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Holy poo poo how do you read and parse this out? In their effort to put out information they've put out so much that you can't even parse data from it. Like looking at a character sheet from friggin Disgaea; some stats you don't even know what they do.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:04
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That's literally the idea, yea. They release statements and videos and piles of bullshit that make it difficult to discern what they actually said in the past. The mind fogs, thoughts cloud, and you find yourself escaping to ~dreams~
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Feb 23, 2019 18:07
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TheAgent posted:$1,000/session I'm guessing Are you loving kidding me?
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Feb 23, 2019 18:10
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https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1098971265824706561 https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1099122224584380416 https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1098427898057445376 https://twitter.com/TheRealGremlich/status/1098710750619672576
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Feb 23, 2019 18:28
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I find it hilarious, especially when it comes to the planets, that they defend CI!G dropping all but a handful of them for release when *checks notes* Braben and his proc gen spits out billions of systems using 64 bit positioning. Then again, the original Elite was proc gen and did it well, so if anyone could do it, it would be him and his team. Now, to give CI!G a bit of credit, you can land on any planet in the game, atmosphere or not. You can only land on atmosphere-less planets in Elite.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:32
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This Rexilla stream is amazing. It shares a lot with the Citcon stream: he can arrange these props and scenery in this basically competent Cryengine mod, and as long as everyone just believes it looks like a real game. And now he's baffled that someone would blow up his spaceship after his team "won" the game.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:39
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TheAgent posted:woke up this morning with a hangover and somebody paying a one month sub to rexzilla for me I roll over in bed and Chris Roberts is there. Me: “Oh god... oh god... What did we do last night?” Chris: (stuttering and gesticulating wildly) “Well...uhh...uhm...what didn’t we do?!” Frantically I search for my phone, finding it under a crumpled Test Squadron shirt. I open my credit card app and there is a $10,000 charge from Cloud Imperium. I look over at Chris, and he gives me a sheepish grin before before slinking out of the room. Halfway through the door, he turns towards me winks and says softly but with a touch of irony “Congratulations... commando”.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:44
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bbchops posted:This Rexilla stream is amazing. It shares a lot with the Citcon stream: he can arrange these props and scenery in this basically competent Cryengine mod, and as long as everyone just believes it looks like a real game. A weirdly real moment about how all gaming is role-playing. While selling the idea of becoming a space janitor.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:47
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quote:By curtailing frivolous and "fighting" words, the Party seeks to narrow the range of thought altogether, such that eventually, thoughtcrime will be literally impossible.
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Feb 23, 2019 18:48
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Agony Aunt posted:Love the start of that. He thinks its important that everyone knows he has faith. Hint: It won't. Chris tried his best, technology just wasn't there yet, had more fun with SC up until now than every other game I've ever played, the awesome community alone was worth it, bla bla bla. These same 7 guys over at the gamestar pinboard in the SC thread speculating that there will be a jump from 43% to 100% completed when 3.5 hits the "evos" as a nice surprise from CIG, discuss whether or not the shields have to be down if you tow a ship with your shiny, new space salvage truck and try to sucker in a poor soul that made the mistake setting foot in "their" thread. Believe me, Chris could laugh at them, say "Thanks for all the money, I really enjoy my new Ferrari. Have to go now, my plane to the bahamas is waiting, enjoy SC you dumb fucks" and they would still love it. Really don't know what is up with those people, can't even think of something similar. A guy I knew a few years back came to mind, he collected guitars but couldn't play and payed insane amounts of money for some vintage stuff... but well, he has nice guitars now and could probably sell them to get even or make a bit of profit when some of these raise in value over the years, so that doesn't compare. The crap people bought from CIG is and will be worth just... nothing. Literally burnt money for Chris to play movie/game producer. ggangensis fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Feb 23, 2019 |
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LostMy2010Accnt posted:Holy poo poo how do you read and parse this out? In their effort to put out information they've put out so much that you can't even parse data from it. Like looking at a character sheet from friggin Disgaea; some stats you don't even know what they do. And nowhere in there do I see the milestone of making a good game.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:05
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colonelwest posted:I commented that SC is already far beyond ARMA, Planetside and Battlefield, then Rex reflexively agrees with me but then struggles for several minutes to justify why. I can't hear this stuff but this sounds very funny. I think you may have uncovered a fun new way to mess around with CIG guys. Getting them to talk about how awesome the game is and then somehow also justify it. It's easy to say "oh this so so much better than X!" But the follow up "because..." is the best part they need to struggle with. 
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Feb 23, 2019 19:13
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Feb 23, 2019 19:16
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bbchops posted:A weirdly real moment about how all gaming is role-playing. While selling the idea of becoming a space janitor. And now Rex has died, but of course this isn't a real game so there's no spectator mode. And his game crashed. And his new ship got stolen. loving priceless.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:20
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bbchops posted:And now Rex has died, but of course this isn't a real game so there's no spectator mode. And his game crashed. And his new ship got stolen. loving priceless. Meanwhile his team have "won" and he immediately instructs everyone to drop to the main menu. Intriguing.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:21
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iron buns posted:At the beginning of the year, 3.5 was 21% done and SQ42 Q1 was 29% done. This may come as something of a surprise to you, but CIGs progress is not measured by actual content. If a feature isn't going to make 3.x they just cut that feature and release it as 3.x anyway. This may be fine except sometimes that feature is sometimes never heard from again, or is somehow implied "it's been completed" and now they're making the 2 version of it somehow and that 2 version is even better and bigger than the 1 version nobody ever saw. This is the CIG way.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:21
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SomethingJones posted:This is a good point. By what metric do you measure the success/failure of any of this? It will make it less likely for the new investors to pull their money out when they see what a shitshow they burned their cash for. If the new investors invoke any rights at all regarding immediate return of their capital, it's game over for CI that very moment. The guys who fronted Chris this cash are obviously not too bright - they gave Chris Roberts money. So it's clearly easy to trick them with a shill, no matter how obvious. If only someone were educating them behind the scenes anyway, this could all be drawing to a hilarious close.
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Ah, so they think CI!G gets to redefine the meaning of a word for a while industry.
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colonelwest posted:I commented that SC is already far beyond ARMA, Planetside and Battlefield, then Rex reflexively agrees with me but then struggles for several minutes to justify why. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/385065991?t=04h34m38s Here's Rex's full response to me. It's pretty funny watching him try to reconcile the idea that Star Citizen isn't a hardcore mil sim, but he's streaming hardcore mil sim bs every day, while there a dozens of better games to do it in. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Feb 23, 2019 |
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bbchops posted:This Rexilla stream is amazing. It shares a lot with the Citcon stream: he can arrange these props and scenery in this basically competent Cryengine mod, and as long as everyone just believes it looks like a real game. Can't be true. There is no win in SC. If there was it would be pay to win. What is winning anyway?
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Feb 23, 2019 19:41
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Agony Aunt posted:Can't be true. There is no win in SC. If there was it would be pay to win. What is winning anyway? Umm, it's whatever the guy with 10 starter packs to give away says it is.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:43
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Agony Aunt posted:Can't be true. There is no win in SC. If there was it would be pay to win. What is winning anyway? Clifford won Star Citizen, at least until someone posts a screenshot showing that they spent more than his current 58K and are an even bigger rube than him.
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Feb 23, 2019 19:46
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Pro-click: https://www.netflix.com/title/81015076 Behind The Curve - Meet the growing, worldwide community of theorists who defend the belief that the Earth is flat while living in a society that vehemently rejects it Go watch it, it's hilarious and soooo many of the arguments, analysis and personalities in it mirror CI!G and Citizens  
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reverend crabhands posted:Is that a Brit/US thing then? As with all such things, its not 100% and you get differences even within regions of a country. Barking orders isn't a US thing though. The hard sell is. Rex in day to day life probably doesn't go around shouting at people (unless he has OD's on the Red Bull). What he is doing is the hard sell. Different cultures tend to react to things in different ways. Here's a story for you. Some years ago a German sales guy was selling a product. The presentation was always very well recieved in Germany. It went into lots of details regarding specification, how well it performed, etc. He made lots of sales in Germany. So, it came time to sell the product in Germany and he was assisted by a colleage from the US. So, he gets up in front of the crowd and gives his presentation. When he's finished you could hear crickets. No questions, no sales. He was dumbfoudned. His American colleage said, look, you're not going to sell the product to us doing that. Tomorrow i'll do the presentation and show you. Next day he gets up there and basically starts jumping around and shouting and screaming how this is the best product ever. How their lives will be worthless if they don't buy this product. How they would be mad to miss out on this deal of a lifetime. The audience loved it and he made lots of sales. The German colleague was dumbfounded. He couldn't understand how people were willing to buy it without being given any information about how the product actually performed, without specifications, without any facts. But he understood he had to do it like that if he was going to sell to Americans, so he changed his presentation style to cater to the culture and made the sales. As a generalization, people in the US don't care about facts when it comes to buying stuff, you have to make an emotional appeal to them, they will lap it up. You've got to sell them on the dream of what it can be, not what it is. This is why Chris sells SC as the best thing ever, never been done before, people will live their dreams in SC! CR fell in love with the US when he was young and totally in love with the culture. He might be a Manc by birth but he's a Yank by character. EDIT: There are some good books on the topic. Give When Cutures Collide by Michael Lewis a read. Its pretty good. Agony Aunt fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Feb 23, 2019 |
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Bofast posted:I doubt Rexzilla would go over well with Swedes, either, tbh. We're probably closer to the Brits in that regard. Cultural differences are fascinating. While we are all the same at our core, we have the same basic needs and desires, how we project those differently between cultures is really bizarre. I once heard how in Finland they take personal space to a whole new level, beyond even what us Brits do. I heard someone say if a Fin gets on a bus they will sit at one end. When the next person gets on they will sit at the other end to be as far from the other person as possible. I laughed and then asked a Finnish friend about it and he said it was generally true.
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Feb 23, 2019 20:01
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bbchops posted:And now Rex has died, but of course this isn't a real game so there's no spectator mode. And his game crashed. And his new ship got stolen. loving priceless. It will be really interesting to see where he is by summer, and whether yesteryear’s streamers stick around. If CIG is still getting sponsor rigs out to people, they presumably want them to hang in there. But I’m not sure why they’d want to if it means they have to watch CIG appoint a Johnny come lately ubershill as their leader. Especially once CitizenCon rolls around. Scruffpuff is right, too. If Rex serves no other purpose beyond propping up the confidence of the new money investors, he’s worth every penny. Chris and Erin both are acting pretty boxed in at this point. It’s part of why we’ve been in a  drought — they’re finally worried about making huge gaffes and outlandish promises. They’ve outsourced the hype train to Rex even as they’re starving their subscribers of the stuff they’re longing to see. Star Citizen will crawl along for the next year, most of its “progress” coming from new ship releases to keep the cash flow stable, while the brain trust at CIG tries to turn a CYOA space opera movie into something resembling a game.
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Agony Aunt posted:Cultural differences are fascinating. While we are all the same at our core, we have the same basic needs and desires, how we project those differently between cultures is really bizarre. Here's another one i heard about, although can't find a source for it. I heard about one culture whose religion taught them that the future was known and set and the past was uknowable and changable. They should have been called Citizens.
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Agony Aunt posted:*snip* Friendly reminder you can say something is the "best" in the US while advertising it, but the moment you claim it's better you need to be able to back it up.
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Lol ShapCap is such an unrepentant piece of poo poo, I love it
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Feb 23, 2019 20:39
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G0RF posted:It will be really interesting to see where he is by summer There were a few moments when it looked like the facade was slipping. There was a discussion about other play styles, and how he wasn't all about PvP. Wanted to play some single player space exploration some day. Someone else in his voice chat started to drop the party line about the new gameplay opportunities coming, like medics being able to revive coming in 3.7 and attachments in 3.6. There was a brief flash when Rex realised that was he had was all he was going to get, for months and months and months. Then he started pushing 890 Jumps again.
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Beet Wagon posted:Lol ShapCap is such an unrepentant piece of poo poo, I love it It's one of the requirements for having dinner with Chris Roberts, along with buying a $350 ticket. Inner circle cultist! 
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bbchops posted:There were a few moments when it looked like the facade was slipping. There was a discussion about other play styles, and how he wasn't all about PvP. Wanted to play some single player space exploration some day. Someone else in his voice chat started to drop the party line about the new gameplay opportunities coming, like medics being able to revive coming in 3.7 and attachments in 3.6. There was a brief flash when Rex realised that was he had was all he was going to get, for months and months and months. There's a constant tension between the fps mil-sim gameplay he's forcing through sheer persistence and willpower and what the game has been advertised and sold to be, which is a space life simulator with deep roleplaying via highly complex spaceships. But if if he engaged in that side of the game, he would just bang his head against the broken fetch missions and exhaust all of the currently available content in one stream.
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bbchops posted:There were a few moments when it looked like the facade was slipping. There was a discussion about other play styles, and how he wasn't all about PvP. Wanted to play some single player space exploration some day. Someone else in his voice chat started to drop the party line about the new gameplay opportunities coming, like medics being able to revive coming in 3.7 and attachments in 3.6. There was a brief flash when Rex realised that was he had was all he was going to get, for months and months and months. 2000 watching him now. 70 watching Saurus. 55 watching Relay. (Relay, where tune stands forever still, was just dogging on Illfonic because why not?)
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