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Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1098218016255414272
If it wasnt just so stupid, you might call this disturbing.

Wonder how many journalists this evil scumfuck can get killed this year

Jesus

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Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Y’all I’m worried that not enough people learned the right lessons from 2016 :ohdear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6VjPM5CeWs

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/iamthewarax/status/1098230478182715392?s=21

https://twitter.com/soyrulezokay/status/1098260153814712320?s=21

:stare:

Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 20, 2019

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Vasudus posted:

It's cool, it's not like the CIA effort to piggyback on polio vaccines had any negative effect either, just roll with it.

Has USAID ever not been mostly a CIA cover?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Crakkerjakk posted:

I hope the Dems have the balls to stack the court and every new member is someone who spent considerable time as a public defender

I would also like a pony.

I have a pony to give you. Can I have Kavanaugh's seat?

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Has USAID ever not been mostly a CIA cover?

IIRC USAID is supposed to be intentionally pure from other State assets, because State itself is a vehicle for clandestine services.

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

Vasudus posted:

IIRC USAID is supposed to be intentionally pure from other State assets, because State itself is a vehicle for clandestine services.

lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Public_Safety

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2014/08/04/secret-usaid-cuba (updated link)

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Feb 20, 2019

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Now we just need the committee for public safety :thermidor:

Crakkerjakk
Mar 14, 2016


joat mon posted:

I have a pony to give you. Can I have Kavanaugh's seat?

Works for me.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

Proud Christian Mom posted:

Alexa show me how to completely erode whatever trust people have in American aid workers

https://twitter.com/tmawelsh/status/1097880221649457154?s=19

The Twitter post is not an accurate characterization of that article.

The proposal is to train special USAID teams to work in hostile environments where they need to coordinate with military forces (the article gives special forces as an example) for security because currently they don't have the capability to do anything other than hole up in the capital if the country is dangerous.

not caring here
Feb 22, 2012

blazemastah 2 dry 4 u

joat mon posted:

I have a pony to give you. Can I have Kavanaugh's seat?

Excuse me sir, I have a call from VP Pence on the line

Vasudus
May 30, 2003

Oh, well then nevermind. Here I was thinking USAID was the good one.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Best Friends posted:

Warren being a republican until 1996 is mind boggling and makes me think a lot less of her, Bernie is a million years old and won't be able to get anything done with the dem establishment hating him, and all the rest of the Dems don't seem to believe in anything, or worse. Such are the wages of the party culling anyone left of center for two generations - when the voters move left, they don't have much to hold on to. No one with Bernie's views could have survived the party.

Blarg.

Democrat Jesus isn't a person. Find someone who has good ideas and appeals to enough voters that they show up and don't leave the presidential choice blank. Stop looking for the person who never hosed up or changed their mind.

Godholio fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Feb 20, 2019

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
I don’t think you could do anything to lower the trust people in developing countries have for anything with “US” in the name.

facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns
https://twitter.com/ShimonPro/status/1098281341840441345?s=19

Not the first time we've heard this, still could be bullshit, so shrugemoji

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/1087809632079249408?s=19

Glad that's settled.

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

Jarmak posted:

The Twitter post is not an accurate characterization of that article.

The proposal is to train special USAID teams to work in hostile environments where they need to coordinate with military forces (the article gives special forces as an example) for security because currently they don't have the capability to do anything other than hole up in the capital if the country is dangerous.

It seems like this would make USAID workers higher priority targets in hostile environments for their potential knowledge of local military assets, communication protocols, etc etc?

It be nice if the world had reason to trust our aid workers and this doesn't necessarily seem like a step in the right direction

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Godholio posted:

Democrat Jesus isn't a person. Find someone who has good ideas and appeals to enough voters that they show up and don't leave the presidential choice blank. Stop looking for the person who never hosed up or changed their mind.

Is this an endorsement of Kamala

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Eej posted:

Is this an endorsement of Kamala

No, but I feel like I just read about 4 pages of "I used to like Candidate X until I found out their favorite color was green so now they're poo poo."

The thread now hates Bernie and Biden for gently caress's sake.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat
Biden hosed us. Obama hasnt bailed him out of taking cash from his "friends" across the aisle. gently caress Diamond Joe.

pantslesswithwolves
Oct 28, 2008

Jarmak posted:

The Twitter post is not an accurate characterization of that article.

The proposal is to train special USAID teams to work in hostile environments where they need to coordinate with military forces (the article gives special forces as an example) for security because currently they don't have the capability to do anything other than hole up in the capital if the country is dangerous.

Why not just expand the active duty Civil Affairs part of SOCOM if these aid workers are going to be operating alongside other SOCOM elements and receiving similar training?

Also, anecdotally speaking, I’ve heard more about USAID people not adhering to security protocols (like using armored vehicles) on field missions because they felt like it was distancing them from communities they were trying to serve.

This sounds like budget dollars hunting, tbh

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Godholio posted:

Democrat Jesus isn't a person. AOC isn't old enough to run for President yet, besides she has to primary Chuck Schumer first. Find someone who has good ideas and appeals to enough voters that they show up and don't leave the presidential choice blank. Stop looking for the person who never hosed up or changed their mind.

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

Just in case anyone missed it, that supreme court ruling reining in asset seizures was 9-0. Even Thomas and Kavanaugh agree ACAB

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

pantslesswithwolves posted:

Why not just expand the active duty Civil Affairs part of SOCOM if these aid workers are going to be operating alongside other SOCOM elements and receiving similar training?

Also, anecdotally speaking, I’ve heard more about USAID people not adhering to security protocols (like using armored vehicles) on field missions because they felt like it was distancing them from communities they were trying to serve.

This sounds like budget dollars hunting, tbh

My first thought was that this is what CA exists for but it kind of sounds a little lighter than that... I might have missed it but it didn't sound like they were actually training any USAID people to be shooters whereas CA is actually armed uniformed personal.


Kawasaki Nun posted:

It seems like this would make USAID workers higher priority targets in hostile environments for their potential knowledge of local military assets, communication protocols, etc etc?

It be nice if the world had reason to trust our aid workers and this doesn't necessarily seem like a step in the right direction

I don't know much about how USAID operates other than what the article states but it sounds like they don't work in these environments at all. As in, the idea isn't to make them safer in dangerous environments but rather allow them to operate in environments they currently can't enter at all.


I'm mostly just saying it's nothing like the "USAID workers will be secret commandos" that I got from the twitter post.

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
Yeah but Thomas was trying to say that only US Citizens should be protected from unfair asset seizures, because of course.

Godholio posted:

No, but I feel like I just read about 4 pages of "I used to like Candidate X until I found out their favorite color was green so now they're poo poo."

The thread now hates Bernie and Biden for gently caress's sake.

I like Bernie and Biden for what they are, or what they were in the case of Biden. But I don't think either of them should be elected President in 2020. The times have changed, and Biden hasn't.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


Godholio posted:

No, but I feel like I just read about 4 pages of "I used to like Candidate X until I found out their favorite color was green so now they're poo poo."

The thread now hates Bernie and Biden for gently caress's sake.

Yeah in regards to the Warren being a republican up until 1996 thing, doesn't really bother me all that much when you look at what New England Republicans usually end up being and they're usually far and wide much different then their national brethren. Maine and New Hampshire excluded.

Totally agree with the Democrat Jesus thing though. But I think it's unfair to cast any criticism of primary candidates aside as "you're just nitpicking and looking for Dem Jesus!"

Vasudus
May 30, 2003
I would argue that the primaries are the absolute time to play holier-than-thou politics, as long as everyone comes home in November.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

Handsome Ralph posted:

Yeah in regards to the Warren being a republican up until 1996 thing, doesn't really bother me all that much when you look at what New England Republicans usually end up being and they're usually far and wide much different then their national brethren. Maine and New Hampshire excluded.

that and a 1996 republican is much different from a bush or obama era chud

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Vasudus posted:

I would argue that the primaries are the absolute time to play holier-than-thou politics, as long as everyone comes home in November.

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/dannydevito/status/1098304288168718336?s=21

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Vasudus posted:

I would argue that the primaries are the absolute time to play holier-than-thou politics, as long as everyone comes home in November.

This is exactly correct. I don't get the backlash against calling out policy differences or past behavior when that's the whole point of primaries.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P33yU1uUzOA

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

https://twitter.com/Julian_Epp/status/1098306161546354689?s=19

He's always been a Bernie fan and a socialist

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
i can't believe danny devito hates minorities and women!

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
When they go high, Danny DeVito goes low

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
https://twitter.com/dhberman/status/1098297846208647169?s=21

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Trump's election completely shattered my boundaries of what I considered electability on a national level so what the hell Bernie 2020. Promise to serve only 1 term to counter the concerns about age, clear Trump out of the way and hope for a younger progressive Dem in 2024?

EBB
Feb 15, 2005

danny devito is a friend to labor

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
That's part of the problem, 2016 changed all the rules. The Democrats cupboard is full of people prepared to fight pre 2016 elections

EBB
Feb 15, 2005


this take is so hot i want it to launch this guy into the sun

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Mirrors
Oct 25, 2007
Without a hint of irony to speak of, I'd really like to cite the famous GiP dick art book in a serious academic setting, if there's someone reading this thread that still has a copy and would be willing to help me out with some pictures and information for citations, I'd be ever so graciously appreciative.

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