crossed with a communist revolution. It's nice the ideology that Russia's going for, but I worry that an uncomfortable amount of their wealth may be based on their colonies. It'd sure be nice if that kind of egalitarianism led to things improving in the colonies and colonial subjects being integrated into democracy and their standard of living being raised as well, but I don't think it ever worked out like that in the real world.
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Feb 16, 2019 16:44
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orangelex44 posted:Allying with the Moroccans? For shame even more! For the moment, yes. They have a couple early events where they can choose their stance in foreign policy, and in this case they sided with the socialists, who are basically isolationists. So they've been focusing on their little constitutional commonwealth, but they'll have to get involved sooner or later, whether it's because of Francia gaining ground in Europe or the Balkan Fed attacking Tsargrad. Orange just means they have a very bad opinion of Francia.
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Feb 16, 2019 16:50
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What does Greater Francia look like to Francia's fascist leadership? Is the AI going to try to annex up to Berlin? To Warsaw? To Kaisargrad? Are they going to turn the Mediterranean into a Francian lake?
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Feb 16, 2019 17:00
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QuoProQuid posted:What does Greater Francia look like to Francia's fascist leadership? Is the AI going to try to annex up to Berlin? To Warsaw? To Kaisargrad? quote:Apart from the more respected History of the Franks by Gregory of Tours, two more colourful early sources that describe the origin of the Franks are a 7th-century work known as the Chronicle of Fredegar and the anonymous Liber Historiae Francorum, written a century later. Clearly everything from Iberia to Troy and the Sea of Azov is historical Frankish land.
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Feb 16, 2019 18:23
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QuoProQuid posted:What does Greater Francia look like to Francia's fascist leadership? Is the AI going to try to annex up to Berlin? To Warsaw? To Kaisargrad? Nah, their ambitions are largely restricted to Europe, since their dictator basically envisions a continent united under Paris. But whether or not they directly annex everything from Brittany to Minsk depends on the outcome of the German Civil War, I'd say. If the fascists win, then I can imagine them annexing a large portion of western Germany (along with Liege, Provence and so on) and partitioning the rest into puppet states, to go along with their strongman dictatorships in Poland, Hungary etc. If they have to conquer Germany themselves, then I can imagine them asserting direct rule on most of it, with Poland, Romania, Ukraine etc serving as buffers with Russia. As for southern Europe, their ambitions there are up in the air atm, but it would depend a lot on what Iberia does.
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Feb 16, 2019 19:12
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one imagines that the iberian regime, for all other faults, would be pretty heavy on instinctive anti-fascism and that the fascists of this time, like their historical counterparts, would absolutely loathe communists war seems inevitable imo
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Feb 16, 2019 19:18
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V. Illych L. posted:one imagines that the iberian regime, for all other faults, would be pretty heavy on instinctive anti-fascism and that the fascists of this time, like their historical counterparts, would absolutely loathe communists Oh yeah, it's not like we're ever gonna be buddies with Franks, but what does matter is whether or not we take an aggressive stance against Francia from the outset. We're at a pretty big disadvantage in terms of industry and manpower in 1936, so it's prob not a great idea to be openly aggressive from the very beginning, but then if we just leave them to mess around in Europe, then they probably won't turn their guns on us until the end. So war is inevitable, but it's a question of sooner or later.
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Feb 16, 2019 19:52
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SlothfulCobra posted:Well, hopefully Russian socialism doesn't turn out to be misguided egalitarianism from politicians that mistakenly ignores the world around them and ends up as a staging ground for a fascist coup crossed with a communist revolution. Is Russia socialist as much as they just happened have elected a socialist party in an election before Victoria 2 ended?
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Feb 17, 2019 12:07
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Russia's definitely more social democratic than anything, yeah, they elected a "socialist" party but they're a coalition between the Mensheviks and someone I can't remember so end result is they're probably not going to do anything about the colonies or liberal capitalists.
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Feb 17, 2019 16:21
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Yeah Russia's socialist party is probably about as "socialist" as the British Labour Party or the German SPD. Definitely not friendly to full-blown communist states like us.
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Feb 17, 2019 16:23
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with the obvious caveat that this is a pre-WW2-style radical social democratic party like, they're probably talking about building socialism &c in their propaganda, and probably honestly believe that their way is the only safe route to socialism as opposed to the social-democratic mainstream today, which is much more about tripartite capitalism and optimising society for quality of life rather than attempting to manifest any sort of class struggle - the mensheviks are probably putting out vaguely homoerotic posters wtih fat pigs and heroic working men &c, and making steps towards nationalising major industries
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Feb 17, 2019 16:29
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Pakled posted:Yeah Russia's socialist party is probably about as "socialist" as the British Labour Party or the German SPD. Definitely not friendly to full-blown communist states like us. What's relevant is that they're probably about as socialist as pre-coup Al Andalus, if not moreso.
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Feb 17, 2019 19:56
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SlothfulCobra posted:What's relevant is that they're probably about as socialist as pre-coup Al Andalus, if not moreso. can’t wait to hear about all the atrocities going down in russia’s colonies if that is the case
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Feb 17, 2019 20:33
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QuoProQuid posted:can’t wait to hear about all the atrocities going down in russia’s colonies if that is the case I’ll have you know that Russian Suez is a triumph of self-determination and that the Kadets want to bring it under state control is imperialism of the highest order
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Feb 17, 2019 21:04
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Hashim posted:Also, rip commie ibriz Would a bunch of jihadi settlers really leave the resource rich lands of California alone? I like the Waono, but their time has come.
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Feb 22, 2019 17:01
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Snipee posted:Would a bunch of jihadi settlers really leave the resource rich lands of California alone? I like the Waono, but their time has come. Presumably, it's because everyone on the continent has much bigger fish to try in terms of rivals. There's only two (or three) groups that could expidently take Waono and remain contiguous, but they have more powerful rivals adjacent to them just itching to try and get another chance to tear off a chunk. There's also the fact that all of the countries adjacent ot them already have access to the Pacific (though idk if they even have trade currently operating in that direction) and Waono isn't even a buffer state.
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Feb 22, 2019 17:47
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Japan's back baby! Also, turns out the Balkans were the real commies after all  
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Feb 22, 2019 20:05
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Hashim posted:
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Feb 23, 2019 17:13
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What’s the Islamic equivalent of liberation theology?
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Feb 24, 2019 00:07
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Islamic socialism doesn't have a special name, it's just Islamic socialism. It's been a thing for literally centuries. The Wäisi movement is probably the only specific thing you could compare to liberation theology.
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Feb 24, 2019 00:22
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QuoProQuid posted:What’s the Islamic equivalent of liberation theology? I’m also curious if such a thing exists at all  Joke aside, the one particular book im eying right now is Islamic Liberation Theology: Resisting The Empire by Hamid Dabashi a university professor from california who o frequently read their opinion articles on aje.
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Feb 25, 2019 12:33
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So, how's our eventual destruction at the hands of the Almoravids and Fraschists looking?
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Mod's functional and mostly done, I'm just procrastinating getting the last bit of localisation done, but I'll probably be ready sometime next week. I should probably also run a bunch more test games, but I haven't got much time atm, so I'm looking to get the ball rolling as soon as possible.
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Hashim posted:Mod's functional and mostly done, I'm just procrastinating getting the last bit of localisation done, but I'll probably be ready sometime next week. I should probably also run a bunch more test games, but I haven't got much time atm, so I'm looking to get the ball rolling as soon as possible. Honestly, the more unstable the better. Seems to match the world you've created.
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Mar 8, 2019 00:35
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Did anybody ever fix the weird localization and coring stuff for the v2 mod?
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Mar 8, 2019 01:23
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habeasdorkus posted:So, how's our eventual destruction at the hands of the Almoravids and Fraschists looking? Just about as good as San Marino's chances of ever making it to Serie A.
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McGavin posted:Just about as good as San Marino's chances of ever making it to Serie A. So real good then! Hashim posted:Mod's functional and mostly done, I'm just procrastinating getting the last bit of localisation done, but I'll probably be ready sometime next week. I should probably also run a bunch more test games, but I haven't got much time atm, so I'm looking to get the ball rolling as soon as possible. Take your time, I was only bumping the thread. And as McGavin points out, I have no room to talk about schedule slip 
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Hearts of Iron 4 Chapter 1 - The Looming of World War The year is 1936, and the world stands at the edge of a precipice, staring down into an abyss of old rivalries, irreparable insults, festering wounds and world-spanning ambitions.  Despite periods of unrest and turmoil, Al Andalus has retained its position as one of the Great Powers, reborn as the Socialist Union of Iberia. A former soldier, revolutionary and political theorist has risen to dominate this union, with Maz Mazin ruling as Supreme Leader of Iberia, with the autocratic ruler labelled a dictator by critics and rivals, both within the peninsula and without.   Maz Mazin has managed to assert his rule over the Iberian peninsula, and though the underlying agitation occasionally bubbles to the surface, the Supreme Leader has managed to keep his populace in tow through relentless propaganda and fear-mongering campaigns. And with the Frankish Realm looming large to the north, many would argue that the fear-mongering was well-justified.   Led by Jacques Vernier, the Frankish Realm boasts the largest army in Europe, along with immense manpower reserves to draw from, in addition to their impressive industrial base and respectable navy. The fascists have no shortage of enemies, however, as their call to unite the continent under Paris has been met with scorn and alarm in equal parts. Needless to say, l’Commandant’s promises to revive the Frankish empire of old will soon be tested.    Emerging as one of their major rivals, however, the Franks will have to keep a cautious eye on the south, where the Almoravid Sultanate of Morocco desperately attempts to preserve the status quo.   With Ajjedig Almoravid seizing the reigns of power at the turn of the century, Morocco has undergone an impressive revival in recent years, expanding their army and navy in an effort to match the growing strength of their rivals. The sparsely-populated Maghreb has made that task harder than ever, unfortunately, with the region still suffering from the widespread devastation inflicted during the Great War.     That said, the Almoravids have never really drawn their power from the Maghreb, with their overseas colonies in East Africa and India providing them with the soldiers and money to wage their wars, despite the near-constant eruption of mutinies and rebellions.   By far their most profitable possession, however, has to be the dominion of Usturaliya, a highly-populated and resource-rich behemoth that stretches across Indonesia and Oceania, challenged only by Frankish possessions in Indochina and Australia.  The Franks have devoted little attention to their overseas territories, however, with their ambitions largely devoted to the European mainland. Over the past ten years, however, their grand aspirations have been held in check by Russia, perhaps the only undisputed victor of the Great War.   Despite boasting the largest industrial capacity in Europe, the Russians have gradually drifted towards an isolationist policy in recent years, with the rise of socialism turning the electorate against foreign entanglements and costly conflicts — a development that has been met with resounding applaud in Paris, no doubt.     And though Smolensk will have their guns pointing west, they would do well to keep a wary eye on their southern border, where the Balkan Federation has gradually been solidifying their rule, expanding their industries and drawing up ambitious warplans.   Nonetheless, the Presidium of Belgrade still can’t hold a candle to their formidable neighbours, with a series of corruption crises also damaging their popularity at home, making their position untenable without extensive reform.    And smack in the middle of everyone is the German Reich, with their defeat and castration during the Great War giving rise to an escalation of tensions and extremist parties, with the feuding liberals, socialists and fascists now embroiled in a conflict that promises to explode into civil war.   To the south, meanwhile, Marrakesh maintains a cautious approach with the Kingdom of Benin, the last remaining native power in Africa. The kingdom’s recent defeats have led to rising fascist sympathies, however, with radical demagogues and firebrands calling for war with the Khedivate of the Kongo, left severely weakened in the aftermath of the Great War.    Pushing eastward, the Treaty of Prague has established a new balance of power in the Middle East, with the Crusader Kingdom of Egypt and the Vali Emirate rewarded with Jerusalem, Lebanon, Syria and Jordan, whilst the Khwarezmian Empire was placated with western Afghanistan. Tensions over the finer details of this treaty have surged in recent years, however, with new lines being drawn between the former allies and friends.     And even further east, we come to the Empire of China, which was reunited under the Guang dynasty in the dying years of the nineteenth century, ushering in a honeymoon period that would come to an end far too quickly, far too soon.   Having suffered a series of decisive defeats to Japan, Mongolia and Yereven in the past decade alone, the Guang are firmly on the decline, with their humiliating losses matched only by the immense devastation, widespread famine and internal dissent borne from them.     And that won’t be the end of it, with rumours spreading of a revival in Mongol-Yereven relations in recent months, perhaps in anticipation of a renewed invasion into China — and this time, they won’t stop until the country is utterly and completely crushed.    Of course, little happens without news reaching the land of rising sun, where the Revolutionary Republic of Japan stands poised to reclaim their long-lost empire, torn from them by the western powers decades past.   In the years following the Treaty of Edo, Japan has launched an ambitious and largely-successful rearmament program, fielding one of the largest armies and navies in Asia by 1936. This military expansion did not come cheap, however, with the resulting decline in economic conditions triggering a rise in radicalism amongst the general population. This wave of extremism will have to be tackled before long, else the military government may find themselves below the ground far sooner than they’d like.    Across the stormy waves of the Pacific Ocean, meanwhile, the continents of Gharbia have not been immune to the recent instability. The Union of Berber Sultanates has proven to be particularly prone to market weaknesses and domestic unrest, weakening their once-indisputable hold on South Gharbia just enough for revolutions to take hold in the Occidental and Andean Republics, where anti-Imariz governments have already been established.   These unfavourable developments have forced Imariz to finally abandon their century-long policy of isolation, with the Three Viziers of Imjir, Walidrar and Nuquril determined to restore their puppets in neighbouring states, extend their influence into Ibriz and the Caribbean, and finally challenge the Kingdom of New England for the uncontested dominance of Gharbia.   In response, Charles Windham of New England has adopted an equally-aggressive policy, with the Prime Minister already working to strengthen his puppet in Taghzir, fortify his allies in Panama, and even restore the “democratic” regime in North Ibriz, recently-overthrown by an Islamic revolution.   And with the world’s largest navy at his beck and call, the Prime Minister isn’t a man to be underestimated, hindered only by the market panics plaguing the western democracies, along with a number of highly-publicised scandals and corruption allegations.     For now, however, the Berber Union and New England are both content to watch and wait. The tensions simmering between the People’s Republic of Ibriz and the Islamic Republic of Ibriz have manifested in a series of border conflicts, with bullets exchanged and lives lost already. War is on the horizon, that much is certain, promising to plunge the entirety of the western hemisphere into chaos and bedlam with it.    With that short summary overwith, we can turn back to the Socialist Union of Iberia, the bastion of communism in the West.  Iberia was left weaker than ever in the aftermath of the Great War, but has rapidly recovered in the decade that followed to emerge as one of the dominating powers in Europe once more, with a formidable standing army and respectable navy, although both remain heavily outnumbered by Frankish and Moroccan forces.   The past decade has also seen the communist regime solidify their grasp on power, led by the watchful and capable Maz Mazin, with the Supreme Leader ruthlessly crushing any opposition movements, determinedly expanding local industries and relentlessly pursuing secret rearmament schemes.    Any attempts to properly re-arm have been heavily hampered by the terms of the Treaty of Prague, however, with the peace also mandating the forced demilitarisation of the Pyrenees — a humiliating condition that continues to irk the politicians of Iberia.  That said, the Peace of Prague hasn’t halted rearmament efforts, not by a long shot. Thanks largely to the efforts of Maz Mazin, the Red Army currently stands at 350,000-strong, composed of a strong core of experienced infantry and reinforced with a few armoured divisions. The army is organised into two defensive lines, one of which stretches along the southern coast of Iberia, and the other just short of the demilitarised zone. Regional levies have also been raised in recent months, though they are ill-trained and poorly-armed, largely assigned to garrison duty in rebellious cities and important harbours.   The Red Navy has also enjoyed some growth in recent years, divided into three squadrons — the Atlantic Fleet, based at Al-Gharb and comprised of 3 battleships, 5 heavy cruisers, 6 light cruisers and 18 destroyers; the Mediterranean Fleet, based at Port Jizrunid and comprised of 2 battleships, 4 light cruisers and 12 destroyers; and the Submarine Fleet, based at Qartayannat and comprised of 15 submarines. The vast majority of these vessels were constructed over the past decade, so they are fairly modern and very promising, albeit severely lacking in combat experience.    As for industry, most of our military factories are currently tasked with closing the equipment deficit, whilst dockyards are geared towards destroyer and submarine production. There is also heavy investment into construction of new military and civilian factories, along with the occasional dockyard, though a considerable amount of factories are still tied down in the production of consumer goods.   The immediate future of Iberia is precarious and uncertain, to say the least, with the union surrounded by enemies and outnumbered on every front. That’s not to say our doom is set in stone, however, with a wealth of possibilities to explore, potential allies in unforeseen places, and undiscovered weapons that promise to change the very face of the earth.  These past ten years may have given us a merciful respite, but they’ve been nothing more than a lengthy armistice, one that will break very soon. We’re reaching the last leg now, and with the end in sight, there is no room left for any lapses. It’s been a long story, with highs and lows for everyone involved, but this chronicle is finally coming to a close. Ledger:  World map: Factions map: 
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