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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:You're talking in circles. The source I linked to shows that the new "lite" twitter site accessed from mobile browsers is now called the Twitter Web App, which is distinctly different from Twitter Web Client. No I'm not. I am saying there is a legitimate and easy to use reason why a post on a phone will show up as a browser. It doesn't take a special download, advanced skills or root access. It takes 1 click. You, believe its more likely part of a conspiracy involving computers at an embassy.
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exploded mummy posted:orrrrrr they used the desktop site on a cheapass phone that didn't automatically load the mobile version thanks, i was pretty sure caps lock broken was being super gross
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Acebuckeye13 posted:I do it all the time Literally the only time I've personally used it was just this past half hour, trying to see how it affected tweets. And besides, he suggested that MOST android users use it, and I'd wager that the most people on this site fall into more of a power-user category than the general population.
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Its not too crazy to expect someone who tweets for a living to know a few tips and tricks to post on a random phone.
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Feb 24, 2019 04:16
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what are the thread's thoughts on this? https://twitter.com/ciccmaher/status/1099419098688208896
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This is the least interesting thing you fucks could be discussing right now.
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brugroffil posted:what are the thread's thoughts on this? The ones who have access to tear gas grenades. Which burn really loving hot. So yeah, the soldiers. You fucktard. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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zapplez posted:Its not too crazy to expect someone who tweets for a living to know a few tips and tricks to post on a random phone. Maybe it isn't and I'm just underestimating this because of my personal experience (or lack of), but also now that I've read the phrase "someone who tweets for a living" I'm really sad and I'm gonna leave this thread.
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zapplez posted:No I'm not. I am saying there is a legitimate and easy to use reason why a post on a phone will show up as a browser. It doesn't take a special download, advanced skills or root access. It takes 1 click. It's an improbable chain of events that is unlikely to happen. Since you people made me go and check, I tested it with mobile chrome and sent a tweet with the mobile page, requested the desktop site and sent another tweet. Both of them appeared as "Twitter Web App." Again, which is the bigger conspiracy: That someone who sent a tweet that twitter identified as coming from a desktop web client from a desktop, or that the journalist was using an old, severely misconfigured android device that slipped through the cracks and got mistagged as coming from the desktop? Not paying attention to the source tags happens all the time, to even more organized media efforts
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What is the disposition of the Lima Group toward today's events?
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Feb 24, 2019 04:22
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Reuters reporter has video of a colectivo thug firing - what appear to be - live rounds at protesters: https://twitter.com/Liamaramos/status/1099484536193327104
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brugroffil posted:what are the thread's thoughts on this? A journalist at the scene said that the aid ignited from munitions fired at it by the National Guard (he said "tear gas"). George is being very cynical. You can easily argue the other way and say, "Who's more likely to burn the trucks: the people being ordered to stop the trucks from entering Venezuela at all costs, or the people risking their lives to make sure the trucks enter Venezuela?"
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Chuck Boone posted:I was hoping to take the rest of the night off, but I saw these tweets and ran back here: You're a fool if you think this wasn't the plan from the beginning.
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Private Witt posted:colectivo thug I like how the mask is slipping and people are already feeling safe in using racist codewords to describe maduro's poc supporters.
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brugroffil posted:what are the thread's thoughts on this? Probably not the starving people who needed the aid?
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brugroffil posted:I think I'm pretty much where noted tankie Sen. Chris Murphy is at: "may not require a war declaration" well what does, we haven't needed to declare war for almost eighty years
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Chuck Boone posted:A journalist at the scene said that the aid ignited from munitions fired at it by the National Guard (he said "tear gas"). i think he's rightfully being very cynical. you have an aid convoy being pushed by a nation which is dying to start a war and an opposition government that is working hand in hand with said government.
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edit, adding on this end of the post for reasons: i could very easily buy "the ignited trucks were the result of tear gas munitions but not necessarily intentional arson"Discendo Vox posted:What is the disposition of the Lima Group toward today's events? i don't see any responses yet (but again, english language, so it's very possible there's stuff in spanish that hasn't hit the angloweb yet) but their previous position was "maduro bad, military intervention bad" Private Witt posted:Reuters reporter has video of a colectivo thug firing - what appear to be - live rounds at protesters: i think you mean a noble defender of the revolution CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:I like how the mask is slipping and people are already feeling safe in using racist codewords to describe maduro's poc supporters.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:
It's amusing to see what liberals are willing to say about nonwhite people overseas, because you know that's how they feel about those people at home.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:It's amusing to see what liberals are willing to say about nonwhite people overseas, because you know that's how they feel about those people at home. frankly i'm not sure how you can tell he's a poc (or how i can tell he's a he, which i can't) guess your eyes, and the beady racist eyes of private witt, are better than mine
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GreyjoyBastard posted:frankly i'm not sure how you can tell he's a poc ‘Thugs’ is a race-code word that fuels anti-Black racism
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ok, so are we taking odds on whether guaido will keep his 30 day election promise once his buddy trump's military intervention kills a ton of venezuelans and guaido is installed as the US' puppet?
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Condiv posted:i think he's rightfully being very cynical. you have an aid convoy being pushed by a nation which is dying to start a war and an opposition government that is working hand in hand with said government. also the brain behind it is elliot abrams, a man who has disguised weapons as humanitarian aid and used them to commit horrific genocide in the past it is, in fact, what he is most known for e: bolton, too is legendary for his constant and unrelenting warmongering those two just want to kill as many non-whites as possible, as brutally as possible. the oil is just a side-benefit to them Yinlock fucked around with this message at 04:38 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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Condiv posted:ok, so are we taking odds on whether guaido will keep his 30 day election promise once his buddy trump's military intervention kills a ton of venezuelans and guaido is installed as the US' puppet? that already got dumpstered and pushed to 7 (or maybe it was several?) months, like at least 3 weeks ago iirc Homeless Friend fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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Homeless Friend posted:that already got dumpstered and pushed to 7 months, like at least 3 weeks ago iirc the opposition cannot* hold an election without the assent and involvement of the CNE anyway, and that's not an option until the PSUV either buckles or is (temporarily?) pushed aside * - with the possible exception of that one referendum, i dunno how that worked on the plus side, we've established in this thread that in the event of an election, arresting the entirety of the PSUV leadership and disqualifying them from the election is constitutionally legitimate
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GreyjoyBastard posted:the opposition cannot* hold an election without the assent and involvement of the CNE anyway, and that's not an option until the PSUV either buckles or is (temporarily?) pushed aside DIdn't stop them from declaring their own president and carrying on affairs of state like Maduro didn't exist. Funny how they're negotiating the entry of US troops, talking to Mike Pence, and generally governing like they were the real deal, except when it comes to holding an election. Then they shrug their shoulders and say the law is the law, welp!
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Homeless Friend posted:that already got dumpstered and pushed to 7 (or maybe it was several?) months, like at least 3 weeks ago iirc i thought there were people still banking on guaido holding elections 30 days after he takes power
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:DIdn't stop them from declaring their own president and carrying on affairs of state like Maduro didn't exist. Funny how they're negotiating the entry of US troops, talking to Mike Pence, and generally governing like they were the real deal, except when it comes to holding an election. Then they shrug their shoulders and say the law is the law, welp! yep, toss it on the constitutional crisis pile; they can't realistically hold elections without either creating an entirely functional parallel electoral process (infeasible, but possible, I guess) or using the, you know, existing legitimate one (which Guaido was hoping for but the military went lol nope), so they are now in violation of the "shall" clause they've put together a committee to maybe work on the first option, and plan for the second option  not that you actually care about constitutional crises in Venezuela except as a bludgeon for people you disagree with, but some people in this thread might Condiv posted:i thought there were people still banking on guaido holding elections 30 days after he takes power technically, as CLB triumphantly points out, it's been 30 days since the declaration Regarding your specific hypothetical: if the US invades, Everything Is hosed and there are a million excuses to delay elections (or for anti-Guaido posters to call them unfair if held  ), many of them genuinely sensible... if avoidable through the simple expedient of not invading.I'm still banking on the outcome inherently involving new elections - Maduro steps down, or Maduro flees to Russia with $200m in gold and jewels, or Maduro grudgingly calls new elections, something in that vein. because all the alternatives mean Everything Is hosed, if maybe less so than a US invasion Still, I think it's fairly likely that even in the hosed scenarios, we see elections. One really important thing is that the total breakdown of Venezuela electoral politics is less than five years old. This isn't a multi-decade dictatorial shitshow, just a multi-year one. It's still totally possible to get that element of the country back on track. I mean, the whole inciting incident for the establishment of an illegitimate one-party state was the PSUV holding free and fair elections because they thought they would win handily, and being super duper wrong. Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I'm still banking on the outcome inherently involving new elections - Maduro steps down, or Maduro flees to Russia with $200m in gold and jewels, or Maduro grudgingly calls new elections, something in that vein. because all the alternatives mean Everything Is hosed, if maybe less so than a US invasion See this is too much for me, liberals are busying painting Maduro as a corrupt bus driver with a ton of loot socked away. If he's as corrupt and self serving as you make him out to be, why hasn't he fled the country already with his ill gotten gains? What if Maduro actually loves his country, and despite his negligible formal education and mistakes made along the way- is doing the best he can with literally every western country in the world (except Italy for some reason) united against him?
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That's pretty common, the Red Cross/Crescent enjoys a weird super-IP pseudo-trademark right in functionally all jurisdictions and they enforce it like mad (famously they somehow reverse-superseded Johnson & Johnson's logo). It's a thorny problem because people working as medics in conflict areas will usually use the red cross emblem as a shorthand for "I'm not armed and trying to save lives, don't loving kill me".
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:What if Maduro actually loves his country, and despite his negligible formal education and mistakes made along the way- is doing the best he can with literally every western country in the world (except Italy for some reason) united against him? He's got a funny way of showing it.
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:See this is too much for me, liberals are busying painting Maduro as a corrupt bus driver with a ton of loot socked away. If he's as corrupt and self serving as you make him out to be, why hasn't he fled the country already with his ill gotten gains? What if Maduro actually loves his country, and despite his negligible formal education and mistakes made along the way- is doing the best he can with literally every western country in the world (except Italy for some reason) united against him? 1) i'm not a liberal  2) i believe we had a somewhat interesting discussion on just that topic a bit ago; it might have been in the Middle East thread, but I think it started with Maduro the upshot being that it actually would be pretty cool to have more Ben Alis who know when to get when the getting's good, but it turns out there are a lot of dictators who  and if Mohammed bin Salman gets a few tens of billions of dollars for his devoted and selfless service, is that so wrong? and Abdel el-Sisi never even wanted power, he just could not stand by any longer and watch the terrorists destroy his beautiful countrysometimes the dictators who think they can pull it off in the face of alarming odds are even correct - I don't think Maduro will be in this category
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GreyjoyBastard posted:it's also worth noting that when I'm talking kleptocrats and the need for fundamental change in PSUV/Venezuelan leadership, I get lazy and say 'Maduro' - him stepping down and being replaced with Cabello or El-Aissami would probably not be the sort of change that would save the party and the country in this, we agree it would be funny as all hell watching the scramble for the new way to proclaim them marxohitlerstalin. welcome to the reverse of Guaido's side of the story- there is the answer the US will accept, and the answers that will result in your disappearance (mysterious or public depending on how we're feeling that day-Pompeo likes public, Abrams likes mysterious) in favor of someone who will give the answer we're looking for. good times ahead, gang!
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Down south on the Brazil border. One native tribe seem to be in open conflict with the police/army. Indigenous Pemon on Venezuela's border with Brazil vow to let aid in https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PY0MO?__twitter_impression=true There was fighting at the local airport. https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1099336503120068609 The border https://twitter.com/LuisPin23257352/status/1099437489956233216 A military convoy was forced to stop and fighting broke out. https://twitter.com/FernandoLeanme/status/1098966240633253889 Police seem more trigger happy than up north. https://twitter.com/Guchadura/status/1099452868577382400 If this video is to be believed they are sending a good number more men to deal with the issue. https://twitter.com/alexferfa/status/1099512506928775168 Claims of dead seem to range between 2 to 30 (From about a Month ago) https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1085618368458182656 edit: https://twitter.com/GEDV86/status/1099445755834744832 site is reporting on tape where they talk about releasing and arming prisoners to go murder the natives As far as this guy is concerned the civil war is on and its time to start winning it. RaffyTaffy fucked around with this message at 06:53 on Feb 24, 2019 |
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RaffyTaffy posted:Down south on the Brazil border. One native tribe seem to be in open conflict with the police/army.  hoping this doesn't go horribly for the pemon
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They can’t hold elections until the PSUV are deemed terrorists for denying aid when 70% of their economy and all potential financing an economic solution are denied by sanctions. They can then be killed and democracy can be resorted so Trump can safely vacation and talk about how America is taking the oil to win re-election.
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So this thread is moving fast and people are talking about dictatorship. Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore was a bad rear end who could not be bought by the US and refuses their bribery. He also cares for infrastructure development and stamping out corruption. Authoritarians and most leaders can only dream if they are as capable as uncle Harry. One key factor for Venezuelan’s recovery : a system of accountability and transparency
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