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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
I do hope we get a series inspired by the classic El Santo movies.

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Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1096812391000465408

hosed up if true :thunk:

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

hosed up if true :thunk:

https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1097539182795223041

They just announced ongoings for Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane. You probably don't do that if you're looking to cut the line in half.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 18, 2019

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
So it's Zombies? Again?

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I feel like Priest's Deathstroke has been losing a lot of the weird family drama that I liked so much in the beginning in favor of putting Slade in wacky gimmick situations.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I liked the Arkham arc.
The panel where the fake Deadpool guy accidentally ray guns himself in the face is amazing.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Oh yeah, it's still an enjoyable read and I'm not about to drop it or anything. I just can't help but feel like the book is starting to drift away from what I was interested in about it. I guess it's ending soon anyway.

Also, not sure what to think of using Granny Goodness and the Furies of all characters to make a pro feminist comic out of, but I feel like it mostly works?



This is a pretty good page.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Roth posted:

I feel like Priest's Deathstroke has been losing a lot of the weird family drama that I liked so much in the beginning in favor of putting Slade in wacky gimmick situations.

Yeah it lost me back at that pretty dismal Titans crossover and the bits and pieces I've seen since haven't impressed me much. That said I guess kudos to Priest for getting me to enjoy the previous parts of a Deathstroke book because I usually hate him.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

I think Lazarus Contract is probably the worst thing Priest has ever been involved with.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Yeah. The arcs following are WAY better.
I'm quite worried about it pretty much closing out with another Titans crossover, though.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Roth posted:

Oh yeah, it's still an enjoyable read and I'm not about to drop it or anything. I just can't help but feel like the book is starting to drift away from what I was interested in about it. I guess it's ending soon anyway.

Also, not sure what to think of using Granny Goodness and the Furies of all characters to make a pro feminist comic out of, but I feel like it mostly works?



This is a pretty good page.

It's definitely trying to make a statement though idk if using those characters in that setting gels at all with their preexisting incarnations.

For example, the Superman TAS depictions of Granny has her as a proper maternal figure to Darkseid rather than as a peer/object of lust. That Darkseid even demonstrates a sexual attraction for anyone is also a bit OOC and him having children is always left as an exercise for the audience to think about and proceed to ignore.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Personally, I'm still trying to process the idea that Darkseid fucks for pleasure.

Two Tone Shoes
Jan 2, 2009

All that's missing is the ring.

Teenage Fansub posted:

https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1097539182795223041

They just announced ongoings for Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane. You probably don't do that if you're looking to cut the line in half.

Kind of crazy to me that Superman's sixth most important character gets a comic.

edit: Also, hey, looks like all my fears and worries about HiC are about to be proven true. Hooray I guess.

Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Feb 19, 2019

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Roth posted:

Personally, I'm still trying to process the idea that Darkseid fucks for pleasure.

Yeah, that's a weird rear end OOC thing in the comic that made me give it a bit of a side-eye. The whole "talent exhibition" thing of the Furies feels like it should be part of an Amanda Conner comic and not part of whatever this comic is supposed to be.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Anyway, Wonder Twins is starting off with "My people are perfect, and also during thunder storms they gently caress like crazy" and I regret giving this a shot.

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

I'm reading Morrison's Doom Patrol run because of the TV show and it's just wonderful. I can't get over how much I adore 80's DC.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Roth posted:

Anyway, Wonder Twins is starting off with "My people are perfect, and also during thunder storms they gently caress like crazy" and I regret giving this a shot.

One day you'll go through thunder lust.

e: I assume Zan's going to have an awkward situation involving a transforming Marvel family somewhere in the comic.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Feb 19, 2019

Admiralty Flag
Jun 7, 2007

to ride eternal, shiny and chrome

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2022

Roth posted:

Personally, I'm still trying to process the idea that Darkseid fucks for pleasure.

When he fucks it is with three billion dicks
When he nuts it is with six billion testicles


Shameful edit: paraphrasing Final Crisis if you haven't read it


Also remember that Darkseid once had his own personal pimp/pornographer New God, Sleez, but I won't say any more because that was the beginning of the end for the good 12 months of Byrne Superman

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Roth posted:

Personally, I'm still trying to process the idea that Darkseid fucks for pleasure.
I don't think he does, and the entire comic feels very out of character everyone involved.

Though I am glad they went back to the better Steppenwolf design.

Admiralty Flag posted:


Also remember that Darkseid once had his own personal pimp/pornographer New God, Sleez, but I won't say any more because that was the beginning of the end for the good 12 months of Byrne Superman

Darkseid also thought he was worthless and exiled him.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Sleez is an atrocious character and everything involving him should go swiftly down the memory hole, but yeah, technically it's canon that he was so nasty and gross even Apokolips didn't want him. So he and went and lived in a sewer on Earth, as you do.

Benito Cereno
Jan 20, 2006

ALLEZ-OUP!

Two Tone Shoes posted:

Superman's sixth most important character

This is an incredibly rude way to describe Lois, how dare you

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I dunno how it's possible to not be insanely pumped for Fraction Jimmy.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Shame on the fools that don’t know Jimmy Olsen is one of the best low key characters.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
More info on DCeased alongside some art

quote:

This story takes place outside main DC continuity, which gives it free reign to do whatever it wants… including rack up a high body count.

“While the characters are the ones everyone knows so well, this is very much its own thing,” Taylor explained. “The reason being, the stakes are real. We can tell a story without holding back. No one you love is safe. Even the icons can fall.”

DCeased kicks off when, thanks to Darkseid, a techno-organic virus infects the world’s networks and spreads to some 600 million people through anything with a screen. Those affected try to remove the virus from their minds by scratching and ripping at their own flesh. But once the virus takes hold, they essentially become a rage zombie. Of course we know that Batman has a plan in place for virtually every disaster you could imagine, but this pandemic might be more than even the Dark Knight could have ever prepared for.

“Batman is definitely usually ready for anything. And this is no different. But Batman’s greatest asset, after his friends and family, is his mind,” Taylor teased. “Without wanting to spoil too much, our virus affects the mind. Can Batman fight something that’s part of him? Or will Bat-god be revealed to be as mortal as the rest of us?”


https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/02/19/exclusive-batman-faces-a-zombie-outbreak-in-dceased

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
so it's literally marvel zombies

few years late to hitch a ride on that fad imo

Drakyn
Dec 26, 2012

Open Marriage Night posted:

Shame on the fools that don’t know Jimmy Olsen is one of the best low key characters.
Unless he once seduced a horse in order to cheat a giant mason out of his wages for building Valhalla for the norse gods I don't think he's topping the original.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters
Female Furies is weird for a number of reasons, but primarily (at least as of the first issue) that it really gives the vibe of :clap: HIRE :clap: MORE :clap: WOMEN :clap: TORTURERS

Based only on the first issue, by front-loading the sexism and misogyny as the main problem, it glosses over that Apokalips is a genocidal death cult dictatorship that wants to enslave the universe. Granny Goodness is frustrated that she's not given the proper credit for backstabbing regicide, and that her wards aren't allowed to serve at a high level even though they can brutally murder dissidents and wipe out entire cultures just as well as the men.

If you told the same story with (say) the Injustice League at least there'd be some wiggle room for some plot beats about how Giganta is more concerned with taking care of henchpeople and their families than Luthor, or that Catwoman doesn't immediately try to solve every problem with mass murder like Joker seems to, you could put some sort "the lesser of two evils" gloss on the message.

When the dichotomy is "we all want to brutally crush countless billions, but I would never make someone do a swimsuit competition!" I really don't know what the book is going for.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Edge & Christian posted:

Female Furies is weird for a number of reasons, but primarily (at least as of the first issue) that it really gives the vibe of :clap: HIRE :clap: MORE :clap: WOMEN :clap: TORTURERS

Based only on the first issue, by front-loading the sexism and misogyny as the main problem, it glosses over that Apokalips is a genocidal death cult dictatorship that wants to enslave the universe. Granny Goodness is frustrated that she's not given the proper credit for backstabbing regicide, and that her wards aren't allowed to serve at a high level even though they can brutally murder dissidents and wipe out entire cultures just as well as the men.

If you told the same story with (say) the Injustice League at least there'd be some wiggle room for some plot beats about how Giganta is more concerned with taking care of henchpeople and their families than Luthor, or that Catwoman doesn't immediately try to solve every problem with mass murder like Joker seems to, you could put some sort "the lesser of two evils" gloss on the message.

When the dichotomy is "we all want to brutally crush countless billions, but I would never make someone do a swimsuit competition!" I really don't know what the book is going for.
The twist is that the bad guys are, in fact, bad guys.

(But yeah, I had a similar reaction.)

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

I'll still try D'ceased. I'm sure there's a good chance Taylor'll make me care.
I just want him writing Detective Chimp comics.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Teenage Fansub posted:

I'll still try D'ceased. I'm sure there's a good chance Taylor'll make me care.
I just want him writing Detective Chimp comics.

I want Detective Chimp to get more love and possibly regularly on a TV series (animated or otherwise). I'd kill for a retooled Shadowpact or a TV version of the current JLD with or without Wonder Woman

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!


Tom Taylor is awesome and should be enough to justify trying any book with his name on it.

That being said, this sounds godawful and even a good writer like him isn't going to make it appealing to me.

Roth
Jul 9, 2016

Edge & Christian posted:

Female Furies is weird for a number of reasons, but primarily (at least as of the first issue) that it really gives the vibe of :clap: HIRE :clap: MORE :clap: WOMEN :clap: TORTURERS

Based only on the first issue, by front-loading the sexism and misogyny as the main problem, it glosses over that Apokalips is a genocidal death cult dictatorship that wants to enslave the universe. Granny Goodness is frustrated that she's not given the proper credit for backstabbing regicide, and that her wards aren't allowed to serve at a high level even though they can brutally murder dissidents and wipe out entire cultures just as well as the men.

If you told the same story with (say) the Injustice League at least there'd be some wiggle room for some plot beats about how Giganta is more concerned with taking care of henchpeople and their families than Luthor, or that Catwoman doesn't immediately try to solve every problem with mass murder like Joker seems to, you could put some sort "the lesser of two evils" gloss on the message.

When the dichotomy is "we all want to brutally crush countless billions, but I would never make someone do a swimsuit competition!" I really don't know what the book is going for.

Yeah, I largely felt the same but it also comes across to me as being purposefully ironic? There's only one issue so far, so only time will tell, but I get the feeling it's trying to be a parody of half-assed neoliberal feminism.

Two Tone Shoes
Jan 2, 2009

All that's missing is the ring.
Wait didn't DC already rip off Marvel Zombies with Blackest Night? Was the GL flavor too distancing?

And Cyborg is the protagonist here? Boy that's a lot of whiffs in one pitch.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

Roth posted:

Yeah, I largely felt the same but it also comes across to me as being purposefully ironic? There's only one issue so far, so only time will tell, but I get the feeling it's trying to be a parody of half-assed neoliberal feminism.
You may be proven right and I may be in the minority, but DC's track record of Social Commentary Comics by the likes of King and Russell haven't struck me as doing much of anything beyond the surface level. I also haven't read Shade the Changing Girl/Women, but I did read Castellucci's old Minx books and part of one of her YA novels. Maybe it's just that all of those were targeted at the YA market, but they all felt much closer to half-assed neoliberal feminism than anything subtle or radical.

I'm pretty sure we're just supposed to feel bad for Helen Mirren Goodness and the rest of the put-upon Furies just trying to do their best? We'l see.

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


Drakyn posted:

Unless he once seduced a horse in order to cheat a giant mason out of his wages for building Valhalla for the norse gods I don't think he's topping the original.

Jimmy married a gorilla.

Cassa
Jan 29, 2009

Two Tone Shoes posted:

And Cyborg is the protagonist here? Boy that's a lot of whiffs in one pitch.

Yeesh. I like Taylor a lot, but Cyborg sucks.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Open Marriage Night posted:

Jimmy married a gorilla.

That's probably only barely in the top ten insane things that happened in his life.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Two Tone Shoes posted:

Wait didn't DC already rip off Marvel Zombies with Blackest Night? Was the GL flavor too distancing?

And Cyborg is the protagonist here? Boy that's a lot of whiffs in one pitch.

I thought he was implying Batman was the protagonist in the IGN interview.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Skwirl posted:

That's probably only barely in the top ten insane things that happened in his life.

Being adopted by rear end in a top hat Silver Age Superman is pretty up there. And being a giant turtle kaiju.

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catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
In all honesty, it's pretty crazy that when Jimmy Olsen was dealing with New Gods stuff was probably the most sane, stable time in his entire life.

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