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incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Falcorum posted:

Not available in the UK, I guess THANKS CORBYN!

per reddit: an 8 part twitter upload https://twitter.com/ImIncorrigible/status/1097401579018354689?s=19

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Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Why are British people so batshit about the idea of ID cards? You already have passports, functionally the same but in a worse format. ID cards are a very practical thing. You can (or could) even use them to travel around Europe! And not having ID cards didn't stop the British government from implementing mass surveillance.

Olympic Mathlete
Feb 25, 2011

:h:


Falcorum posted:

Not available in the UK, I guess THANKS CORBYN!

If you're on a computer, Opera browser has a built in VPN which gets around this.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Lambert posted:

Why are British people so batshit about the idea of ID cards? You already have passports, functionally the same but in a worse format. ID cards are a very practical thing. You can (or could) even use them to travel around Europe! And not having ID cards didn't stop the British government from implementing mass surveillance.

Friendly notice: We already did this conversation over the last few pages let's not have a Round 2

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

SKULL.GIF posted:

Friendly notice: We already did this conversation over the last few pages let's not have a Round 2

Oh, guess I skipped too much.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Lambert posted:

Why are British people so batshit about the idea of ID cards? You already have passports, functionally the same but in a worse format. ID cards are a very practical thing. You can (or could) even use them to travel around Europe! And not having ID cards didn't stop the British government from implementing mass surveillance.

British people are actually pretty down on the whole ID cards thing, that's why it was such a big deal when New Labour tried to introduce them. Basically everywhere else in the EU actually has them.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib
Note: A smaller version of a passport is apparently bad because "centralized database" or something. I don't think people opposing it actually know what they're actually worried about.

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Lambert posted:

Note: A smaller version of a passport is apparently bad because "centralized database" or something. I don't think people opposing it actually know what they're actually worried about.

A significant difference is that ID cards as proposed were supposed to be mandatory for all citizens, passports never have been.

BobbyThompson
Mar 23, 2001

oliwan posted:

Jeremy is Jezza
Theresa is Tezza

...it's not very complicated.

Owen Jones is also known as Philby and Diane Abbott as Bettaney.

Well they are in my pub/caravan/fantasy world that prefers satire over hate.

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

Bryter posted:

A significant difference is that ID cards as proposed were supposed to be mandatory for all citizens, passports never have been.

Marmalade isn't made of JUST CITRUS FRUITS, GODDAMMIT

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Raskolnikov38 posted:

you lot have CCTV cameras every 3 feet lol

But those are private CCTV cameras so it's alright.

(The government being able to pull all those videos at a moment's notice doesn't matter. Oldest democracy in the world, home of the free! Hail the Queen!)

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
Apparently The Independent Group is willing to let Sex Pests join. There is talk about both Woodcock and Ivan Lewis joining.

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica
What problems would an identity card solve for people, rather than police or business?

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Crowsbeak posted:

Apparently The Independent Group is willing to let Sex Pests join. There is talk about both Woodcock and Ivan Lewis joining.

what a wonderful shower of poo poo

Lambert
Apr 15, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Fallen Rib

papa horny michael posted:

What problems would an identity card solve for people, rather than police or business?

Having a small ID card to travel with as well as for use in daily life when you need it is very convenient. There's a reason so many countries have one.

Jon Pod Van Damm
Apr 6, 2009

THE POSSESSION OF WEALTH IS IN AND OF ITSELF A SIGN OF POOR VIRTUE. AS SUCH:
1 NEVER TRUST ANY RICH PERSON.
2 NEVER HIRE ANY RICH PERSON.
BY RULE 1, IT IS APPROPRIATE TO PRESUME THAT ALL DEGREES AND CREDENTIALS HELD BY A WEALTHY PERSON ARE FRAUDULENT. THIS JUSTIFIES RULE 2--RULE 1 NEEDS NO JUSTIFIC



https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1097561758598860801

Captain No-mates
Apr 3, 2010

I hate them a lot

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010




We are going to have one of them just casually and unprompted say Hitler did nothing wrong by the end of the week

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



oddly enough the news headlines do not seem to be picking up the story that the MPs who delivered a sharp rebuke to the left-wing labour leader over his anti-semitism are also racists and sex pests

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



so do these guys just get to sit there and keep their old seats despite the voters having presumably voted for the policies of the labour party because if so how is this different from the american system

Captain No-mates
Apr 3, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

so do these guys just get to sit there and keep their old seats despite the voters having presumably voted for the policies of the labour party because if so how is this different from the american system

:decorum: dictates that they should have a by-election but nothing says they have to and no-one in the media will call them out

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



who decides if there is a by-election? may?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

ah, memories

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Hello British dudes

Is the Brexit thing pretty much inevitable for March 29th?

marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

Shear Modulus posted:

who decides if there is a by-election? may?

It’s up to the MP who is changing party.

actionjackson posted:

Hello British dudes

Is the Brexit thing pretty much inevitable for March 29th?

yes we will be crashing out with no deal on March 29

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS
hohoho

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1097577179209179139

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



marktheando posted:

It’s up to the MP who is changing party.

lol

quote:

yes we will be crashing out with no deal on March 29

lol

Captain No-mates
Apr 3, 2010

Shear Modulus posted:

who decides if there is a by-election? may?

someone correct me if im wrong but i think its the sitting mp lmao

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
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actionjackson posted:

Hello British dudes

Is the Brexit thing pretty much inevitable for March 29th?
I'm not British, but I think I can give you the standard MP response:

*runs off on his bike, grinning like a twat*

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Captain No-mates posted:

someone correct me if im wrong but i think its the sitting mp lmao

This is correct

Your MP is in post until the next general election unless a) they're in prison for over a year plus a really convoluted recall ballot procedure that will basically never happen or b) they resign (and because we can't do anything straightforwardly you can't actually resign as an MP, instead you take up an ancient ceremonial role that can't be held by an MP and therefore cease being one)

Or they die. That one's straightforward.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
So if TIG is a home for dim children despised by their CLP, what's up with angela eagle?

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


marktheando posted:

It’s up to the MP who is changing party.


yes we will be crashing out with no deal on March 29

:hai:

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


30.5 Days posted:

So if TIG is a home for dim children despised by their CLP, what's up with angela eagle?

some of the dim children are less dim than others

BioMe
Aug 9, 2012


SardonicTyrant posted:

I'm not British, but I think I can give you the standard MP response:

*runs off on his bike, grinning like a twat*

Between him and Cameron literally walking away happily whistling after taking the giant dump that is brexit on UK's lawn these inner-cricle fuckers are so open about being above consequences it's almost like they are daring British peasants to finally figure out guillotines.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006

Hentai Jihadist posted:

some of the dim children are less dim than others

Is she likely to survive selection though?

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

BioMe posted:

Between him and Cameron literally walking away happily whistling after taking the giant dump that is brexit on UK's lawn these inner-cricle fuckers are so open about being above consequences it's almost like they are daring British peasants to finally figure out guillotines.

Between that & the slashing of police budgets you might be right! here's hoping the peasants/we figure it out.

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010

Party Boat posted:

b) they resign (and because we can't do anything straightforwardly you can't actually resign as an MP, instead you take up an ancient ceremonial role that can't be held by an MP and therefore cease being one)

lmfao no way

Bryter
Nov 6, 2011

but since we are small we may-
uh, we may be the losers

Syncopated posted:

lmfao no way

https://www.thejournal.ie/meet-the-new-crown-steward-and-bailiff-of-the-manor-of-northstead-73530-Jan2011/

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
Why have they put the word independent in their name when their only strong characteristic is being anti-brexit?

I suspect they may not be good at this but honestly I think they are just lazily hissy fitting and helping the next tory/lib dem coalition in. Any money they will primarily stand candidates in marginals that hurt Labour.

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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

They would have called themselves The Democratic Party if they thought they could get away with it.

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