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Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
I read a little about the differences between Gogeta and Vegito and I guess Vegito's thing is completely loving steamrolling his opponents with brute strength and Gogeta is all about finesse and technique to overwhelm and counter any opponent? And that Vegito in the end is stronger but in a fast battle Gogeta would have the upper hand?
Also independent of anything either would be the absolute strongest non angelic being in the universe

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tribladeofchaos posted:

He’s a creep towards women, young girls especially. Treats convention workers like crap and lovely about gay people.

He's also been at all of this for two decades at least (there are testimonies even from before he became a voice actor), and got away with it because until the start of February, the boss of the main company he worked for was a friend and business partner of Rick Santorum.

The reason all this kicked off suddenly was not actually because of Broly, but because a big name fan with a lot of industry connections turned out to be a serial child groomer and rapist, which panicked the Western anime community into finally clearing out its notorious pervs just in case they were hiding something similarly horrible.

Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 17, 2019

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Yeah he had lovely and creepy behavior. The biggest issue is that he kept it up for years.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Calaveron posted:

I read a little about the differences between Gogeta and Vegito and I guess Vegito's thing is completely loving steamrolling his opponents with brute strength and Gogeta is all about finesse and technique to overwhelm and counter any opponent? And that Vegito in the end is stronger but in a fast battle Gogeta would have the upper hand?
Also independent of anything either would be the absolute strongest non angelic being in the universe

It's hard to say given neither of them have had many appearances outside of poo poo getting extremely real. Would make a degree of sense with Gogeta the being less powerful of the two.

Could be funny to have an arc where Gotenks is running around and Goku and Vegeta figure that they might understand their fused sons better if they fused themselves. And whatever poor bastard that happens to be the villain of that arc gets absolutely obliterated.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Calaveron posted:

I read a little about the differences between Gogeta and Vegito and I guess Vegito's thing is completely loving steamrolling his opponents with brute strength and Gogeta is all about finesse and technique to overwhelm and counter any opponent? And that Vegito in the end is stronger but in a fast battle Gogeta would have the upper hand?
Also independent of anything either would be the absolute strongest non angelic being in the universe

Honestly than sounds like completely imagined fan-wankery, both the fusions are depicted as being massively strong & fast and both have highly specialised unique kai techniques. If there's a difference between the two it's that Vegito talks more and his form will inevitably crap out before he can seal the deal and Gogeta is all business and gets the job done.

No Dignity fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Feb 17, 2019

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

So then who's gonna replace him? I hope they dont just leave in the Japanese screams, every time I hear them I think of Wapol from One Piece

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:

multijoe posted:

Honestly than sounds like completely imagined fan-wankery, both the fusions are depicted as being massively strong & fast and both have highly specialised unique kai techniques. If there's a difference between the two it's that Vegito talks more and his form will inevitably crap out before he can seal the deal and Gogeta is all business and gets the job done.

I mean I got the information from a wikia and yeah it's probably wankery but at least it's consistent in that Gogeta seems to have the flashier moves like stardust breaker while Vegito is all massive ki blasts and tremendous punches

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

multijoe posted:

Honestly than sounds like completely imagined fan-wankery, both the fusions are depicted as being massively strong & fast and both have highly specialised unique kai techniques. If there's a difference between the two it's that Vegito talks more and his form will inevitably crap out before he can seal the deal and Gogeta is all business and gets the job done.

I do wonder if that has some relation to the nature of their fusions. One of the big differences between the Fusion Dance and Potarra Earrings is that the latter is easy to do (as long as you either have pierced ears or don't mind piercing them) to the point where it could happen by accident, while the former is a complex and silly looking physical technique that requires a specific level of coordination and skill to pull off properly. Vegito comes about with a 'gently caress it, let's get this over with' while Gogeta requires active effort to form.

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I think it’s because that’s what they are known for and we are in the age of DBZ nostalgia where stuff like Frieza and Broly coming back are gonna be the norm rather than exceptions.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
Fusions are like eggs, you can prepare them in different ways and they look different and are called different names, but they're still eggs and taste about the same.

Slightly Absurd
Mar 22, 2004


Yeah, the Potara thing in Super was pretty dumb, in my opinion. That kind of fusion sounded terrifying, like basically committing suicide, in order to become freaky powerful to save everyone. And then Vegito doesn't even get to do anything cool before reverting back.

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

hottake: yammuros designs would have looked fine if super had both a proper pre-production process and a 2 cour format.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Parrotine posted:

So then who's gonna replace him? I hope they dont just leave in the Japanese screams, every time I hear them I think of Wapol from One Piece

I mean, he does more than just scream. He talks. They're gonna need someone for that, yeah. There's no replacement yet, but we'll have one by the time he comes to FighterZ. The Blu-Ray of the movie is coming out in April, and I'm not sure if they wanna go through the rush of recasting and rerecording in time for that or not.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
Would you look at that, Midget GP Goku was edited

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I like midget Goku better

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Would you look at that, Midget GP Goku was edited



Would you look at that, it's still terrible.

Bumper Stickup
Jan 7, 2012

Mmm... Offshore Toast!


Grimey Drawer

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

Would you look at that, Midget GP Goku was edited



So like are his muscles just pushed up into his shoulders while wearing that? He's got a serious case of U6 Saiyan going on there.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/ginta_gill/status/1097075294350049282

Siayan :v:

No but seriously, Vegito 4 looks fantastic.

Burkion
May 10, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Xeno Vegito SSJ 4 is probably the best looking SSJ4

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Calaveron posted:

I mean I got the information from a wikia and yeah it's probably wankery but at least it's consistent in that Gogeta seems to have the flashier moves like stardust breaker while Vegito is all massive ki blasts and tremendous punches

I don't really see it, Gogeta's moveset in Broly was also mainly massive punches and devastatingly powerful kai attacks and the Stardust Breaker was really just chucked in as an afterthought as a shout out to Fusion Reborn. Really I think the main difference in their depictions in Vegito's only appeared in the anime and Gogeta's only appeared in films, where's theres alot more time and budget to make everything he does look sick nasty.

And come on, for raw power & intensity Gogeta's killshot Kamehameha cleared has Vegito's incredibly lame Final Kamehameha beat hands down.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

multijoe posted:

I don't really see it, Gogeta's moveset in Broly was also mainly massive punches and devastatingly powerful kai attacks and the Stardust Breaker was really just chucked in as an afterthought as a shout out to Fusion Reborn. Really I think the main difference in their depictions in Vegito's only appeared in the anime and Gogeta's only appeared in films, where's theres alot more time and budget to make everything he does look sick nasty.

And come on, for raw power & intensity Gogeta's killshot Kamehameha cleared has Vegito's incredibly lame Final Kamehameha beat hands down.

Yes but Final Kamehameha sounds cooler and is therefore better. :colbert:

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
When Vegito was originally introduced, he was the one who was so powerful that he could fight elegantly, with his arms crossed and only using kicks to humiliate the opponent, and being the only character able to create swords/blades out of solidified ki.

Gogeta on the other hand was the one that was for the kill shot with no real fancy techniques beyond Soul Punisher. GT Gogeta kind of mixed both versions while adding the troll angle.

Vegito Blue simply took stuff from the videogames and now the Gogeta Blue is a thing, there's no real difference between the two of them, beyond whatever choices budget and time allow the animators to take.

Dias
Feb 20, 2011

by sebmojo
I just gave you the perfect definition for the fusions and y'all chose to ignore it. SMH over here.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I love fanart that isn't just cool fighting poses or battle scenes

https://twitter.com/Miyabi_DB_3/status/1033326300075720705

https://twitter.com/Miyabi_DB_3/status/963055580867837952

https://twitter.com/Miyabi_DB_3/status/950739924898033666

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

I am begrudgingly coming around on SSJ4 Gogeta, the crimson hair & fur do alot to make the form work

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

You mean ssj4 super saiyan god gogeta

zelah
Dec 1, 2004

Diabetes, you are not invited to my pizza party.
Episode 2 of Super implies that Vegeta is only mad all the time because he’s hungry. I’m also very into him getting lost in a crowd because he’s short.

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

I am totally fine with pretending that SSj4 Gogeta was so powerful he brute forced his way into God ki, and figure they took inspiration for God's look from that design anyways since it really does look good

Also with the Super Dragon Balls and the GT finale plot, they have a perfectly good excuse to bust out 7 omega powerful enemies if they reuse the Dark Dragons idea with the Supers instead

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Vegito was loving around in his fight because he wasn't trying to kill Buu outright, he was looking for a way to rescue everyone that he had absorbed. That wasn't the case with Janemba, so he got Stardusted

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
I was gonna say for what's it worth in the Dokkan games, Vegito stilll does his cross arms, kick stuff, plus he counters every time he attacks (well most of his cards)

Gogeta Blue in the game is the hard hitter.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Ghost Leviathan posted:

It's hard to say given neither of them have had many appearances outside of poo poo getting extremely real. Would make a degree of sense with Gogeta the being less powerful of the two.

Could be funny to have an arc where Gotenks is running around and Goku and Vegeta figure that they might understand their fused sons better if they fused themselves. And whatever poor bastard that happens to be the villain of that arc gets absolutely obliterated.

SS3 Gotenks and SSGSS Gogeta fuse to form SSGSS3 Gogotenkgetas, which lasts for about 30 seconds

Improbable Lobster fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Feb 17, 2019

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Universe Six and Universe Seven fuse into Universe Sixen

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

They should do more with Goten and Trunks.
no they shouldn't

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011

have kefla beat up gotenks

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

I respect Goten and Trunks getting shafted, but I don't care enough about them to want to see something done about it, especially in a genre where little kids endlessly reign in favor of the unusual 40+ year old protags

bowmore
Oct 6, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
more prefer to see much more of the universe 6 crew and never see trunks and goten again, even pan is more interesting

Black August
Sep 28, 2003

I have zero qualms about saying that Bulla and Pan both feel way more like proper upcoming next-generation successors to Goku and Vegeta over their sons, and would be way more interesting

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
Let Saiyans Gay Marry

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Improbable Lobster posted:

Let Saiyans Gay Marry


Oh god why does goten start looking like yamcha

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Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Billzasilver posted:

Oh god why does goten start looking like yamcha

It's a weird thing in Goku's family. Gohan looked like Yamcha several times during his life as well.

Hell, didn't 19 confuse Yamcha for Goku? Maybe Yamcha is Bardock's long-lost first son, who was sent to a planet to conquer it but it was before Bardock developed empathy so he didn't care.

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