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With regards to the dragster death, if an accident happens off public roads, the traffic act does not apply and it then comes to negligence legislation which is a lot less specific and a lot of the police are out of their depth when they don't have the very prescriptive traffic or criminal acts to follow. With regards to automation in mines, a lot of the driver jobs are going for sure but maintenance and logistics are not going away in great numbers - especially isolated site based stuff. Jobs like coding, law, accountancy, medicine, etc will be following drafting in the next big rounds of automation.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:With regards to automation in mines, a lot of the driver jobs are going for sure but maintenance and logistics are not going away in great numbers - especially isolated site based stuff. Jobs like coding, law, accountancy, medicine, etc will be following drafting in the next big rounds of automation. But but coding is the future? What percentage of jobs will be lost to automation? I had heard a fairly high percentage, like over 50% on most sites, but not in enough detail and I don't have a link.
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But it is Australia? E: actually gently caress that, it's a tawdry thing on its own. I'm not meaning to say it's fine I'm just wondering what can be done about it if there is no stipulation as to what kind of facility or location they're meant to go to other than a place in Australia with specialists JBP fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Feb 18, 2019 |
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clusterfuck posted:But but coding is the future? Good question, in blast, dig, truck, rail and ship operations like simple coal and iron ore mines (those not underground or requiring washing / benefaction / processing) it might be the numbers you talk about - in those the machine operators are a big chunk of the workforce although already much reduced from 20 years ago due to dramatic equipment up-sizeing that has happened. For underground and processing plants, there is not huge scope for further reductions as Aussie mines are already extensively mechanised. Further reductions in site staff is generally office workers but even there that has already happened a lot. E) for underground - further automation can tend to increase labour required due to the tricky maintenance requirements of the automation systems relative to the old days of just putting a guy on a machine and letting him hero dig out the stope under unsupported ground. Electric Wrigglies fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Feb 18, 2019 |
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here it is, the hospital on xmas island that critically ill people are going to be "medevac"'ed to under the scomo govt 
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Lol the other day Morrison claimed money for Queensland flooding is now going to Christmas island because he has to reopen it. He's such a piece of poo poo quote:After inspecting Queensland cattle farms ravaged by severe floods and winds, Mr Morrison fumed about having to spend $1.4 billion over the next four years reopening the mothballed centre on Christmas Island.
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Electric Wrigglies posted:Good question, in blast, dig, truck, rail and ship operations like simple coal and iron ore mines (those not underground or requiring washing / benefaction / processing) it might be the numbers you talk about - in those the machine operators are a big chunk of the workforce although already much reduced from 20 years ago due to dramatic equipment up-sizeing that has happened. Yeah, it's more nuanced than the simple comparison I was making. (sorry for the delayed response, I just had a fat wasp wander into the house which suddenly got 100% of my attention!). Then having a look at stuff like this. Do you think it's realistic to expect existing mine workers to upskill to the newer maintenance and tech oversight roles or is it a generational change due to the specialties involved? Do you think there's enough of a boom in battery metals like lithium, nickel and cobalt to fill the jobs role that coal currently offers?
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Electric Wrigglies posted:With regards to the dragster death, if an accident happens off public roads, the traffic act does not apply and it then comes to negligence legislation which is a lot less specific and a lot of the police are out of their depth when they don't have the very prescriptive traffic or criminal acts to follow. I can't speak to other fields but while simpler legal transactions can probably be automated (and some already are! I suppose that's what a self-checkout is) a very large part of law is about foreseeing and mitigating risk or strategising the best strategy to achieve an outcome and that's not gonna be automated any time soon.
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Knobb Manwich posted:Given centrelink and robodebt letters I'd hang onto your payslips and documentation about start date. They've got a great habit of assuming any money earned in the financial year happened during the entire financial year as a steady stream. We just got notification at work that Employers are, from April being required to report to the ATO every time they pay you(super funds have to report payments made too) and the information will be available on your Mygov account if you set one up. Hopefully it will provide a backup of proof of when, and who payed you if you lose track of your payslips and other info. it's the government so it's bound to fuckup in every way possible
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Electric Wrigglies posted:With regards to the dragster death, if an accident happens off public roads, the traffic act does not apply and it then comes to negligence legislation which is a lot less specific and a lot of the police are out of their depth when they don't have the very prescriptive traffic or criminal acts to follow. People keep saying accounting will be automated but every week or so I get a shoebox full of 10 years worth of accumulated receipts and other garbage and I have a hard time believing a computer will be better at sorting through that poo poo than a human.
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Friendly Fire posted:We just got notification at work that Employers are, from April being required to report to the ATO every time they pay you(super funds have to report payments made too) and the information will be available on your Mygov account if you set one up. I hadn’t thought of single touch payroll being a solution to the robo debt stuff but it’d probably be pretty effective. What it will do is gently caress up all the dickheads who pay themselves a wage only after the business tax is sorted and know how much they need to pay themselves so them and their wife (aka “business consultant”) are just under $37k or whatever.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Lol the other day Morrison claimed money for Queensland flooding is now going to Christmas island because he has to reopen it. He's such a piece of poo poo What an absolute piece of poo poo. Bringing them to the mainland where there are already hospitals would be too kind, I guess?
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Dude McAwesome posted:What an absolute piece of poo poo. It’d also be harder to stop them from talking to the media
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gay picnic defence posted:It’d also be harder to stop them from talking to the media Ah yeah. That makes way more sense. It’ll also stop them interacting with the public and humanising them.
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Dude McAwesome posted:Ah yeah. That makes way more sense. I can only hope that a court order will pull this malarkey up. What contempt they have for us all.
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tithin posted:Some poo poo going on with Matthias Corman? His department awarded a $1 billion contract to a company controlled by the treasurer of the Liberal Party, who then paid for his family flights to Singapore for a holiday.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Wait did 7:30 really run a loving franking scare show? Jesus loving Christ it doesn’t matter how hard you schillfor them they’re not going to spare your jobs you hosed idiots 
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:Lol the other day Morrison claimed money for Queensland flooding is now going to Christmas island because he has to reopen it. He's such a piece of poo poo What’s the word for this poo poo? Gaslighting?
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No, gaslighting is messing with someone to make them think they are going crazy. Like by pretending things didn't happen or that that did things they dont remember. This is psycopathy
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norp posted:No, gaslighting is messing with someone to make them think they are going crazy. Like by pretending things didn't happen or that that did things they dont remember. No it isn't
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Solemn Sloth posted:His department awarded a $1 billion contract to a company controlled by the treasurer of the Liberal Party, who then paid for his family flights to Singapore for a holiday. He was definitely going to pay, things just slip your mind sometimes and he accidentally forgot. Are you seriously telling me you've never forgotten to pay thousands of dollars for something before? Auspol double standards strike again. 
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JBP posted:No it isn't
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The accidental death of any 8 year old is a tragedy but beyond tightening up safety regulations any further action is knee jerk bullshit. Partly because it singles out this single incident when there are an enormous cohort of young people taking much greater risks in other areas. https://dirtbikeplanet.com/start-kids-riding-dirt-bike/ https://kidshealth.schn.health.nsw.gov.au/quad-bike-safety https://www.karting.net.au/how-to-get-started-in-karting Want to stop all that? What about diving, surfing, swimming, fencing, trampolining, skiing, water skiing, football, gymnastics.......
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Here's the head of Queensland CFMEU being fellated on 2GB this morning for going in to bat for his employers. Enjoy the opening dentures commercial for angry teeth grinding boomers. Enjoy the  pleasure the 2GB knob jockey takes in welcoming the QLD CFMEU to their broad church.Where's the ALP discipline now?
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hambeet posted:Stackhats for all of them
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It may just be me, but I feel like publishing the details and locations of specific buildings along with claims that the heat from a power drill could ignite their cladding is not very responsible reporting
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Solemn Sloth posted:It may just be me, but I feel like publishing the details and locations of specific buildings along with claims that the heat from a power drill could ignite their cladding is not very responsible reporting Alternatively, it's very responsible reporting because I doubt the owners of these buildings would have told the tenants what danger they're in.
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Slugnoid posted:here it is, the hospital on xmas island that critically ill people are going to be "medevac"'ed to under the scomo govt There was a news article I read the other day that said the Christmas Island hospital didn’t have the ability to perform operations (not sure if it was due to staff or facility limitations). So yeah cool, let’s send people in need of serious treatment from specialists to a place that doesn’t have any.
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Also Manus to Xmas Island is probably further than Port Moresby to Hobart
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Endman posted:Alternatively, it's very responsible reporting because I doubt the owners of these buildings would have told the tenants what danger they're in. Look we're protecting people
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Quantum Shart posted:Also Manus to Xmas Island is probably further than Port Moresby to Hobart Correct, by about 1000km
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fiery_valkyrie posted:There was a news article I read the other day that said the Christmas Island hospital didn’t have the ability to perform operations (not sure if it was due to staff or facility limitations). quote:But the local council chief executive David Price says the tiny island is not ready to take asylum seekers with complex medical needs. Although according to that map it is around the corner from a place called the Lucky Ho so it does have that going for it.
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