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Evil Fluffy posted:They hit harder than red mages later on and Ninjas get access to FAST. Ninja learns Haste and Temper which is all you really need for Black Magic.
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I always picked a thief because when you’re ten years old, ninjas are cool action. So I know it’s the same as the mobile port, but I just got the Switch version of the best PlayStation FF, number IX, and good god ya’ll. The fast forward function is a godsend for Chocobo Hot and Cold. I just scored all 9 chocographs from the first forest in about a half hour. It felt really good.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:48
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NikkolasKing posted:I have known people who think Squall is a great protagonist Here i am! I was a very shy kid and i could relate with Squall a lot. FFVIII was finally a game where the protagonist had real hosed up problems interacting with others and i loved every minute of it; i can easily see why 90% of the people couldn't stand it tho.
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Feb 19, 2019 20:52
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DrakeD posted:Here i am! I was a very shy kid and i could relate with Squall a lot. this 100% makes the Shinji Ikari comparison work for me
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Feb 19, 2019 20:55
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i was a shy kid but even when i was twelve i thought squall was a loser the problem with him is that he isn't supposed to be shy or reserved. tetsuya nomura clearly thinks squall is the coolest, baddest motherfucker to ever have walked the face of the earth
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Feb 19, 2019 20:59
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The White Dragon posted:i was a shy kid but even when i was twelve i thought squall was a loser Exactly what i'm talking about. He's actually a real gently caress up, elsewise more people would've liked him. That probably doesn't mean he was written like that on purpose (probably not) but hey, it's the result i like.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:05
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NikkolasKing posted:I have known people who think Squall is a great protagonist, sort of the Shinji Ikari of Final Fantasy where he's hated for being emotional and vulnerable instead of a hardcore badass. I guess there's a tiny amount of merit to this idea as I have always maintained FFVIII had a lot of cool things in it but the execution is terrible. It's truly awful Squall and friends are child soldiers but the game isn't bold enough to commit to this. I think the idea of Squall is that from everyone else's perspective he is a hardcore badass who's strong and brave and has a plan for every situation and is constantly going through hell to pull his friends asses out of the fire, but that the players are allowed to see the self-doubt and vulnerability he keeps bottled up inside. It'd work except for the fact that Squall's competence is more the supreme incompetence of everyone else in the setting and that every other bit of the story is full of bad writing and moronic plot twists. I'd definitely recommend Cool Ghost's LP, even if I don't agree with his overall assessment of the game. It'd put it with Xenosaga in terms of games that aren't flawed masterpieces but trainwrecks that contain some masterwork fragments of train.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:18
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I think the people who made the game probably didn't put half as much thought into any of the characters that people ITT have already done.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:23
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Squall looks like a real cool dude but he is extremely wack. The fact that Laguna and his rad bros aren’t the main characters is the worst thing about VIII.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:30
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A Sometimes Food posted:This is all whyNoctis is the best FF protagonist. I would die in real life for Noct.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:39
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The White Dragon posted:the problem with him is that he isn't supposed to be shy or reserved. tetsuya nomura clearly thinks squall is the coolest, baddest motherfucker to ever have walked the face of the earth This isn't true at all though. You see his internal monologue all over the place in FF8. He's absolutely faking it because he doesn't know what else to do. Also Nomura didn't write or direct FF8 so beyond character design and I guess Squall's personality in Kingdom Hearts/Dissidia I'm not sure what he has to do with it. Blockhouse fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Feb 19, 2019 |
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Feb 19, 2019 21:44
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Noct and the boys are seriously rad protagonists. I like FFXV, but I don’t know how much of that is main character based. It’s a fun game, but it’s a strange mishmash of open world, RPG and action that doesn’t really do any of them super well, but the story and bros hold it together for me.
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Feb 19, 2019 21:53
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Nihilarian posted:I've also been playing ff12 I didn't mind the palings, what got me was thinking "these quickening things seem dumb I'm not gonna waste LP unlocking them". I made it about 2/3 through the game wondering why I had so little MP
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Feb 19, 2019 21:59
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Squall is a cool dude who is quiet and reserved because literally everyone around him is a moron. Even in his dreams.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:06
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Luso is a dude who found himself in a rad fantasy world and decided to do rad fantasy things.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:07
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Ramza is the best FF protag, spin-off designation be damned
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Feb 19, 2019 22:08
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TheHoosier posted:Ramza is the best FF protag, spin-off designation be damned 100%. Traitor to his class. Ramza is the motherfucking dude. Edit: But also i haven't played that many games  . Just all the tactics and the mainline post 10. I'm currently playing IX for the first time.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:14
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The White Dragon posted:the problem with him is that he isn't supposed to be shy or reserved. tetsuya nomura clearly thinks squall is the coolest, baddest motherfucker to ever have walked the face of the earth You can hate the game without making stuff up
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Feb 19, 2019 22:15
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Fister Roboto posted:Squall is a cool dude who is quiet and reserved because literally everyone around him is a moron. Even in his dreams. everyone around him is a genuinely good guy. squall is a huge dick to them for no reason. and it's like, i have to play as this guy? zell is right there and he even has a stronger limit break
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Feb 19, 2019 22:22
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Who would you rather play as, the girl who can shoot her dog at people or the guy who can trigger the gun on his blade to deal more damage I think the answer is clear
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Feb 19, 2019 22:42
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Ban guns.
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Feb 19, 2019 22:45
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Zell, even with his Mike Tyson face tattoo and love of hotdogs, would have been a better choice than Squall's sorry rear end
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Feb 19, 2019 23:13
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TheHoosier posted:Zell, even with his Mike Tyson face tattoo and love of hotdogs, would have been a better choice than Squall's sorry rear end it's henna ok
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Feb 19, 2019 23:26
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Marche is the mentally healthiest protagonist in the series, and he's 12 years old.
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Feb 19, 2019 23:43
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a crisp refreshing Moxie posted:Marche is the mentally healthiest protagonist in the series, and he's 12 years old. I would imagine most people in general are mentally better off at 12 compared to when the realities and problems of adulthood come knocking.
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Feb 20, 2019 00:14
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The White Dragon posted:i was a shy kid but even when i was twelve i thought squall was a loser There was no reason everyone in the game world was tripping over themselves to fellate Squall about how great he was. He's more like a bully who is mean-spirited because of his own low self-esteem than he was a "shy, vulnerable" teenager. And he was only as competent as he was at everything because of Protagonist Syndrome. Man that story was bad on so many levels.
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Feb 20, 2019 01:26
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Dr Pepper posted:Ninja learns Haste and Temper which is all you really need for Black Magic. TMPR is bugged in the original version and does nothing and you won’t get FAST on a ninja until very late in the game. I haven’t played any of the remakes and the last time I played the original was 15 years ago, but I think black magic is really good and important. Healing is very limited and there are plenty of random encounters that can be worse than bosses. A party member capable of clearing the field of dangerous enemies quickly brings a lot to your party. Even with the best armor, a knight is still vulnerable to status effects and spells and can only kill one enemy at a time.
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Heithinn Grasida posted:TMPR is bugged in the original version and does nothing and you won’t get FAST on a ninja until very late in the game. Black Magic is good, but Black Mages are bad because they're prone to becoming bloody splatters when looked at funny up until the Dawn of Souls release. Thankfully, Intelligence is bugged in the original release of FF too, so you can just bring a Red Mage instead and lose almost nothing. (To be fair, Fighters and Red Mages were the 'good' classes in the original FF. The other four were all varying shades of bad. Thief was useless until upgrade and even then was still just Fighter-lite, Black Belt didn't do dick unless you overleveled since FF is entirely beatable in the early 20s with any of the five other classes, White Mages are barely a character slot 90% of the time which doesn't justify the 10% they're useful for, and Black Mages have the aforementioned 'splat' problem where many, many normal enemies can one-shot an Black Mage of respectable level for the area.
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Schwartzcough posted:There was no reason everyone in the game world was tripping over themselves to fellate Squall about how great he was. He's more like a bully who is mean-spirited because of his own low self-esteem than he was a "shy, vulnerable" teenager. And he was only as competent as he was at everything because of Protagonist Syndrome. Man that story was bad on so many levels.
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I can't remember much of FFVIII but I do Rembert extremely strongly that Squall looked absolutely loving incredible in promo art and they gave him a fur collar which was already my thing at the time.
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Feb 20, 2019 10:28
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Is FFXV anyone else's favourite just by the way? I loved the game warts and all when it came out and I've just replayed it with all the episodes. It's 100% my favourite ahead of 6, 7 and 9 now. I don't know if this is controversial or if people have warmed to these lovely boys.
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Feb 20, 2019 10:35
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JBP posted:Is FFXV anyone else's favourite just by the way? I loved the game warts and all when it came out and I've just replayed it with all the episodes. It's 100% my favourite ahead of 6, 7 and 9 now. I'm not sure it's necessarily my favorite, but they really did a great job with the main four.
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Feb 20, 2019 10:45
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Schwartzcough posted:There was no reason everyone in the game world was tripping over themselves to fellate Squall about how great he was. He's more like a bully who is mean-spirited because of his own low self-esteem than he was a "shy, vulnerable" teenager. And he was only as competent as he was at everything because of Protagonist Syndrome. Man that story was bad on so many levels. Oh no, not protagonist syndrome, whatever will we do. Hey can you use the words god gave you instead of expecting me to know what tvtropes bullshit you're on about
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Feb 20, 2019 10:52
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JBP posted:Is FFXV anyone else's favourite just by the way? I loved the game warts and all when it came out and I've just replayed it with all the episodes. It's 100% my favourite ahead of 6, 7 and 9 now. Between it and 7 for me. Noct and Ardyn are my favourite hero and villain in FF though.
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Feb 20, 2019 11:00
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I quite like it but the narrative drops so many balls all over the place and combat is merely fine. Its good enough im all aboard for FFXVI.
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Barudak posted:I quite like it but the narrative drops so many balls all over the place and combat is merely fine. Its good enough im all aboard for FFXVI. I agree. I will say though that I was impressed playing it with the extra content on Ng+. The narrative structure is pretty good when you aren't off doing twenty hours of side stuff and just play through the story. I do wish there was more magic, but the combat (in a field or open space obviously) is fun and looks great. I can't think of many more joyful JRPG moves than Ignis' suite of boy band poses or Gladio's shield one. Regroup never fails to make me crack a smile.
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Barudak posted:Its good enough im all aboard for FFXVI. Who do they have to work on 16 anyway? The guy who salvaged 15 is gone, and there's no way they'd have Nomura helm two projects simultaneously yet again... ...They're totally going to have Nomura work on both FF7R and FF16, aren't they.
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Mr. Locke posted:Black Magic is good, but Black Mages are bad because they're prone to becoming bloody splatters when looked at funny up until the Dawn of Souls release. LOL no. Black mages are fine. FF15 isn't my favorite but it exceeded my expectations despite not actually being a finished game. The DLC was good. I'm still salty we're not getting Aranea DLC.
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Mega64 posted:Who do they have to work on 16 anyway? The guy who salvaged 15 is gone, and there's no way they'd have Nomura helm two projects simultaneously yet again... That and all the other poo poo they put him on. Dude wasn't working on 2 projects at the same time during VS13 he was working on like 4 games a year during that era. SE spreadin their upper creative staff thin as paste.
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