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overusing metaphors sure seems like the way to trick fantasy dorks into thinking something has "good writing"
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my bony fealty posted:overusing metaphors sure seems like the way to trick fantasy dorks into thinking something has "good writing" My favorite Kvothe thing: "Denna, I love you with all my heart and soul, you are my everything" - Buys Kvothe something worth 1000 gold or whatever the gently caress "Gee, I wonder if she likes me"
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Feb 21, 2019 16:32
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Teenagers are massive idiots though.
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Feb 22, 2019 03:44
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Ccs posted:Teenagers are massive idiots though. There's massive idiots and then there's 'having long romantic evenings with her repeatedly and still constantly going "But what if she doesn't like me!?  ". Also for someone so important to Kvothe she sure is basically not mentioned during the present-day sections outside of the storytelling bits.
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Feb 22, 2019 04:11
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this is why it's important to write what you know. rothfuss kind of doesn't understand that part of being a charming, talented and physically attractive guy (like kvothe, allegedly) is that they usually don't have to go through multiple romantic evenings wondering if their crush is physically attracted to them. it gets settled fairly fast.
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Feb 22, 2019 05:20
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Kchama posted:Also for someone so important to Kvothe she sure is basically not mentioned during the present-day sections outside of the storytelling bits. That's one of the mysteries that makes you want to keep reading?
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Feb 22, 2019 05:22
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pseudanonymous posted:That's one of the mysteries that makes you want to keep reading? From my experience Denna is the thing that makes a lot of people want to stop reading.
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Feb 22, 2019 05:58
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Kchama posted:From my experience Denna is the thing that makes a lot of people want to stop reading.  Adds not a thing to the story, and she behaves like some redditors /nicegirls post.
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Feb 22, 2019 12:34
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ElGroucho posted:The first three ASOIAF novels are great They're all garbage, friend.
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Feb 22, 2019 13:49
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:They're all garbage, friend. *gasp* probably, but I didn't hate the characters quite like I've grown to hate Our Very Special Boy
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Feb 22, 2019 16:07
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ElGroucho posted:*gasp* Oh, the "likable characters" canard
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Feb 22, 2019 16:11
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ASOAIF is a million times better than Rothfuss. It has like a plot and development and so forth.
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Feb 22, 2019 20:47
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porfiria posted:ASOAIF is a million times better than Rothfuss. It has like a plot and development and so forth. Doubtful.
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Feb 22, 2019 20:55
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If you don't think A Game of Thrones is a serviceable novel you're in for a bad time reading fantasy and sci-fi.
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Feb 23, 2019 00:00
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Have you read a single BravestOfTheLamps post?
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Feb 23, 2019 00:04
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Have you read a single BravestOfTheLamps post? I don't think they've read any novels either.
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As much as it's cool to hate on Grrm I think he does some pretty cool stuff. On a basic plot level he's definitely good at setting up conflicted characters and then smashing them together. But I like how he uses different approaches to fantasy as an exploration of political fiction. Ned and Sansa think the world is entirely an arthurian romance of noble knights and wise queens, and they consistently get outplayed by their enemies. But at the same time, Jaime and the Hound reject this, and frame everything in a very cynical, Abercrombie style, where everyone is petty and lecherous and violent, and this massively limits their influence on the world. It'd be easy for Grrm to call one of these worldviews correct and the other incorrect, but I like that he acknowledges the importance of political fictions. The most successful house is Tyrell, which is able to juggle the constructed world of nobility along with the brutal savagery of feudalism. Its a much more nuanced take on power than any modern fantasy I've seen.
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Feb 23, 2019 00:54
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Sham bam bamina! posted:Have you read a single BravestOfTheLamps post? I have him blocked so most of what I see from him is quotes.
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Feb 23, 2019 01:49
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the guys who writes the game of thrones books is bad at writing. this shocks you!
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Feb 23, 2019 03:58
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It'd be easy for Grrm to call one of these worldviews correct and the other incorrect, but I like that he acknowledges the importance of political fictions. The most successful house is Tyrell, which is able to juggle the constructed world of nobility along with the brutal savagery of feudalism. Its a much more nuanced take on power than any modern fantasy I've seen. How is "being all dead" the most successful in your mind?
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Feb 23, 2019 04:16
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Fun fact: I read Song of Ice and Fire because someone recommended it after I told them that I loved Bolaños's 2666
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Feb 23, 2019 05:34
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Benson Cunningham posted:I have him blocked why
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Benson Cunningham posted:I have him blocked so most of what I see from him is quotes. 
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Feb 23, 2019 10:50
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Because he's confused knowing the definitions of words like canard or zeitgeist with the ability to produce relevant literary criticism.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:25
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They're one of those people who liked the Let's Read and now feel betrayed that I disagreed over Star Wars or some poo poo.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:35
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pseudanonymous posted:How is "being all dead" the most successful in your mind? They're alive and kicking in the books.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:58
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Strom Cuzewon posted:They're alive and kicking in the books. I have a hard time believing they've diverged that much. Blowing up the holy whatever it's called does an excellent job of resolving the problems in King's Landing that Cersei faces, and it's somewhat presaged with how much Cersei loves watching the tower of the hand burn. It also reveals that a lot of the prophecies vis a vis Cersei are sort of double-bluffed, because we're meant to see the queen who supplants Cersei as Maegary when in fact it's Daenerys.
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pseudanonymous posted:I have a hard time believing they've diverged that much. Blowing up the holy whatever it's called does an excellent job of resolving the problems in King's Landing that Cersei faces, and it's somewhat presaged with how much Cersei loves watching the tower of the hand burn. It also reveals that a lot of the prophecies vis a vis Cersei are sort of double-bluffed, because we're meant to see the queen who supplants Cersei as Maegary when in fact it's Daenerys. It’s not so much that they’ve diverged, it’s that the show is way past the books now because it’s been nearly 8 years since the last book, and over 13 since the last book where something actually happened, so the show outpaced it pretty quickly and is way past the events of the books already
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Chuck Buried Treasure posted:It’s not so much that they’ve diverged, it’s that the show is way past the books now because it’s been nearly 8 years since the last book, and over 13 since the last book where something actually happened, so the show outpaced it pretty quickly and is way past the events of the books already Right, but my understanding is that GRRM had major points plotted out and the show is mostly following them, though not introducing new storylines ala the extraneous Targaryean. The whole "blow up the church" thing is such an elegant solution that it seems hard to believe it's not going to happen in the books.
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pseudanonymous posted:Right, but my understanding is that GRRM had major points plotted out and the show is mostly following them, though not introducing new storylines ala the extraneous Targaryean. The whole "blow up the church" thing is such an elegant solution that it seems hard to believe it's not going to happen in the books. I see, when you said “diverged” I misunderstood and thought you meant from what was already written, not from what Martin is planning. Yes, I believe he gave them the outline of where he plans to end the series at the beginning because no one is under the impression that Martin will outlive the book series.
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Rothfuss is the master of "say, don't show" "But your eyes... your eyes are different, and they make me so horny!" Fela said, squirming in her seat, her pussy getting wet (because she was horny for Kvothe).
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Feb 23, 2019 19:23
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ElGroucho posted:Rothfuss is the master of "say, don't show" That doesn't sound like Rothfuss at all. "But your eyes..." she trailed off. She felt a sensation in three parts, one hot, one sticky, and one purely wet. "They're so different." She licked her lips, then slowly parted them. It was the cut-flower sound of a cock waiting to get sucked.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:27
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pseudanonymous posted:That doesn't sound like Rothfuss at all. lmao
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Feb 23, 2019 19:29
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pseudanonymous posted:That doesn't sound like Rothfuss at all.
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https://twitter.com/theonion/status/834561975929753600?s=21
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Strom Cuzewon posted:They're alive and kicking in the books. Loras is dead or dying and the rest are getting ready to head to the Great Sept for Cersei's trial. If GRRM ever wrote another book they'd be killed off in it.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:56
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Spoiler alert: they are all in my rear end
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Feb 23, 2019 20:43
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Benson Cunningham posted:Because he's confused knowing the definitions of words like canard or zeitgeist with the ability to produce relevant literary criticism. what's relevant literary criticism?
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I'm 99% sure that the outline GRRM gave to HBO is now meaningless beyond broad things like "Jon and Dany sacrifice themselves to stop the white walkers, Sansa ends up as Queen" because D&D are pulling things out of their butts and George is a self-described "free-form writer", has heavily modified the story since A Dance of Dragons and it's probably angling a Arianne/Aegon as Tudors ending or something like that
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A human heart posted:what's relevant literary criticism? Have you ever done that thing where you put your hands together and make fart noises? Basically that, but about books.
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