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glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014



Frankly, I'm more upset about how he's dulling those axes hitting the ground.

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mike12345
Jul 14, 2008

"Whether the Earth was created in 7 days, or 7 actual eras, I'm not sure we'll ever be able to answer that. It's one of the great mysteries."






I hear Frontline Assembly when I look at this

Testvan
Nov 10, 2003
God is an idiot if the eruv wire fools him into thinking your house is the whole city.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Testvan posted:

God is an idiot

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Testvan posted:

God is an idiot if the eruv wire fools him into thinking your house is the whole city.

Jewish rules lawyering is entirely based on the premise that God only wants people to exactly follow the letter of his demands and will just kinda throw up his hands and shrug if you find a way to scam him.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Testvan posted:

God is an idiot if the eruv wire fools him into thinking your house is the whole city.

Not to restart Theologychat, but nobody thinks they're tricking God.

They're impressing him with their rules lawyering of the Torah. Which if God enjoys getting rules lawyer'd, explains an awful lot about man being made in his image and the current state of affairs.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
its more like god entered a contract with them and its not perfectly itemized, then also said that majority rules on interpretation because hes certainly not going to show up and ammend it

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


drunkill posted:

Who needs ankles anyway?

I've been around enough loggers to know that he's likely wearing chainmail socks:

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Kith posted:

I've been around enough loggers to know that he's likely wearing chainmail socks:



I wear a mythril man-kini at all times.

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

Craptacular posted:

I want to see him use his own finger. Sort of like Richard Davis, the guy who invented modern kevlar body armor.

He actually does exactly that in the full video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiYoBbEZwlk&t=230s

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

xergm posted:

He actually does exactly that in the full video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiYoBbEZwlk&t=230s

No not finger, I want him to stick his WIENER in it.

Yawgmoth
Sep 10, 2003

This post is cursed!

LifeSunDeath posted:

I wear a mythril man-kini at all times.
Lord of the Rings porn parody lookin good

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

One of those choice rounds appears to have been pre-split.
In fairness, he chopped it perpendicular to the split, but how many others were also split before he went at them?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

wesleywillis posted:

One of those choice rounds appears to have been pre-split.
In fairness, he chopped it perpendicular to the split, but how many others were also split before he went at them?

IDK but he's taking more time than he would have with just a single ax so someone buy him a forums account with the name Slowax.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

I don’t know about eruvs but I know some Orthodox functions can only be performed by other Jews. Repairing an eruv may be something like that.

Doom Mathematic
Sep 2, 2008

Thomamelas posted:

Generally most eruvs will have private maintenance staff for this. They tend to find that their level of urgency isn't matched by local governments. It's possible that in some places like Israel, you might find the eruv is a local government function but in most places it's private.

In other words, eruvs create jobs!

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://i.imgur.com/qT6kdhA.gifv

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

chitoryu12 posted:

Jewish rules lawyering is entirely based on the premise that God only wants people to exactly follow the letter of his demands and will just kinda throw up his hands and shrug if you find a way to scam him.

I mean, if I managed to create a race of monkeys with severe anxiety issues, and they managed to pull a fast one on me after I told them to stop loving about with the lightswitch by removing the bulb instead, I'd probably allow it too.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Just sounds like bog standard kid-having to me.

Golbez
Oct 9, 2002

1 2 3!
If you want to take a shot at me get in line, line
1 2 3!
Baby, I've had all my shots and I'm fine

drunkill posted:

Its a huge area of the south east bayside suburbs. ALso as noted by someone else, there is an inner hole around a park with a lake in it.


$60,000 a year to maintain for around 350 people who are ultra orthodox who use it. They have an app now.

I'm shocked at how huge this area is, and yet doesn't touch the CBD. And was curious about why it excludes Landcox Park:

"Lastly, all the areas to be enclosed must be "residential areas," or areas suitable for residential areas. It is not permitted to include bodies of water [lakes, streams, and ponds, although reservoirs currently in use as drinking water sources are permitted without modification), and cemeteries. Such areas must be excluded from the Eruv by closing them off (either by not including them in the Eruv area, or by encircling them within the Eruv)."

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/eruv.html

This answers someone's earlier question about "make a tiny circle and say that everything inside the circle is outside the eruv". Nope, actually have to put effort into it.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013
Lot of "boy these people's Sky Daddy must be dumb if he can be tricked by a wire, what kind of moron would worship him in the first place :smuggo:" going on in this thread.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

packetmantis posted:

Lot of "boy these people's Sky Daddy must be dumb if he can be tricked by a wire, what kind of moron would worship him in the first place :smuggo:" going on in this thread.
nah, only post I see saying that is yours right here

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Son of Thunderbeast posted:

nah, only post I see saying that is yours right here

pretty much :lurkmore:

jobson groeth
May 17, 2018

by FactsAreUseless

packetmantis posted:

Lot of "boy these people's Sky Daddy must be dumb if he can be tricked by a wire, what kind of moron would worship him in the first place :smuggo:" going on in this thread.

That's not how it reads to me, seems like a lot of people are interested in / impressed with how well they've got their rules lawyering game down. If you've got a G-d that likes to see you use your brain to try outsmart him and you're pulling that sort of stuff it's pretty cool.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

jobson groeth posted:

That's not how it reads to me, seems like a lot of people are interested in / impressed with how well they've got their rules lawyering game down. If you've got a G-d that likes to see you use your brain to try outsmart him and you're pulling that sort of stuff it's pretty cool.

yeah I'd have much rather had that god than the pentecostal one that was offered to me as my only choice. that one hated gays and women and voted straight ticket republican.

cyberbug
Sep 30, 2004

The name is Carl Seltz...
insurance inspector.

zedprime posted:

But that's also a reason that gets deceptive. Yes, you learn statistics, and then get safety factors presented in terms of statistics. But do you really understand what 1/1000 years means versus 1/10000? Then ok, an incident happens. How do we figure if it's a big Bayesian deal or a little Bayesian deal.

I don't know it's something you teach at an undergrad level because to understand, really understand, you get into a swampy mess of advanced statistics and some psychology. And with functional excellence maybe that's ok to have an expert on the subject who can direct and on the job train generalists but with the STEM shortage I feel like several someone's are going to get hung out to dry in a really tragic way with the level of safe design presented in an average undergrad.
I took a course in safety-critical systems in a university of technology (textbook was Safeware by Leveson) and it covered a whole bunch of incidents including Therac-25, Challenger and Chernobyl. Unfortunately the final conclusion was pretty much that once a system is complex enough, you cannot really use statistical or formal methods to guarantee the safety, since you can't enumerate all the possible chains of events leading to failures and even if you could, you don't really know all the probabilities involved.

But "complex enough" is something like a mission to another planet, not a goddamn beamgun like Therac-25. For something like it, having at the core, some pretty simple life-critical functionality, there is no excuse to not design, implement and analyse (and prove correct, if feasible) the simplest possible safe inner loop (in hardware and software) and build everything else around that.

Previous models had hardware interlocks to prevent such faults, but the Therac-25 had removed them, depending instead on software checks for safety...

The wikipedia article blames the "overconfidence of the engineers" (twice in one paragraph!) but if you read through the whole incident it's pretty loving apparent that it's the managers and accountants pulling the strings all the way.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
I'm not impressed with it. If you're that invested in not following a dumb rule because it's inconvenient and gets in the way of your life, stop following it. I mean surely that'd be using your god-given intelligence.

cyberbug
Sep 30, 2004

The name is Carl Seltz...
insurance inspector.

chitoryu12 posted:

Jewish rules lawyering is entirely based on the premise that God only wants people to exactly follow the letter of his demands and will just kinda throw up his hands and shrug if you find a way to scam him.
It's not just the Jews. Some creative rule interpretation from Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia I've heard:
- If you drink booze in a room with no outside windows, god doesn't see it and it's ok
- If you drink booze from a cup that's not transparent, god doesn't see it and it's ok

See also: Mormons and the Salt Lake City Olympic Games (oh no... no one's going to sit through all this without any booze... well we can make an exception this time... holy poo poo look at the alcohol tax revenue! Maybe this wasn't such a bad idea...)

SardonicTyrant
Feb 26, 2016

BTICH IM A NEWT
熱くなれ夢みた明日を
必ずいつかつかまえる
走り出せ振り向くことなく
&



cyberbug posted:

It's not just the Jews. Some creative rule interpretation from Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia I've heard:
- If you drink booze in a room with no outside windows, god doesn't see it and it's ok
- If you drink booze from a cup that's not transparent, god doesn't see it and it's ok

See also: Mormons and the Salt Lake City Olympic Games (oh no... no one's going to sit through all this without any booze... well we can make an exception this time... holy poo poo look at the alcohol tax revenue! Maybe this wasn't such a bad idea...)
Just gonna drop this single word here:

Soaking

The Dark One
Aug 19, 2005

I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!
Oh, you know, just a few paint-buckets of uranium ore lying around in a museum for some reason.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona/2019/02/18/grand-canyon-tourists-exposed-radiation-safety-manager-says/2876435002/

Delpino
May 12, 2001
Forum Veteran

Was just coming here to post this.

"Stephenson said the containers were stored next to a taxidermy exhibit, where children on tours sometimes stopped for presentations, sitting next to uranium for 30 minutes or more. By his calculation, those children could have received radiation dosages in excess of federal safety standards within three seconds, and adults could have suffered dangerous exposure in less than a half-minute."

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Okay but how actually dangerous?

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club



Based on the bus, this appears to be in Brazil. There seems to be a big uptick in street performers (and random bums) cosplaying as the PS4 Spiderman recently. There's now an rear end in a top hat in downtown Austin who harasses women and follows them around until they pose for a selfie with him. I don't know what it is about the PS4 Spiderman look in particular that seems to make it so much more common than any other character...

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

GotLag posted:

Okay but how actually dangerous?

Yeah, not to poo pooh whistleblowers, but without any other corroboration it does sound like it could just as easily be a disgruntled crank. "By his calculation, those children could have received radiation dosages" leaves a ton of wiggle room. Is he actually qualified to make that calculation? Does he have sufficient data? Or did he make some wild-rear end napkin math using the worst possible assumptions? I'm mainly a little skeptical because there are lots of teachers and such that keep a chunk of uranium ore around in their office for decades without everyone freaking out.

"As a former Army helicopter pilot who later worked as a safety manager in the Navy, Stephenson said he knew it was "bad mojo"".

And also this, flight school generally doesn't include a section on the health effects of uranium ore.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Yeah, not to poo pooh whistleblowers, but without any other corroboration it does sound like it could just as easily be a disgruntled crank. "By his calculation, those children could have received radiation dosages" leaves a ton of wiggle room. Is he actually qualified to make that calculation? Does he have sufficient data? Or did he make some wild-rear end napkin math using the worst possible assumptions? I'm mainly a little skeptical because there are lots of teachers and such that keep a chunk of uranium ore around in their office for decades without everyone freaking out.

"As a former Army helicopter pilot who later worked as a safety manager in the Navy, Stephenson said he knew it was "bad mojo"".

And also this, flight school generally doesn't include a section on the health effects of uranium ore.

Even a chunk of pure uranium metal the size of your fist isn't appreciably radioactive. You're way more likely to suffer health consequences from breathing in the ore dust than you are sitting next to a paperweight made from it.

Also, federal safety standards are hilariously conservative, having a basement in certain parts of the country with decomposed granite will exceed the federal limits quite handily.

Non-radiation Workers and the Public posted:

The dose limit to non-radiation workers and members of the public are two percent of the annual occupational dose limit. Therefore, a non-radiation worker can receive a whole body dose of no more that 0.1 rem/year from industrial ionizing radiation. This exposure would be in addition to the 0.3 rem/year from natural background radiation and the 0.05 rem/year from man-made sources such as medical x-rays.

Methylethylaldehyde fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Feb 19, 2019

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Wingnut Ninja posted:

"As a former Army helicopter pilot who later worked as a safety manager in the Navy, Stephenson said he knew it was "bad mojo"".

And also this, flight school generally doesn't include a section on the health effects of uranium ore.

Probably ought to considering the depleted uranium ammo.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Wingnut Ninja posted:

Yeah, not to poo pooh whistleblowers, but without any other corroboration it does sound like it could just as easily be a disgruntled crank. "By his calculation, those children could have received radiation dosages" leaves a ton of wiggle room. Is he actually qualified to make that calculation? Does he have sufficient data? Or did he make some wild-rear end napkin math using the worst possible assumptions? I'm mainly a little skeptical because there are lots of teachers and such that keep a chunk of uranium ore around in their office for decades without everyone freaking out.

"As a former Army helicopter pilot who later worked as a safety manager in the Navy, Stephenson said he knew it was "bad mojo"".

And also this, flight school generally doesn't include a section on the health effects of uranium ore.

Uranium ore isn't particularly dangerous unless you eat it

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

cyberbug posted:

It's not just the Jews. Some creative rule interpretation from Muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia I've heard:
- If you drink booze in a room with no outside windows, god doesn't see it and it's ok
- If you drink booze from a cup that's not transparent, god doesn't see it and it's ok

See also: Mormons and the Salt Lake City Olympic Games (oh no... no one's going to sit through all this without any booze... well we can make an exception this time... holy poo poo look at the alcohol tax revenue! Maybe this wasn't such a bad idea...)

Ok, I’m really tired of this religion derail. Not just you, but let’s move back to osha. It’s been pages and pages. Thanks!

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Xaintrailles posted:

Probably ought to considering the depleted uranium ammo.
1. Might as well talk about the health hazards of the iron and aluminum ore that went into assembling the helicopter.
2. Depleted uranium is really not radioactive, because it's been depleted of the radioactive U235. It's actually kinda useful as radiation shielding as a result.
3. The U238 that makes up most of the mass of depleted uranium is an alpha emitter, which is only significantly hazardous if it gets on/under your skin.

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Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

darthbob88 posted:

1. Might as well talk about the health hazards of the iron and aluminum ore that went into assembling the helicopter.
2. Depleted uranium is really not radioactive, because it's been depleted of the radioactive U235. It's actually kinda useful as radiation shielding as a result.
3. The U238 that makes up most of the mass of depleted uranium is an alpha emitter, which is only significantly hazardous if it gets on/under your skin.

The dust is poisonous as gently caress and does all kinds of wonky poo poo to critical enzymes in your body when absorbed through the lungs or digestive tract. And breathing in dust would qualify as 'under your skin' which is why it's seen as such a bad industrial hazard at mines and in industry.

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