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rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Buttcoin purse posted:

Man, you're allowed to use dongles with a VM? I remember dongles (well, the dongle drivers) which would refuse to operate if you had Remote Desktoped into the machine :negative:

I assume the theory was: our software is so loving expensive that it would be worthwhile spreading your development team out across time zones - despite the inefficiencies that would cause in your team - and then have people Remote Desktop into a shared machine to use our software over high-latency intercontinental Internet connections, but we would really prefer that you just bought more licenses, so no Remote Desktop allowed.

I just wanted to be able to work from home when I had to work out of hours :saddowns:

The working theory of business-class software is to bend the customer over as far as they will go and use the legal minimum of lube. After all, they're making money with it, they can afford it, gotta pay to play suckers.

I have used precisely one piece of business software (excluding Adobe products) that I thought the hassle was worth the price, it was a mailing list generator for newspaper delivery via USPS. It saved us about $75 a week in postage, the company handled all the ever-changing byzantine rules of periodical post so all we had to do was push the button, print labels, and fold and sort papers according to instructions. Nevertheless, when it fell over (which it did, frequently), it was like pulling teeth to get it back up and running. Support was basically a phone call straight to the devs, and our boss was a former DBA so she spoke the same jargon, so when she got involved support went smoothly.

We had one rural customer who was a typical old, before we used the software he got his paper at 9:30 am every Thursday rain or shine and that's how he liked it. He was right on the maximum edge for Zone 2 mailing though (ugh, USPS zoning rules) and every few rule changes he'd go from Zone 2 to Zone 4 or something, which meant his paper wasn't delivered until 9:30 am every Friday, which meant that 9:45 am every Thursday we'd get a thirty minute phonecall about forgetting to mail his newspaper, we're doing a terrible job of everything and should be ashamed of ourselves, he's a paying customer, back in his day etc. etc. etc. until his zone changed back in a couple of weeks.

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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


Would that be Melissa Data or something else?

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

Interlink Circulation.

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Someone brought up something that I haven't thankfully seen in a long while.

Remember Intellitext?
The stupid "service" that would inject hyperlinks into the most innocuous of words on any webpage that would go to some shopping site?

I think my first ad-block rule was turning that loving thing off.

Slippery
May 16, 2004


Muscles Boxcar

Robnoxious posted:

Someone brought up something that I haven't thankfully seen in a long while.

Remember Intellitext?
The stupid "service" that would inject hyperlinks into the most innocuous of words on any webpage that would go to some shopping site?

I think my first ad-block rule was turning that loving thing off.

Oh God yes, I assumed it was still around and just not as common. Is it gone forever??

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Robnoxious posted:

Someone brought up something that I haven't thankfully seen in a long while.

Remember Intellitext?
The stupid "service" that would inject hyperlinks into the most innocuous of words on any webpage that would go to some shopping site?

I think my first ad-block rule was turning that loving thing off.

Wasn't that like a VBulletin thing? I only really remember seeing that on forums and stuff.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Robnoxious posted:

Someone brought up something that I haven't thankfully seen in a long while.

Remember Intellitext?
The stupid "service" that would inject hyperlinks into the most innocuous of words on any webpage that would go to some shopping site?

I think my first ad-block rule was turning that loving thing off.

oh god this was the worst

I can't imagine a world without noscript now

EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

ishikabibble posted:

Wasn't that like a VBulletin thing? I only really remember seeing that on forums and stuff.

There were plugins for a bunch of bulletin boards, but it could even be added to a website with a simple JavaScript include, almost everything was done in the client browser.

The idea is still going, though even the most basic adblocker will stop it and most sites don’t bother as it nets them very little money.

PancakeTransmission
May 27, 2007

You gotta improvise, Lisa: cloves, Tom Collins mix, frozen pie crust...


Plaster Town Cop

Antioch posted:

I have, at work, two HASP keys for applications running on VMs.

The solution is a 12 port USB -> Network adapter. It has nothing but the two HASP keys plugged in, and requires *constant vigilance* or it will crash and die. I hate that thing with every fiber of my being.
I actually found a USB over Ethernet switch in a rack of ours, buried underneath all the excess cat-5. It's been there for months or years with a few dongles in it. So either ours isn't working at all (and nobody uses those programs anymore), or it's never needed maintenance.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Randaconda posted:

This is the model of 960 I have, and there's all kinds of room.



There's empty space certainly but even the mini GPU covers up a SATA port and a larger one would interfere with RAM and/or the drive cage


But anyway I'm pretty happy with this solution, now that CPUs don't double in performance every 2 years these fleet specials are a great value.

mobby_6kl has a new favorite as of 21:14 on Feb 22, 2019

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

mobby_6kl posted:

There's empty space certainly but even the mini GPU covers up a SATA port and a larger one would interfere with RAM and/or the drive cage


But anyway I'm pretty happy with this solution, now that SPUs don't double in performance every 2 years these fleet specials are a great value.

My first thought was "why are there two beepers :confused:" because I'm just old :corsair:

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Jerry Cotton posted:

My first thought was "why are there two beepers :confused:" because I'm just old :corsair:

Beepers?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Eighty-millimetre fan hubs look like PC internal speakers.

That’s my guess.

F4rt5
May 20, 2006

Jerry Cotton posted:

My first thought was "why are there two beepers :confused:" because I'm just old :corsair:

That was my first reaction too

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

mobby_6kl posted:

There's empty space certainly but even the mini GPU covers up a SATA port and a larger one would interfere with RAM and/or the drive cage


But anyway I'm pretty happy with this solution, now that CPUs don't double in performance every 2 years these fleet specials are a great value.
It looks like the hard drives are upside-down just like in the Dell Optiplex 755 I had? I don't understand why that's a thing.

Jerry Cotton posted:

My first thought was "why are there two beepers :confused:" because I'm just old :corsair:
:yossame:

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Buttcoin purse posted:

It looks like the hard drives are upside-down just like in the Dell Optiplex 755 I had? I don't understand why that's a thing.

Looking at the drive cage and rails, are those spacers to hold laptop drives? I got used to the green rails which only ran down the side, and it was fairly easy to get them in wrong and have the drive upside down, if memory serves.

Capt. Morgan
Feb 23, 2006

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VKN3FaI1Q

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I just bought a SONY LaserDisc MDP-605 from Yahoo Japan Auctions for $15 (plus shipping). Whelp back into LD I go!

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



Humphreys posted:

I just bought a SONY LaserDisc MDP-605 from Yahoo Japan Auctions for $15 (plus shipping). Whelp back into LD I go!

This makes me feel ok for wanting a MD player/recorder again.

Thanks, enabler.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
is it possible to find a good portable cassette player that isn't either NiB and way too pricy, or a modern piece of junk, or an old one i have to restore? do they still make good ones? maybe NiB is my best option...

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Nobody makes quality cassette players anymore, and they haven't for twenty years. Quality heads, drive gears, mechanisms, etc; nobody does that anymore.

Find yoself an Onkyo, Technics, Pioneer from pre-1985. At least, that's what I did.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
I just threw out a Technics 3-head direct drive tape deck where the drive wheel had touched the motor and burned everything :(

Now I only have 3 working decks left.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
i said portable, do i need to find new in box or what.

Queen Combat
Dec 29, 2017

Lipstick Apathy
Any walkman on ebay that's more than $90 and isn't a Direct Drive (DD - they split the plastic gears on the metal wheels). Or do you want, like, a boombox? In that case, same advice as above.

nishi koichi
Feb 16, 2007

everyone feels that way and gives up.
that's how they get away with it.
nice, thanks

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


bad posts ahead!!! posted:

is it possible to find a good portable cassette player that isn't either NiB and way too pricy, or a modern piece of junk, or an old one i have to restore? do they still make good ones? maybe NiB is my best option...

Enabling even more - I found a site called 'buyee' that acts as shipping proxy for Japanese auctions. I tested on a few Panasonic 3DOs and came through. Now Eagerly awating the LD to turn up. I used to have the same player and a bunch of discs years ago and yearn for them again for purely nostalgia.

EDIT: Turns out the shipping cost of a 20KG Laserdisc player is roughly $300. I have 25 more days to arrange shipping from the buyee warehouse in Japan. If there is a Japanese goon that wants a $15 player. Let me know and they can have it.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:51 on Mar 6, 2019

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfFeCfp_xPk

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
When he was talking about how low resolution it was, I said to myself "320x240" and was still mind blown when he said the resolution.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
19,000 pixels is a hilariously low resolution, even for 1999.

I had a WWF-themed webcam at the time that, I think, took higher res photos than that.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
Hell, 19,000 pixels is barely better than the gameboy camera. That's something like 128x128

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
SIX photos. Lmao. Imagine the awful realization when you shelled this out for your kid to take pictures at Disney only to find a few pictures of the plane ride home on it.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

an actual frog posted:

Hell, 19,000 pixels is barely better than the gameboy camera. That's something like 128x128

The Gameboy came out in 1989 so I am happy to give it a break. Even if you gave it a better camera it couldn't process them. Gameboy max out at 32 kiB of RAM when extended, 8 built-in with another 8 for video.

RC and Moon Pie
May 5, 2011

I had a Polaroid digital camera at that time that only allowed about 12 photos at regular size. Through some complicated series of buttons, you could make your photos smaller and thus fit a few more on there. I seem to remember it cost $70 or $80.

The first digital camera I ever used stored photos on 3.5 floppy disk.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It's crazy how we accepted poo poo quality products worse than what we already had just because it was new technology.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Sure, you could take a photo with a regular camera, go get the film processed, then scan in the printed photo at 75dpi (reasonable resolution for a screen), but sometimes the crappy photo off the floppy disk camera is good enough, and it's much more convenient. It's not like someone on dial-up wants to be sending particularly high-resolution photos via email anyway, so I guess it was really a question of what you wanted the photo for - I'd want to scan in a printed photo at 300dpi if I was going to use it in something that was going to be printed again, but if it was just for use on the web, low resolution might be fine. Even 128x128 is still usable for some things when some people's screens are 640x480, and that's the lowest common denominator you're designing your website around!

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Cojawfee posted:

It's crazy how we accepted poo poo quality products worse than what we already had just because it was new technology.

I'd say less new technology and more it was exciting conceptually. People didn't care about it being new technology so much as divorcing itself from film meant the entire back-end of film photography could just be safely ignored. You didn't have to constantly be buying more film if you want to take photos, and you didn't have to pay and wait to get your photos developed and printed once you took them. They were just there.

There's a touching little bit on it in one of The 8-Bit Guy's videos on an old webcam. He mentions he took a lot of photos with it as a pseudo-digital camera that he never would've taken with film, because it was just a lot more convenient than film, even if it's lower quality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxQjMlwDA8A

My family got our first digital camera in maybe 2001, but I distinctly remember experiencing the same sort of thing. It was just exciting and freeing for them to be able to just take photos and not have to worry about how much money each photo is actually costing between film and print, or needing to put in the hassle of going to a developer and getting them developed and do you really need a print of this? That you have to store and keep?

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Any kid who grew up in the film era probably caught poo poo from their parents for wasting film. You had to make drat sure the shot was good and you actually wanted it before you pressed the button.

When I got my first digital camera it was so cool to just take pictures of everything and only keep what you wanted.

Astoundingly Ugly Baby
Mar 22, 2006

"...crying bitch cave bitch boy."
- Anonymous Facebook user
Between 2003 and 2006, a friend and I used to buy disposable cameras and take a lot of pictures of random things we did, then we’d drop them off at the photo lab at walmart for them to get developed. We probably spent more than the cost of a digital camera back then on the disposables and the development. At one point, they started offering CDs loaded with our pictures along with the physical ones.

The one CD I somehow still have is from around 2005, judging by the cars we owned at the time playing a prominent role in almost every picture we took.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

ishikabibble posted:

There's a touching little bit on it in one of The 8-Bit Guy's videos on an old webcam. He mentions he took a lot of photos with it as a pseudo-digital camera that he never would've taken with film, because it was just a lot more convenient than film, even if it's lower quality.

I was big into online auctions in the late 90s/early 00s. I bought a capture card and took screen grabs from an old camcorder's live feed. While the quality was exactly what you're imagining, it was absolutely amazing being able to take a photo and immediately upload it and add it to a listing. It was one of those "this is the future!!!" moments. Besides, with enough light and a tripod the images weren't really that bad.

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WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn

Horace posted:

I was big into online auctions in the late 90s/early 00s. I bought a capture card and took screen grabs from an old camcorder's live feed. While the quality was exactly what you're imagining, it was absolutely amazing being able to take a photo and immediately upload it and add it to a listing. It was one of those "this is the future!!!" moments. Besides, with enough light and a tripod the images weren't really that bad.

Haha that is such a janky solution to your specific need, but it works.

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