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Does anyone still fall for this reductive "socialism = free stuff" bullshit outside the idiots drinking the right-wing kool-aid?
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Besesoth posted:The irony is that Stonetoss's entire body of work can be summed up as god i wish we didn't have rules against touching the poop lmao
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seiferguy posted:Where do the antivaxxers fall? over the graves of their children
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Sandpuppy posted:SOME GITMO 
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Feb 22, 2019 05:22
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I think this comic is fine insofar as Rall is graded on an art curve but the accompanying text is hilariously stupid lol.
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Feb 22, 2019 07:41
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 Dang. Brancos Bernie is loving ripped. Based on the door he's like 6,4 too.
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Jay Rust posted:Yeah what is Horsey’s point? Are we meant to disagree with the dude’s righteous anger? I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: 
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What's that, Dave? Rall? Pfeh! What this thread needs is some Rall! 2024 read-along: How to date your book in one loving page  Okay so 1984 is interesting because it specifies a year but is pretty cleverly not set in that year- or rather, it doesn't need to be set specifically in 1984; it could be set in the real 1984, it could be set a repeat of 1984, it could be a full ten years before 1984, it could be set two hundred years in the future and yet it's still 1984 because the Party has decided it is 1984, history has stopped and time is at an end and there will never be a future for anyone anymore. To emphasise the alienation of that world from his own, and to make the book ironically timeless, Orwell didn't put in any actual people. We're not even sure if the heroes of the revolution that Winston sees are the actual heroes of the actual revolution because Winston himself is one of dozens of people who are rewriting time constantly to make sure the present was preordained and the past doesn't meaningfully affect it. Rall, on the other hand, loving loves his pop culture references. So we meet "Bush, Macnelly and Tyler" at a Club Med- Rall would both earnestly and ironically choose a Club Med as a destination so I can't tell which he's doing here- which places the timeline within spitting distance of the actual year of 2024, since these guys are meant to be former President George H. W. Bush, Aerosmith's Steven Tyler, and, I'm pretty sure, Rall's fellow political cartoonist Jeff MacNelly (dismissively referred to as "the other guy" despite being loving dead when the book was published). Apparently they all got done for tax evasion (JUST LIKE CAPONE LOL) but all that happened to them was that they were disgraced and are now awaiting trial. No imminent execution, no thoughtcrime in having seen them, no reason to give a single poo poo about oh my god those big vertical zig-zags are how Rall draws chest hair. There is a lot of chest hair in this. Get used to it. So now Rallston is once again going over how much he doesn't like his life because Rall has realised, at this point, that Ralltopia is a cushy loving place so he needs Rallston to really sell the idea that he wants a revolution. Rallston explains to us that he tries not to think, despite Rall having established that he loving plays mind games with himself while exercising and goes to a therapist on the regular. Rall demonstrates to us that he doesn't understand postmodernism, and he drops in a quick two and two are five lol joke while he explains it (I'm not loving reading Derrida to figure out if Rall's take is accurate and honest but I'm gonna assume maybe the former and definitely not the latter), followed by a shot of Rallston falling to his death while he drops a random fuckin' sentence that doesn't make any sense in context and will only make some sense when we get to the end section of the book. This is the bit of 1984 where we learn that thought criminals, who are explicitly unpersons, are set loose upon the city and deliberately allowed to be seen by members of the Party, who are expected to quite literally not believe their eyes. In 2024, Rall has Rallston not recognise a fellow political cartoonist who's boozing it up with a former President and a former rock superstar at a Club Med. making GBS threads on a recently deceased member his own profession for no loving reason at all. Same diff, right? Somfin fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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Jurgan posted:There is some truth to the idea that pharmaceutical companies don’t put much money into researching a cure because it wouldn’t pay off for years, while patenting slightly better treatments can make profit immediately. Where it veers into paranoid conspiracy mongering is when they claim there’s a fully functioning cure in a vial somewhere that is being withheld. There are hundreds of thousands of people in that industry; someone would leak it. "They have a cure and are hiding it" vs "the company doesn't want to compete on a field fraught with liability problems so they're trying to keep anyone from entering it". If they even had a theoretical path to a cure for one of the big diseases, the medical community is so full of glory hounds it would be leaked within hours. Big pharma would absolutely be willing to do all the evil poo poo they've been accused of, but fortunately they're not competent and cohesive enough to pull things like that off. If you think they're one big entity full of people willing to sacrifice personal gain for evil money for the whole company, you've got your head in the sand.
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While SESTA-FOSTA and his takes on racism are legit criticism that I agree with, if your criticism is "was more radical in the past", then I've got some bad news for you about the democratic party
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Dimebags Brain posted:I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: Is this meant to be a bad thing?
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His Divine Shadow posted:Is this meant to be a bad thing? Yes. It’s literally “I thought they were only going to go after the big bad company I don’t like, but coherent criticisms of capitalism make me nervous.”
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Somfin posted:2024 read-along: How to date your book in one loving page Things being subjective doesnt mean nothing matters rall you dumb nihilist gently caress. Also now that the story has been officially dated as for sure taking place in actual 2024 the specifics of how things got to this point in only 21 years is way more important, but will probably never be answered because rall isnt smart enough to weave a believable societal downfall, he can only show its endpoint. Which has always seemed like a copout to me in these kinds of stories. There are a million awful end of the world conservative novellas but they all at least try to explain why white people not being allowed to say the N word or letting trans people use the bathroom caused society to collapse or whatever.
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Sandpuppy posted:SOME GITMO    Winslow's asking Carmen if her never-Trump convictions extend to not voting GOP if Trump is the nominee again, and she can't loving answer. I was willing to believe Stantis voted third party in 2016 before, but, eesh.
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endlessmonotony posted:Big pharma would absolutely be willing to do all the evil poo poo they've been accused of, but fortunately they're not competent and cohesive enough to pull things like that off. They don't need to create elaborate conspiracies about getting rich by withholding the cure for an extremely rare genetic disorder; not when they can instead get rich by getting people addicted to opioids. Oh, you stubbed your toe? Let me prescribe you with some Oxycontin! https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/oxycontin-how-purdue-pharma-helped-spark-opioid-epidemic/ Now people are openly talking about how Purdue deliberately fostered an addiction epidemics to make mad profit? Well, that just means that there's profit to be made in anti-addiction drugs! https://www.propublica.org/article/oxycontin-purdue-pharma-massachusetts-lawsuit-anti-addiction-market
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First Dog on the Moon: Australia has had a gutful
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Trapezium Dave posted:First Dog on the Moon: Australia has had a gutful I worry about this person. They seem to spend 100% of their time dwelling in the depths of despair.
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So I lost it due to facebook's algorithms, but there's apparently something going around that AOC funneled 6k through a superpac to her boyfriend. I've only dug up rightwing sources on it so far, but even if true how many cartoons are we going to get about this 6k is the height of corruption?
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Cat Mattress posted:This whole Jussie Smollett thing comes at the right time to avoid having to talk about Christopher Paul Hasson.
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It's not that weird, Smollett is a story about something happening while Hasson is a story about something almost happening.
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Internet Kraken posted:I worry about this person. They seem to spend 100% of their time dwelling in the depths of despair. Well, he's Australian.
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Dimebags Brain posted:I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: Isn't Horsey also the staff cartoonist and thus occasionally does illustrations for articles in the paper? This one is specifically local enough I could see it being published to illustrate an open letter from the "Seattle business community". Ambitious Spider posted:So I lost it due to facebook's algorithms, but there's apparently something going around that AOC funneled 6k through a superpac to her boyfriend. I've only dug up rightwing sources on it so far, but even if true how many cartoons are we going to get about this 6k is the height of corruption? Well since you can't even find it again, I'm going to go with none. duz fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Feb 22, 2019 |
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Ambitious Spider posted:So I lost it due to facebook's algorithms, but there's apparently something going around that AOC funneled 6k through a superpac to her boyfriend. I've only dug up rightwing sources on it so far, but even if true how many cartoons are we going to get about this 6k is the height of corruption? It came up in the USPOL thread but it basically involved misinterpreting/making some real reaching assumptions to make it look like there was money trying to be secretly funneled, then keying in on her boyfriend getting paid $6k for marketing work, which is his actual job.
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Cat Mattress posted:They don't need to create elaborate conspiracies about getting rich by withholding the cure for an extremely rare genetic disorder; not when they can instead get rich by getting people addicted to opioids. Oh, you stubbed your toe? Let me prescribe you with some Oxycontin! Yeah now this is the sort of poo poo they deserve to get kicked in the face for. I think one thing that throws people is there are lots of things that get to the trial stage and on the surface show promise but don't get approved. I know from experience FDA are really serious about their poo poo so if something didn't get approved it's not some big pharma conspiracy, it's because there's something seriously wrong.
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Ambitious Spider posted:So I lost it due to facebook's algorithms, but there's apparently something going around that AOC funneled 6k through a superpac to her boyfriend. I've only dug up rightwing sources on it so far, but even if true how many cartoons are we going to get about this 6k is the height of corruption? This is a complete lie, the "reporter" who "found" this was not clearly to read a chart properly, it's 100% BS
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This is what Peters is referring to: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/01/half-male-half-female-cardinal-pennsylvania/
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Dimebags Brain posted:I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: Okay, but are we supposed to read this as being sympathetic to the business people? The rest of his work isn't particularly pro-capitalism.
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Good job humblebragging about what a loser he was in highschool.
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Dimebags Brain posted:I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: Is that Bernie sanders?
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Feb 22, 2019 16:54
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So is each page of 2024 supposed to like lead into meaningfully into the next?
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betaraywil posted:So is each page of 2024 supposed to like lead into meaningfully into the next? That seems ambitious given most of the panels even don't lead into the next.
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Ugh. It isn't transgender, it's intersex, you willfully ignorant fucker. It was born this way.
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RoboRodent posted:intersex I'll take two!
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Dimebags Brain posted:I'd say we're meant to sympathize with him, but Horsey did also draw this: "The problems are bad, but their causes are very good"
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