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Jose posted:she was chair of labour friends of israel and lmao speaking of chairs, all these party resignations are the most furniture rearranging on the Titanic thing ever
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When Ankh-Morpork decides that foreigners aren't welcome any more, Moist must navigate the intricacies of diplomacy with 27 countries at once!
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JFairfax posted:anti-Zionist antisemitism basically all Orthodox Jewish people are anti-semitic then lol
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Holding the knife to his neck, Vetinari smirked and gloated "Now I've got you where I want you"
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Farm Frenzy posted:if you put two jews in a room youll end up with five antisemitisms This joke is antisemitic
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Ramrod Hotshot posted:speaking of chairs, all these party resignations are the most furniture rearranging on the Titanic thing ever No no, this is the time to have this discussion, rather than focusing on the looming food and medicine crisis because
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An insane mind posted:Oh sorry, I'm just so used to my own governmental system with all the little parties going for their own thing. When I vote, I think I know I'm voting for a completely left-wing or right-wing (or god forbid centrist) party. The hemming and hawing only comes when they try to create a government. congrats on your functional government
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If you want to know about the real extent of the anti-semitism problem in Labour, read this: https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/blog/antisemitism-no-justification-for-singling-out-labour/
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I don't understand this antisemitic thing. It's all cooked up right? Based on that article just posted. And perhaps Corbyn isn't a fan of Isreal? But I always thought Israel was bad because of the genocide of Palestinians and sniping children. Right? Or are they actually good?
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Alan_Shore posted:I don't understand this antisemitic thing. It's all cooked up right? Based on that article just posted. And perhaps Corbyn isn't a fan of Isreal? But I always thought Israel was bad because of the genocide of Palestinians and sniping children. Right? Or are they actually good? actually theyre very good for britain. see: https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1000624921255579649
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Alan_Shore posted:I don't understand this antisemitic thing. It's all cooked up right? Based on that article just posted. And perhaps Corbyn isn't a fan of Isreal? But I always thought Israel was bad because of the genocide of Palestinians and sniping children. Right? Or are they actually good? This scandal began when it came to light that Corbyn visited a group of very leftist Jewish students who are anti-zionist and opposed to the state of Israel in its current form, to celebrate a Jewish high holiday with them. These people were opposed to the current system of Israeli government and thus (according to many) they were inherently antisemitic (despite being Jews themselves), and thus also made Corbyn antisemitic by proxy. As far as I know, Corbyn has not said anything against Jews, and the whole controversy stems from an incident when he went to celebrate a Jewish holiday with (leftist) Jews, and his mere presence there was enough to trigger a cascade of criticism ever since, from Jews who are further to the right than the Jews he spent the Jewish holiday with. The trope of "Corbyn Anti-semitism" has become so established in the media as a thing that nobody dares discuss what it refers to. Someone (even hamprince) correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that Corbyn actually said anything antisemitic ever. Maybe he has, but I don't know of it. If he did, I would love to hear it so that I can disavow him. But as far as I can tell it seems to be a conflation of antisemitism (which is unacceptable) with criticism of the Israeli state (which should be possible in a way that is not antisemitic)
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SirPhoebos posted:Imagine if Terry Pratchett was still alive, I can only imagine his take on Brexit. The Patrician would never have let it happen.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:The ship's hanger is pretty goddamned big from when I was onboard on Friday, as I think she's been designed to be some sort of hybrid amphibious landing dock if required. But yeah, she has no planes and so my wander around the flightdeck just consisted of looking around Portsmouth Harbour and thinking "actually, I'm quite high up here". There's also a liveried Jaguar in the hanger (apparently) that was a gift to the captain, should we need a projectile to hurl at the Chinese as a peace offering Holy lol, you haven't received any of your F-35B's yet?
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twoday posted:This scandal began when it came to light that Corbyn visited a group of very leftist Jewish students who are anti-zionist and opposed to the state of Israel in its current form, to celebrate a Jewish high holiday with them. These people were opposed to the current system of Israeli government and thus (according to many) they were inherently antisemitic (despite being Jews themselves), and thus also made Corbyn antisemitic by proxy. Corbs also liked a deeply unfortunate political mural on Facebook like 5 years ago. That's it, seriously. There's no real epidemic of anti-Semitism in Labour, especially compared to the other political parties out there. The few actual cases are like the same 4-5 old cranks and a bunch of local level idiots, both of which are given a good slap when it happens, and the rest is pro-Palestine/anti-Zionist sentiments being spun as being anti-Semitic. The entire thing is a irritatingly enduring cudgel to beat a resurgent Left with, as the average voter has no idea about I/P, the slightly more informed centrist libs get to flex their performative wokeness and the swivel-eyed actual bigots in the Tories/UKIP get a smokescreen to distract from their own parties being riven with far more pervasive and aggressive racism of every stripe.
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twoday posted:But as far as I can tell it seems to be a conflation of antisemitism (which is unacceptable) with criticism of the Israeli state (which should be possible in a way that is not antisemitic) The whole idea that being anti-zionist is antisemitic, is predicated on the notion that if you don't believe Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state then ipso facto you're antisemitic. So if Jews are entitled to rule in Israel by either God's covenant, or because you think they deserve it as reparations for the Holocaust then you can't criticize Israel for apartheid. Zionist liberals will cry and moan about daring to call it "apartheid," but they already believe Jews have a right to treat Palestinians as second class citizens and non-persons because the country is theirs to do with as they will. Under this framework it's impossible to criticise Israel, because the kind of reforms that would elevate Palestinians to equal status with Jews would overthrow the essentially Jewish character of the Israeli state. SteelMentor posted:Corbs also liked a deeply unfortunate political mural on Facebook like 5 years ago. It's not enough to just denounce and discipline antisemitism as it pops up, you also have to regularly reiterate your unconditional support for Israel in whatever it does. Anything less than complete deference to the Israeli government is antisemitic. Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 05:39 on Feb 20, 2019 |
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Ok, well I was just checking in and I am glad to see that all is as I thought. That is, not actually antisemitic. There are no Jews dying from anything that Corbyn did. Even if there weren't people dying yet per se, I would still consider it worthy of discussion. Antisemitism is unacceptable, and must be stamped out. These problems must be resolved. Yet, I must say that with 38 days remaining, discussing this instead of Brexit is absolutely loving stupid. Nobody is dying because of that mural. Nobody is dying because of that dinner. People will die because of brexit in less than 2 months. Let's postpone the debate about theoretical antisemitism until april, please, and discuss the less sexy topic of logistics operations.
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twoday posted:Imagine that you were in the Soviet Union, 2 months before everything was abut to collapse, devoting all of your time to debating whether the Estonions were Scandanavian or rather fell into the Baltic cultural subclade One day... 
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twoday posted:Ok, well I was just checking in and I am glad to see that all is as I thought. That is, not actually antisemitic. There are no Jews dying from anything that Corbyn did. Even if there weren't people dying yet per se, I would still consider it worthy of discussion. Antisemitism is unacceptable, and must be stamped out. These problems must be resolved. Yet, I must say that with 38 days remaining, discussing this instead of Brexit is absolutely loving stupid. thats the best part. its something for the elites to obsess over to take their minds off the impending and entirely avoidable catastrophe. retreating to a parallel universe totally detached from reality is much easier than deaing with the problems that actually exist
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craig murray lmao he's a salisbury truther
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wow cool i guess the video is fake then, thanks
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Fallen Hamprince posted:craig murray lmao Still engaging in better faith than this poundshop Pissflaps
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I can't believe the raging antisemite corbyn didn't vote for this https://twitter.com/carolinejmolloy/status/1098150171723091969
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Jose posted:I can't believe the raging antisemite corbyn didn't vote for this good to know jezza is at least willing to stand up for those british jews who *checks notes* joined ISIS
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We are pulling back after 100% Caliphate victory!
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JFairfax posted:If you want to know about the real extent of the anti-semitism problem in Labour, read this: quote:What is the reality of antisemitism in the Labour Party today? What a fuckin' surprise. What an absolute fuckin' shocker. Turns out racism is actually about having a "funny" skin tint
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420 Gank Mid posted:What a fuckin' surprise. What an absolute fuckin' shocker. When there was a investigation of how MPs are attacked online they had to give Dianne Abbott her own category because she receives about 1/3 of it herself.
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namesake posted:When there was a investigation of how MPs are attacked online they had to give Dianne Abbott her own category because she receives about 1/3 of it herself. didn't they straight up exclude her from the results
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