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starkebn posted:Ars Magica that's the one I was thinking of!
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Is the Starfinder corebook worth picking up in the Humble Bundle?
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Feb 25, 2019 07:30
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super sweet best pal posted:Is the Starfinder corebook worth picking up in the Humble Bundle? no
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Feb 25, 2019 07:35
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super sweet best pal posted:Is the Starfinder corebook worth picking up in the Humble Bundle? Considering it's only like 20 bucks for everything in that bundle, I'd say it's worth it if you have any interest in Pathfinder/Starfinder at all
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Feb 25, 2019 07:42
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Not interested in the Pathfinder portion, except maybe the campaign modules, which I assume could be converted to other games with a bit of work. what I want is a decent modern sci-fi system.
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Feb 25, 2019 07:57
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Starfinder is absolutely not that so I would give the bundle a pass.
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Feb 25, 2019 08:03
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even pathfinder fans seem pretty meh on starfinder
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Feb 25, 2019 08:05
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Pathfinder can be played with just the $1 bundle, since it has both the Core Rulebook and the Bestiary, and even the first two parts of an adventure module Starfinder is incomplete even with the full bundle: it doesn't have a module to go with it, and it doesn't have the Alien Archive/bestiary I would recommend Fragged Empire for a sci-fi game.
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Feb 25, 2019 08:13
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super sweet best pal posted:Not interested in the Pathfinder portion, except maybe the campaign modules, which I assume could be converted to other games with a bit of work. what I want is a decent modern sci-fi system. Starfinder isn't really Sci-Fi, honestly, it's literally just pathfinder in space. If you want Sci-Fi go with Fragged Empire imo
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Feb 25, 2019 08:50
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S.J. posted:Starfinder isn't really Sci-Fi, honestly, it's literally just pathfinder in space. If you want Sci-Fi go with Fragged Empire imo Not just pathfinder in space, but pathfinder in space with even worse rules.
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Feb 25, 2019 08:56
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gradenko_2000 posted:Pathfinder can be played with just the $1 bundle, since it has both the Core Rulebook and the Bestiary, and even the first two parts of an adventure module Also the Beginner Box which is really good despite being Pathfinder
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Feb 25, 2019 09:08
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Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger.
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Feb 25, 2019 09:33
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. the new star wars games are very popular. I didn't really like them but I'm in the minority on that, most people seem to like it
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Feb 25, 2019 10:32
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I haven't had a chance to play/run it yet but the new Alternity seems to be ok.
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Feb 25, 2019 10:45
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. Well here's a couple recommendations; Mekton Zeta(has some issues and is a little clunky due to it's age, but is still quite usable) Battle Century G Gamma World 7e
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Feb 25, 2019 10:55
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8one6 posted:I haven't had a chance to play/run it yet but the new Alternity seems to be ok. Genesys is a bad system and I really would not recommend it to anyone. It's an especially bad system for Star Wars. It's pretty hard to answer the wider question since there aren't a ton of sci-fi games if you're looking for "pure" sci-fi instead of cyberpunk or mechs. Scum & Villainy is a decent hack of Blades in the Dark, if you want to play Firefly/Serenity. Eclipse Phase will probably be good once 2e hits. It has a cool setting but the 1e mechanics are not good. I liked Tachyon Squadron, a Fate Core game where you play the space International Brigades flying space fighters against space Nazis. It has good dogfighting rules. There's also Ashen Stars, a Gumshoe game where you're adventuring mercenary space cops investigating space crimes.
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Feb 25, 2019 12:14
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. I think it was stated before, but true sci-fi tends to focus on advancements rather than just trappings, and that's seldom the focus of RPG writers. I don't have any systems to add that weren't just stated a post or two above me, but I think freeform or bespoke games are going to get you the closest to actual sci-fi stories. If you want space-ships/mecha than yeah, Fragged Empire, Battle Century G and Lancer seem like the best.
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Feb 25, 2019 12:20
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. If you like improv and promoting the idea that something interesting happens every roll, then Star Wars is really good as a narrative style game. Its not rules light but I've found its a really good bridge for narrative and crunchy rpg. The dice are pretty great in general and the force mechanics are pretty great and all about tying narrative and mechanics in an amazing way.
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Feb 25, 2019 13:22
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kingcom posted:If you like improv and promoting the idea that something interesting happens every roll, then Star Wars is really good as a narrative style game. Its not rules light but I've found its a really good bridge for narrative and crunchy rpg. The dice are pretty great in general and the force mechanics are pretty great and all about tying narrative and mechanics in an amazing way. I'll second this. The dice look funky but you'll learn how they work quickly.
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Feb 25, 2019 13:31
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. Stars Without Number Revised is very good, imo. The basic rules are free, but if you pick up the deluxe edition it adds some cool poo poo like transhuman characters/campaigns, full AIs and mechs.
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Feb 25, 2019 14:26
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I play Starfinder with friends, but yeah there are bad rules. Last night I noticed a feat that says an opponent targeted by it becomes immune to its effects for 24 hours. RAW, the timing means the feat will never ever work. I don't think anyone proof-read this.
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Feb 25, 2019 15:05
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. For various wildly varying flavors of sci-fi and game: Scum and Villainy, Ashen Stars , Legacy: Life Among the Ruins 2e, Technoir, and Mindjammer
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Feb 25, 2019 15:19
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moths posted:Last night I noticed a feat that says an opponent targeted by it becomes immune to its effects for 24 hours. RAW, the timing means the feat will never ever work. I don't think anyone proof-read this. It was clearly rushed out for a Gencon release, given the surprisingly short time they had for development and the myriad basic design errors that made it to publication.
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Feb 25, 2019 16:09
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Plutonis posted:I see that Lords of Chaos is out, has anyone done a F&F of Varg's masterpiece of race realist TRPGs, MYFAROG? M-M-M-Myyyy farogaaa
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Feb 25, 2019 16:12
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I’m surprised Alternity (2017) slipped under my radar. The TSR version has been my white whale in that I only got to run the game once but still grabbed a bunch of the books once they hit the secondary market. Has anyone had a chance to read or play the revised one? As much as it’s nostalgic for me, I have no desire to actually run the original game these days.
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Feb 25, 2019 17:14
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. I'd recommend Stars Without Numbers: Revised or Scum and Villainy for most use cases. SWN does a pretty good job of giving you a kind of crunchy toolset for when you want specific sorts of gear or ships to have a lot of mechanical weight, while S&V is pretty great for a more breezy take on space opera. For mechs, I like Lancer.
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Plutonis posted:I see that Lords of Chaos is out, has anyone done a F&F of Varg's masterpiece of race realist TRPGs, MYFAROG? Not yet, and hopefully they won't. Vikernes is a murderous psychopath Nazi and would-be terrorist, and gawking at his shoddy fantasy RPG is honestly more attention than he deserves. But I can mini-F&F it for you right here and now, if you want: MYFAROG: Mythic Fantasy Roleplaying Game MYFAROG is a fantasy roleplaying game by the sociopathic murderer, would be terrorist bomber, and outright Nazi Christian 'Varg' Vikernes. It's a bad game. The game seems to mostly be about playing not-vikings to who kill swarthy stand-ins for Jews, Christians, and Muslims, and black dark-skinned people in general. In short, it's basically a vehicle for Vikernes' genocidal fantasies, you know, when he's not stockpiling guns to commit actual genocide. It's written entirely in Papyrus. There's a lot to say about the fact that it's author is a church-burning sociopathic murderer who's stopped from committing acts of terrorism twice in two separate countries, but if you strip away all that you're left with a virulently racist and uncreative game, and if you strip away all that you're left with Baby's First D&D Heartbreaker. There. One paragraph, written in the time it took me to get through a can of soda. It doesn't deserve more.
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super sweet best pal posted:Is the Starfinder corebook worth picking up in the Humble Bundle? It's not good, but if you've got money to burn and it's only $20 then I guess so?  The system is weird and the setting is super janky. It can't decide if it wants to be fantasy in space, Shadowrun in space, or Star Wars with fantasy races. It ends up doing none of those things well. The F.A.T.A.L. and Friends review of it probably covers it best.https://projects.inklesspen.com/fatal-and-friends/alien-rope-burn/starfinder-core-rulebook/
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Feb 25, 2019 22:06
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Tricky posted:I'd recommend Stars Without Numbers: Revised or Scum and Villainy for most use cases. SWN does a pretty good job of giving you a kind of crunchy toolset for when you want specific sorts of gear or ships to have a lot of mechanical weight, while S&V is pretty great for a more breezy take on space opera. For mechs, I like Lancer. I'll second Stars Without Number. It's an old-school RPG, but the rules are simple and the setting is open enough that you can use it to do nearly anything.
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LatwPIAT posted:Not yet, and hopefully they won't. Vikernes is a murderous psychopath Nazi and would-be terrorist, and gawking at his shoddy fantasy RPG is honestly more attention than he deserves. Are you telling me if mussolini wrote a splatbook you wouldnt want it reviewed because hes a bad guy? Thats specifically why I want it reviewed. I dont want people who quote 'separate artist from the art' to think anything this guy makes is good.
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Feb 25, 2019 22:40
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Bogus Adventure posted:It's not good, but if you've got money to burn and it's only $20 then I guess so? Is there a game that does any of these three things well at all? Because if there is, I feel like there's a lot of goofy fun to be had.
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Feb 25, 2019 22:40
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:Are you telling me if mussolini wrote a splatbook you wouldnt want it reviewed because hes a bad guy? Thats specifically why I want it reviewed. I dont want people who quote 'separate artist from the art' to think anything this guy makes is good. There's not any reason to review an incitement to racial hatred, full stop.
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Feb 25, 2019 22:46
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cptn_dr posted:Is there a game that does any of these three things well at all? Because if there is, I feel like there's a lot of goofy fun to be had. 4e manual of the planes is fantasy in space. Fragged Empire or Scum and villainy can be used for Shadowrun in space.
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potatocubed posted:Tangential note: I know Fragged Empire is good for crunchy scifi games, but what other good scifi games are out there? It's not something I'm super-interested in so most of it passes me by, but I feel I should have more than one game to recommend people that isn't Starfinger. SF's one of those broad fields where I don't think 'generic' SF games will ever be that great. Mongoose Traveller is still completely fine and playable for dirtbag trading engineer space opera where you can fix your spaceship with a wrench. Uncharted Worlds is a PBTA SF game that I've played a few times and enjoyed. Haven't run it yet so I'm not sure how the GM-side stuff is. The feel is similar to Traveller. Eclipse Phase's setting and hooks and adventures are good enough that the system being pretty bad didn't stand in my way much. This is where you want to go if you want transhumanist SF rather than wrenches.
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Plutonis posted:I see that Lords of Chaos is out, has anyone done a F&F of Varg's masterpiece of race realist TRPGs, MYFAROG? A Heavy Metal magazine did a review. It's 1st Edition D&D with a lot of racism. http://www.metalsucks.net/2015/08/21/advanced-discrimination-dragons-critical-look-varg-vikernes-myfarog-rpg/
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Feb 25, 2019 23:01
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LongDarkNight posted:A Heavy Metal magazine did a review. It's 1st Edition D&D with a lot of racism. Yeah I saw that one and a friend of mine pirated one of the modern day setting that is literally RaHoWa 2nd edition and send some of the pages to me and I remember cackling at it like a maniac
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Another good sci-fi game would be Mothership
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LatwPIAT posted:Vikernes is a ... would-be terrorist
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Feb 26, 2019 00:49
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LongDarkNight posted:A Heavy Metal magazine did a review. It's 1st Edition D&D with a lot of racism. Of course the fantasy world is named Thule. Dawgstar fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Feb 26, 2019 |
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cptn_dr posted:Is there a game that does any of these three things well at all? Because if there is, I feel like there's a lot of goofy fun to be had. I dunno? Agree on all counts that it would own bones, and I can imagine Fate Accelerated would make it possible. I remember running a game for a group of my weeb friends, and I had them play a super-sentai group granted powers by Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi. They were a rag-tag group of kids, teens, a hobo, and a talking cat. They managed to to pull up a subway and crash it into the villain they were fighting. Good times.
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