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What exactly is the pool on this exchange, anyway? Is it just non-limited 4-stars?
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Worldwalker_Pure posted:What exactly is the pool on this exchange, anyway? Is it just non-limited 4-stars? Literally, yes. Also the last merlin rate up ever on both servers. https://fategrandorder.fandom.com/wiki/10M_Downloads_Campaign#SR%20Servant
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Feb 23, 2019 22:05
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Tae posted:Literally, yes. Also the last merlin rate up ever on both servers. Oh that's a tough choice. I want Salter because Salter is great, but Gorgon is an Avenger and I don't have any of those.
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Feb 23, 2019 22:21
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The merlin gacha also has salter/lalter as the 4* rateup, so I'd do any rolls you might want before picking.
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Feb 23, 2019 22:24
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Tae posted:Literally, yes. Also the last merlin rate up ever on both servers. Oh finally i can get a banana. ...or maybe Gozen because why not go all in on the animal ears i guess. Today i looked ahead at Abigail and i'm distressed to learn that she's an SSR which means i won't get her (my last 5* was TamaShark) 
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Feb 23, 2019 22:52
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Hmm. Honestly, looking at the list, it's like...do I use this to fill a gap in my ability to make teams, or do I get Nitocris?
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Feb 23, 2019 23:25
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Worldwalker_Pure posted:Hmm. Honestly, looking at the list, it's like...do I use this to fill a gap in my ability to make teams, or do I get Nitocris? 7 months is a long time, we have a (worst) guaranteed SSR anniversary by then.
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Feb 23, 2019 23:33
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I decided to single pull on both singularity banners, after a ten roll on Camelot last night got me gently caress all. I lucked into Lancertoria. She will sadly need to wait until I've finished leveling Karna, but now I have three Lancers with self NP charge, so grinding will be a lot easier in the future. I always hated trying to build NP with three Q/Q/A/B/B decks, now I won't have to ever again!
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Feb 23, 2019 23:59
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Artoria has very nice quicks so getting np and stars isn't so bad, or at least it doesn't feel bad.
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Feb 24, 2019 00:03
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Worldwalker_Pure posted:Hmm. Honestly, looking at the list, it's like...do I use this to fill a gap in my ability to make teams, or do I get Nitocris? nitocris is loving amazing fwiw
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Feb 24, 2019 00:03
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 7-turn Challenge Quest Run Beach Queen >>> Burger Queen
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Feb 24, 2019 00:25
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Oh Snapple! posted:Yeah having a ST arts saber is super, super tempting and dead honest the only reason I'm considering him. That said, like a month after we get this ticket Yagyu comes out. Having used both I like Saberlot more than Yagyu. Yagyu can get good arts crits for a turn, but Lancelot is just always critting and can make his own stars on top of it.
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Feb 24, 2019 01:51
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Yagyuu's real value isn't his damage output, which is fine in and of itself, but it's that he's Saber Asterios in terms of damage debuff.
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Feb 24, 2019 02:03
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they have different uses, saberlot is much better for general use since he's extremely straightforward and has three turns of sustained crit monster, but doesn't offer anything but raw damage for harder bosses, which isn't bad by any means but he can't work around enemy gimmicks at all without help yagyu is a boss/CQ fiend, able to inflict a 50% 1-turn ATK debuff with a skill and a 20-60% 3-turn ATK debuff on his NP, meaning he can almost entirely neuter a boss's damage output by himself, on top of having an evade of his own in case things turn south or you have trouble keeping his ATK debuffs up for whatever reason. he requires more team support than saberlot does to shine in, but does more for the team in extended fights, which more and more fights are as the game progresses in short, saberlot's easier to use but if you're willing to build a team around him, yagyu has better potential imo
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Feb 24, 2019 02:05
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Refined sitting old man or Sir Lance's-a-lot-of-married women? You decide!
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yagyu being more of a team player, in addition to his weird mana burst, are definitely what draw me to him over saberlot's self-sufficient loop of selfish skills. saberlot does free you up to run fewer/no 2030s on supports, which is a definite benefit though.
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Feb 24, 2019 02:10
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i choose grandma birb, the blade of chaotic evil's bane
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Feb 24, 2019 02:11
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So, since Bedivere was initially unworthy of being a Heroic Spirit, but his deeds in Camelot and faithfully carrying the sword for over a thousand years proved him worthy of becoming one, can't Jalter maybe also make it into the Throne, even though she was initially an impossible existence that should never have been because there was no Jeanne anywhere in the multiverse that resented and hated the people at her death, through her actions as an Avenger Servant working to save humanity when summoned by Chaldea?
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Gologle posted:So, since Bedivere was initially unworthy of being a Heroic Spirit, but his deeds in Camelot and faithfully carrying the sword for over a thousand years proved him worthy of becoming one, can't Jalter maybe also make it into the Throne, even though she was initially an impossible existence that should never have been because there was no Jeanne anywhere in the multiverse that resented and hated the people at her death, through her actions as an Avenger Servant working to save humanity when summoned by Chaldea? I think that all the Servants go into the Throne, it's just going to be pretty much impossible for anyone to get a catalyst in order to summer any of the weirder ones in any non-FGO timeline. Piell fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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Feb 24, 2019 05:03
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Gologle posted:So, since Bedivere was initially unworthy of being a Heroic Spirit, but his deeds in Camelot and faithfully carrying the sword for over a thousand years proved him worthy of becoming one, can't Jalter maybe also make it into the Throne, even though she was initially an impossible existence that should never have been because there was no Jeanne anywhere in the multiverse that resented and hated the people at her death, through her actions as an Avenger Servant working to save humanity when summoned by Chaldea? Worthiness has been vastly overstated since the idea of Nursery Rhymes has been allowed to inhabit the Throne.
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Feb 24, 2019 05:15
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Hypocrisy posted:Worthiness has been vastly overstated since the idea of Nursery Rhymes has been allowed to inhabit the Throne. Stories shape reality. 
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Feb 24, 2019 05:19
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It's 2019 and people are still questioning if X person can be a servant when we have multiple book nerds and a literal book be heroic spirits
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Feb 24, 2019 05:22
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423 turns, huh
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Tae posted:It's 2019 and people are still questioning if X person can be a servant when we have multiple book nerds and a literal book be heroic spirits I think it's like Piell said - How the hell would you summon Jalter? She never existed, so you can't go steal her sword out of a museum or something for a catalyst. It would require some plot device level bullshit, like trying to summon normal Jeanne, but making sure that your calendar says Opposite Day on it.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:01
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Does summoning always require a real artifact from the servant in history? I don’t remember rin or shirou needing that for their summonings.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:03
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UchihaHirou posted:
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Billzasilver posted:Does summoning always require a real artifact from the servant in history? I don’t remember rin or shirou needing that for their summonings. Rin had her pendant, which saved Emiya's life, and Shirou had Avalon. e: Although I don't think a catalyst is strictly necessary. Just makes it easier to know what you're getting out of the deal.
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Billzasilver posted:Does summoning always require a real artifact from the servant in history? I don’t remember rin or shirou needing that for their summonings. Rin's pendant is a cataylst for the future that Archer came from. Shirou is literally the catalyst, in Avalon.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:07
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Billzasilver posted:Does summoning always require a real artifact from the servant in history? I don’t remember rin or shirou needing that for their summonings. They didn't need them because they didn't realize they already had them
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Feb 24, 2019 06:09
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Tae posted:Rin's pendant is a cataylst for the future that Archer came from. 
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Feb 24, 2019 06:12
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It's actually quite simple: Shirou is bad at staying alive on his own, so he needs help. First, Kiritsugu shoved Avalon into him so he wouldn't die as a kid. Avalon is Excalibur's scabbard, so it's a valid catalyst for Saber. Then, Rin saves his rear end when he gets Gae Bolg'd because he's a dumbass. This still happens to EMIYA, so the pendant is a catalyst for him.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:15
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Without a proper artifact as a catalyst it seems like the summoning system defaults to a servant suitable to the master's temperament and personality.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:16
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Ryuunosuke summoned Caster Giles without catalyst and Medusa also allowed herself to be summoned without catalyst by Sakura, becouse Sakura was in the same situation Medusa once was and Medusa wanted to help, just out the top of my head, so you definitely can summon Servants without using a catalyst.
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Lt. Lizard posted:Ryuunosuke summoned Caster Giles without catalyst and Medusa also allowed herself to be summoned without catalyst by Sakura, becouse Sakura was in the same situation Medusa once was and Medusa wanted to help., just out the top of my head, so you definitely can summon Servants without using a catalyst. I thought he got Gilles because of that tied up kid.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:23
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Tired Moritz posted:I thought he got Gilles because of that tied up kid. The tied up kid died after the summoning.
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Feb 24, 2019 06:27
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Lt. Lizard posted:Ryuunosuke summoned Caster Giles without catalyst and Medusa also allowed herself to be summoned without catalyst by Sakura, becouse Sakura was in the same situation Medusa once was and Medusa wanted to help., just out the top of my head, so you definitely can summon Servants without using a catalyst. quote:Catalyst list: The only apparent edge case out of SN/Z is just Gilles
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Compendium posted:The tied up kid died after the summoning. Right, but Ryuunosuke had been terrorizing him up to that point. I thought that was the catalyst.
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my understanding was that a catalyst just narrows the pool you're summoning from relative to how specific whatever thing you're using is, i suppose. like kairi's chunk of the round table pulls mordred while avalon pulls artoria. i also feel like the summoning system could give less than a gently caress so maybe avalon could still pull you someone like bedivere who just happened to carry the sword/be tied to artoria etc ultimately it's all malleable lore so who cares
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