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Can Atlus get worse? New studies by scientists point to yes.
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Feb 16, 2019 05:19
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Oh god jesus. 
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Feb 16, 2019 05:22
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hmm this doesn't seem like a good video game
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Feb 16, 2019 05:33
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Ciaphas posted:i can run more than one research center, right? dreadfully slow process, that oh yeah you can. only limited by resources and power. higher tech lets you generate both faster other planets have more valuable research items to speed the process along as well
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Feb 16, 2019 05:37
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Snooze Cruise posted:hmm this doesn't seem like a good video game I just wanna know if it's not too late to get a transfer on that first Smash Ultimate DLC character from Joker to something...not from Studio P? Like if it still has to be an Atlus character then just swap him with...I dunno Jack Frost? Mara? I'll take Mara.
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Feb 16, 2019 05:45
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Welp, don't have to touch Catherine ever. I guess Atlus just wants to kill its own profits.
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Feb 16, 2019 05:54
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Sanzuo posted:
What game is that?
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Feb 16, 2019 05:54
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FirstAidKite posted:What game is that? Astroneer. kind of like subnautica + digdug
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Feb 16, 2019 05:55
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It looks very cute and I look forward to trying it some time down the line
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Feb 16, 2019 05:59
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what the gently caress i cant believe they found a way to be more transphobic than the original game
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Feb 16, 2019 05:59
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Japan is many things, but progressive towards LGBT rights is not one of them.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:13
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Infinitum posted:Japan is many things, but progressive towards LGBT rights is not one of them.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:16
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Changing the subject from a poo poo company being poo poo, tetris royale got me thinking about whether it would be possible to make a workable turn based BR. I'm thinking something like civ's simultaneous turns, but with each player only controlling one unit, or a small few that are kept near each other but still controlled independently, on like a 5 second turn clock. It would need to be short not to be tedious or give too much advantage to people waiting until the very end, but 5 seconds might be too short if menus are involved.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:23
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Infinitum posted:Japan is many things, but progressive towards LGBT rights is not one of them. Why do people have to bring this up every time, like yeah japan isn't super great about lgbt rights, but like that isn't like an excuse for a game to be lovely about them and I have played plenty of japanese games where i was like "oh this cooler with LGBT stuff then I seen in some western games." Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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Feb 16, 2019 06:23
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FZeroRacer posted:counterpoint: SWERY is a national treasure and deserves to be protected shame he makes such bad games
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Feb 16, 2019 06:24
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wandering son got a tv anime it's not like the nerdy circles of japan are oblivious to the current LGBT climate. this is just intentional malice
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Feb 16, 2019 06:29
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Snooze Cruise posted:Why do people have to bring this up every time, like yeah japan isn't super great about lgbt rights, but like that isn't like an excuse for a game to be lovely about them and I have played plenty of japanese games where i was like "oh this cooler with LGBT stuff then I seen in some western games." I'm not saying it's an excuse, I'm saying Japan is dragging it's rear end
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Feb 16, 2019 06:32
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Snooze Cruise posted:Why do people have to bring this up every time, like yeah japan kinda sucks on lgbt rights, but like that isn't like an excuse for a game to be lovely about them and I have played plenty of japanese games where i was like "oh this cooler with LGBT stuff then I seen in some western games." Yeah, generalizing like that kinda sucks when examples like this can be very clearly traced to the consistent trends and ideas of a particular team or director without bulldozing over the existence of better LGBT works, authors, and movements. Japan has a lovely conservative government and general culture, but if you're just gonna take it as read that people are inevitable extensions of their ruling culture, then, well. It's the sort of thinking that led to a bunch of nerds getting really angry about a trans character in a popular anime last year, because there's just no way such a thing would happen without western meddling, or people being completely unaware of the ongoing-literally-today gay marriage movement.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:33
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Infinitum posted:I'm not saying it's an excuse, I'm saying Japan is dragging it's rear end Why bring it up in this context?
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Feb 16, 2019 06:33
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Infinitum posted:I'm not saying it's an excuse, I'm saying Japan is dragging it's rear end It turns out old conservatives are bad everywhere, but they aren't the entire country. Himote House had an entire episode that directly advocated for gay rights. chumbler fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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Feb 16, 2019 06:34
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Apparently Catherine goes back in time and fixes a lot of poo poo with Vincent and his friends; one of the things she does is cure Eric's body dysmorphia. Frankly i'm more surprised that they didn't also make him straight, given how unfriendly they are towards gay dudes.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:34
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Reports are that it's the specific director Hoshino and his views, don't throw an entire country under the bus when they complained about Erica's treatment in the original
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Feb 16, 2019 06:34
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I mean, its Atlus. Their flagship franchise doesnt care for gay or trans people either. Aso Japan just passed some regressive laws regarding trans people so, sigh.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:34
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Also from that thread:quote:Hello, trans woman who works in the industry and also is about a dozen hours into the Japanese version of Full Body here. A few things:
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Feb 16, 2019 06:37
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But how's the netcode?
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Feb 16, 2019 06:40
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Wait I thought Rin had no genitals at all because of the whole is an alien thing. <big spoils
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Feb 16, 2019 06:44
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I don't know everything about the Rin stuff but I just want to say I think its weird that people thought like the alien somehow made things ok when it was still like clearly playing into trans panic stuff with how it was marketed. Like yeah when I saw the spoiler for that I laughed and poo poo, but I didn't get that attitude certain people had where it like cleanse away the former.
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Feb 16, 2019 06:46
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not to derail the shatlus posts, but heck yeah with Yoshi's Woolly World down, that's the last uncompleted physical wii u game I have, now I can switch out the system with the Switch and start actually playing that again, maybe
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Feb 16, 2019 06:47
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Grapplejack posted:Wait I thought Rin had no genitals at all because of the whole is an alien thing. <big spoils
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Feb 16, 2019 06:52
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Snooze Cruise posted:Why bring it up in this context? Because it's a game developed by a Japanese studio?
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Feb 16, 2019 07:00
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Not like the rest of the world is that much better about trans people than Japan.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:11
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Infinitum posted:Because it's a game developed by a Japanese studio? But do people make that statement about any western game or piece of media that is lovely about minorities? Because If this was a western game I bet most people wouldn't be saying: Infinitum posted:America is many things, but progressive towards LGBT rights is not one of them. Even though hell, it would still be somewhat true. e: I hope that isn't sounding like I am like belittling the progress that has been made in America. Its just this type of framing is weird and bad. e2: like its bad on two fronts, like Motto cover the bulldozing of LGBT works and movements in Japan, and then it like frames the west as being SUPER COOL and GREAT on these issues which creates a bubble where people believe that without realizing there is so much more to be done. Snooze Cruise fucked around with this message at 07:21 on Feb 16, 2019 |
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Feb 16, 2019 07:12
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So I'm playing my way through Horizon: Zero Dawn and I realized it does a better job of being Mass Effect 3 than ME3 did. Totally captures bleakness and hope struggling against all sensible odds and poo poo. And the dumb fetch quests you grind for levels kind of have an effect on the late game. The infodumps about all the background lore and history started giving me anxiety. It's very rooted in We hosed Everything Up and it's kind of amazing.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:13
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Infinitum posted:Japan is many things, but progressive towards LGBT rights is not one of them. Persona 5, another game by Atlus, a game I absolutely loved, has a few problems similar to this kind of thing that are kind of gross and it sucks because the game is otherwise so good. There's two gay dudes in the game that are brought up twice, and they handled completely as a joke and their portrayal is so lovely and offensive.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:13
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Speaking of LGBT, how were we supposed to feel about Mr Gold and Mr Silver in God Hand? They’re super campy gay in a way I haven’t really seen in video games, and I don’t know what to think of them, maybe a smart person could say whether they’re okay or not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pnBXFgOP8Y Good game tho
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Feb 16, 2019 07:21
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The most offensive part of persona 5 is the translation
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Feb 16, 2019 07:25
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There's plenty of lovely country and conglomerate leadership at home and abroad to piss from the cloud and into our mouths. Down with the system.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:33
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In Training posted:The most offensive part of persona 5 is the translation Wrong, it's not being able to Social Link with Makoto's older sister.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:34
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Snooze Cruise posted:But do people make that statement about any western game or piece of media that is lovely about minorities? Because Yes posters basically do that all the time categorizing all "western games" as one type in these forums.
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Feb 16, 2019 07:34
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Atlus being terrible on that front isn't very surprising. That said, I really didn't expect them to go backwards that much
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