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RIP Syndrome posted:What kind of dumbass plan involves sending a couple truckloads of weapons across the border anyway, when there's already weapons everywhere and the trucks would get inspected anyway. Wouldn't it be smarter as a PR move where they strangle the economy first and then send in aid in a "see we're the good guys and Maduro is bad" and he's damned if he accepts it and damned if he doesn't? they already strangled the economy, this is the ‘we are the good guys’ casus belli and yes it is dumb as hell. These things are always dumb as hell.
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Presenting Nipples posted:they already strangled the economy, this is the ‘we are the good guys’ casus belli and yes it is dumb as hell. These things are always dumb as hell. Yeah, I mean, why would there be weapons in the trucks, it makes no sense. They got the dead economy, the PR and now the CB.
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RIP Syndrome posted:What kind of dumbass plan involves sending a couple truckloads of weapons across the border anyway, when there's already weapons everywhere and the trucks would get inspected anyway. Wouldn't it be smarter as a PR move where they strangle the economy first and then send in aid in a "see we're the good guys and Maduro is bad" and he's damned if he accepts it and damned if he doesn't? We did this before. Abrams did this exact thing before
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I know, just unsure about why the trucks would be explodey. Russia did something similar in Ukraine.
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stoked to vote for comrade sanders in nh. to my friends in iowa, gently caress 'em up, fam
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Epic High Five posted:as we speak, protesters stopped US "aid" trucks on a bridge and set them on fire, and for some reason all our humanitarian supplies are literally exploding when exposed to the heat of the fire Even if that's true, the usual suspects can blame it on a car bomb
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RIP Syndrome posted:I know, just unsure about why the trucks would be explodey. Russia did something similar in Ukraine. You put arms on the trucks in case they are let in, so your bets are hedged either way. It doesn't matter if they're found, it's just a media fight at that point, and the media will always air your exasperated dismissal of any evidence of what you were actually doing.
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I don't think Bernie gets ratio'd very often https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1099380342018912257
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Oh no Bernie, how dare you say the Venezuelan tinpot dictator is anything but the beacon of human rights and democracy
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Oh no, Bernie, you must say that the Venezuelan government should INCREASE the number of killed protesters to be good!!!
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olives black posted:It's actually here and then here Thanks Friend!
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How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you.
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steinrokkan posted:How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you. i don't know, friend. what level is believing foreign aid isn't weapons for rebels, a thing that has happened countless times throughout us aid's existence
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steinrokkan posted:How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you. I imagine its about how loving stupid you are. Also lol at being a mouthpiece for US facing regime change in TYOOL 2019 and calling someone else a bootlicker.
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Saying nothing at all is better than saying "Maduro should let the CIA infiltrators carrying arms and aid to his usurpers into his country"
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steinrokkan posted:How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you. lmfao
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This is in the context of America blatantly trying to instigate a coup against a government they don't like for reasons that have nothing to do with humanitarianism. The US humanitarian aid is at best a worthless PR stunt that does next to nothing for Venezuela but legitimizes the US's position, at worst is running arms to the opposition and further harming Venezuela's citizens. Tell us your opinions on Saddam and how necessary the Iraq War was next.
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idk about you all but personally I love to let elliot abrams ship shitloads of extremely humanitarian guns
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It's hard to disagree with the tweet as it's written (prioritize people's needs, allow aid, don't gently caress up protesters), but due to the context of bogus aid, an unelected dude who declared himself president as a stand-in for "protesters", etc. it's natural to have strong reservations.
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2DCAT posted:after he was elected, there are a couple of bars in burlington that bernie would go to and just hang and chill and shoot the poo poo. unlike most elected officials, he's actually a good and normal human being. I ran into him under similar circumstances to this back I was living in Burlington back around the turn of the millennium. Just had walked into a restaurant off of Church St. and bam, there's Bernie and Levi having dinner.
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The situation in Venezuela is more nuanced than that, but Bernie saying that the us should gently caress off and let Venezuela and the rest of LatAm try to find a negotiable solution is what he should be saying.
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the tweet also implies that maduro violently suppresses protests, which lol https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1091805966629244929
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:The situation in Venezuela is more nuanced than that, but Bernie saying that the us should gently caress off and let Venezuela and the rest of LatAm try to find a negotiable solution is what he should be saying. The thing is he has been saying this as recently as last week. Really this is the time to point out that Abrams and his ilk have used humanitarian aid as a smokescreen to arm brutal murderous right wing militias in Latin America time and time again. That he's not doing that - and generally being as vocally anti-imperialist as he used to be - is flat out disappointing.
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lmao 12% would vote for kamala kop
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Dante80 posted:Was the humanitarian aid in the border coming from the US government? I didn't know that (haven't really paid attention to this, I should have). Here's a decent overview of what's going on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii5MlQgGXyk
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steinrokkan posted:How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you. shut the gently caress up
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lol @ assuming the US's intentions are noble at all for any reason, but especially since the people put in charge of this project were either architects of Iran Contra or Iraq 2.0
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Epic High Five posted:lol @ assuming the US's intentions are noble at all for any reason
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steinrokkan posted:How loving stupid do you have to be to think that not sucking Maduro's cock = calling for war. Like what level of bootlicking, cowardly moron does it make you. it’s feeding into the current aura and narrative of US intervention in Venezuela. i hate to say it but you are the loving moron here trust in the Trump administration and Elliot Abram’s good intentions. that’s what you’re buying into. you stupid loving idiot
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no strings attached humanitarian intervention from America in 2019 What the gently caress is wrong with you
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Chillgamesh posted:Saying nothing at all is better than saying "Maduro should let the CIA infiltrators carrying arms and aid to his usurpers into his country" the alternative, that Bernie really thinks starving people should be fed is unthinkable
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THS posted:it’s feeding into the current aura and narrative of US intervention in Venezuela. i hate to say it but you are the loving moron here I think that recognizing that "Hey I can make Maduro look lovely by feeding Venezuelans" is well within Trump's wheelhouse.
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